Post by iris89 on Jun 27, 2007 12:25:45 GMT -5
Muslim Abuse of Genuine Christians:
Members of Islam tell lies about genuine followers of Christ and accuse Christ ministry and gospel of being one of hate - ALL OUTRIGHT LIES. Something should be done about this - pronto:
Read the facts and take action:
ONE LYING POSTER SAID, about my good genuine Christian wife and myself when I went to her defense - YES TERRIBLE:
"No one is lying about you Iris."
When the truth is this very poster has been lying about my good wife:
[1] She called her a sleeper, AN OUTRIGHT LIE.
[2] She called her a very *friendly* person, AN OUTRIGHT LIE.
[3] She called her a twit, AN OUTRIGHT LIE.
[4] She called her an apostate, AN OUTRIGHT LIE.
[5] She said Almighty God (YHWH) = Allah, AN OUTRIGHT LIE. For details see
[0] Iris89 Tells The Factual Truth - Islam Does Not Like: at,
religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=sunni&thread=1182954261
[6] She said the following "Bible knockoff the Qur'an" is an insult, AN OUTRIGHT LIE as it is the truth,
see the proof,
[0] Book Review Shows Quran A Knockoff of The Bible at,
religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=knockoff&thread=1177951059
[[her lie told at, www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6044 ]
[7] She said "totally away from topic", AN OUTRIGHT LIE, see her comment below,
"This article is about a priest who killed a nun while trying to remove a demon from her.
If it's not your brand of christianity then don't bother about it
It has nothing to do with any holy book or any of the other nonsense you posted that is totally away from the topic" whereas my wife's post was a direct counter to same and dealt with imam's plots for murder showing Islam's religious leaders guilty of same thing as the priest. Now that is not off topic.
[8] She said my wife posted porn, AN OUTRIGHT LIE. First she does not even know the meaning of porn, let's look at what a dictionary and an encyclopedia said,
"PORN, noun: creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire [source - One Look Dictionary, www.onelook.com/?w=porn&ls=a ]"
"Pornography, sometimes shortened to porn or porno, is, in its broadest state, the explicit representation of the human body or sexual activity with the goal of sexual arousal and/or sexual relief. It is similar to erotica, which is the use of sexually-arousing imagery used mainly for artistic purpose. Over the past few decades, an immense industry for the production and consumption of pornography has grown, due to emergence of the VCR, the DVD, and the Internet, as well as the emergence of more tolerant social attitudes.
In general, "erotica" refers to portrayals of sexually arousing material that hold or aspire to artistic or historical merit, whereas "pornography" often connotes the prurient depiction of sexual acts, with little or no artistic value. The line between "erotica" and the term "pornography" (which is frequently considered a pejorative term) is often highly subjective. In practice, pornography can be defined merely as erotica that certain people perceive as "obscene." The definition of what one considers obscene can differ between persons, cultures and eras. This leaves legal actions by those who oppose pornography open to wide interpretation. It also provides lucrative employment for armies of lawyers, on several "sides."
Pornography may use any of a variety of media - printed literature, photos, sculpture, drawing, painting, animation, sound recording, film, video, or video game. However, when sexual acts are performed for a live audience, by definition it is not pornography, as the term applies to the depiction or reproduction of the act, rather than the act itself.[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography ]"
Let's look at what was said, party 1, my good wife, party 2 the liar.
"Party 1 "One women that does not know how to tell the truth and who calls others sleepers, very *friendly* persons, etc. said,"
Party 2 "IF your wife apologized for posting porn then perhaps I would apologize for calling her a sleeper. IF not then only a sleeper would post porn on a religious board so I stand by my opinion.
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=5935&st=15&start=15 ]"
"by party 2, I am not the one lying, why don't you show us where membership requirement for the porn site is to be muslim if you are truthrul? Your sleeper of a wife (if you're really her husband and not her which I doubt) posted a website which has a naked man at the bottom of the page as well as links to other porn material. Perhaps you good christians don't consider nude images as porn but most conservative, religious people do. "
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6011 ]
Now what was posted was from one of their Muslim sites run by Muslim homosexuals who are recognized by BBC, Newsweek, The Middle East Times, etc. not as a porn site but a Muslim homosexual site, contact BBC on GayEgypt org. and they will verify this fact. Can you imagine Muslims charging you with mention of a Muslim site, what an unjust double standard as Muslims are responsible for the site, not any type of Christian. The fact is, my wife is not promoting any pornsight, but simply showing that Muslims are operating a major homosexual site.
"Party 2, even had the nerve to say, 'yOU have failed to deal with why they are doing this since the Qur'an is against homosexuality - you need to explain.'" Now I ask who but Muslims need to explain Muslim actions? This is just ridiculas.
"Party 1, 'you are quick to call attention to some apostate (counterfeit) so called Christian church approving of child sex abuse of which I never questioned the validity as I am a realist, but you have tried to dodge and deny the fact that Muslims are operating a major honosexual site - that is dishonest.'"
[9] She said my wife was rebellious, AN OUTRIGHT LIE. Who better than a women's husband should know the truth?
"Their slanderous post, 'IRIS should be ignored from this point on since she has already admitted that she's just a rebelious ex-muslim who couldn't stomach the laws she was expected to follow.... a poor excuse for turning your back on God if you ask me....[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=5269&st=120&start=120 Page 9]'"
Fact, my wife was never a Muslim as she came from a mixed religious household and never joined either of the false religions of that household, so no way can she be an ex-Muslim when she never was one to begin with.
[10] I, Iris's husband was called a plagiarist, AN OUTRIGHT LIE. Let's first consider what a plagiarist is,
plagiarist = noun: someone who uses another person's words or ideas as if they were his own, [source - One Look Dictionary, www.onelook.com/?w=plagiarist&ls=a ]
Now let's look at the false charge,
"Well at least "he" admits that he's plagarizing "her" work before "he" reposts "her" CP nonsense.
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6008]" but I give full credit and use with permission - that is not plagiarizing - so as usual another lie from Islam.
[11] I, Iris's husband was called a deviant, AN OUTRIGHT LIE, as I have not deviated from the teachings of Christ. Now let's look at the definition of deviant,
"ADJECTIVE: Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society. NOUN: One that differs from a norm, especially a person whose behavior and attitudes differ from accepted social standards.
[source- One Look Dictionary]The American HeritageOne Look Dictionary]
While the Apostles were on earth, there was only one classification of for followers of Christ, but shortly after their departure a great many so called Christians fell away from being genuine (true) followers of Christ and this was foretold to pass at Romans 16:17, " But I beseech you, brethren, to consider those who create divisions and occasions of falling, contrary to the doctrine which *ye* have learnt, and turn away from them." (American Standard Version; ASV). If one did not fall away from the genuine teachings of Christ as did many Christians and all members of Islam, they are not deviants with respect the adhering to the genuine teachings of Christ.
[12] Many members of Islam are ignorant of history, and cause and effect. See the proof,
"So You are actually condoning Christian terrorism Like Hiroshima And NAgazaki , The Holocaust ? , The War of roses , first worl war , second world war , All Christian Blood thirsty terrorists carried this out .
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6006&st=15&start=15 Page 2]"
Anyone who knows history well knows that Japan and Nazi Germany were the aggressors, or the cause, and that everything else that occurred were the effect and/or results of their cause. Calling this Christian terrorism is nothing but AN OUTRIGHT LIE. For more detail, go to,
[0] Islam Does Not Know Difference Between Cause and Effect or Result: at,
religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=recognize&thread=1163180211&page=1
[13] They claim that "hate as foundation of his (Jesus) faith," AN OUTRIGHT LIE, Jesus was all love as is his Father, Almighty God (YHWH), see Matthew 22:37-40 and 1 John 4:8.
"actual claim, HATE AS FOUNDATION OF HIS (Jesus) FAITH:[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=5917 ]"
[14] They came Islam's Laws are perfect, AN OUTRIGHT LIE. To see the facts,
[1] Islamic Justice - Injustice - In action - Part 1: [74] at,
religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=shia&thread=1182959323 or religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=sunni&thread=1182959708
[2] Islamic Justice - Injustice - In action - Part 2: at,
religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=shia&thread=1182959434 or religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=sunni&thread=1182959582
Here is their original outlandish claim,
"Islam's laws are just because the Creator is Perfect and so His Justice is also Perfect.
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6010 ]"
[15] They say, "my wife is defeated" , AN OUTRIGHT LIE, as they have proved none of her facts wrong.
Please go to this web site and post something against the lies they are telling against my good genuine Christian wife. Also, repost this on any web site you have access to.
[16] One of them suggest a desire to choke my wife, i.e., murder her, see,
[0] " suppose you are right brother. I just get so angry at Iris I could choke her
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6021&st=75 Page 5]"
husband o***ood Christian lady lied about by members of Islam
Members of Islam tell lies about genuine followers of Christ and accuse Christ ministry and gospel of being one of hate - ALL OUTRIGHT LIES. Something should be done about this - pronto:
Read the facts and take action:
ONE LYING POSTER SAID, about my good genuine Christian wife and myself when I went to her defense - YES TERRIBLE:
"No one is lying about you Iris."
When the truth is this very poster has been lying about my good wife:
[1] She called her a sleeper, AN OUTRIGHT LIE.
[2] She called her a very *friendly* person, AN OUTRIGHT LIE.
[3] She called her a twit, AN OUTRIGHT LIE.
[4] She called her an apostate, AN OUTRIGHT LIE.
[5] She said Almighty God (YHWH) = Allah, AN OUTRIGHT LIE. For details see
[0] Iris89 Tells The Factual Truth - Islam Does Not Like: at,
religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=sunni&thread=1182954261
[6] She said the following "Bible knockoff the Qur'an" is an insult, AN OUTRIGHT LIE as it is the truth,
see the proof,
[0] Book Review Shows Quran A Knockoff of The Bible at,
religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=knockoff&thread=1177951059
[[her lie told at, www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6044 ]
[7] She said "totally away from topic", AN OUTRIGHT LIE, see her comment below,
"This article is about a priest who killed a nun while trying to remove a demon from her.
If it's not your brand of christianity then don't bother about it
It has nothing to do with any holy book or any of the other nonsense you posted that is totally away from the topic" whereas my wife's post was a direct counter to same and dealt with imam's plots for murder showing Islam's religious leaders guilty of same thing as the priest. Now that is not off topic.
[8] She said my wife posted porn, AN OUTRIGHT LIE. First she does not even know the meaning of porn, let's look at what a dictionary and an encyclopedia said,
"PORN, noun: creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire [source - One Look Dictionary, www.onelook.com/?w=porn&ls=a ]"
"Pornography, sometimes shortened to porn or porno, is, in its broadest state, the explicit representation of the human body or sexual activity with the goal of sexual arousal and/or sexual relief. It is similar to erotica, which is the use of sexually-arousing imagery used mainly for artistic purpose. Over the past few decades, an immense industry for the production and consumption of pornography has grown, due to emergence of the VCR, the DVD, and the Internet, as well as the emergence of more tolerant social attitudes.
In general, "erotica" refers to portrayals of sexually arousing material that hold or aspire to artistic or historical merit, whereas "pornography" often connotes the prurient depiction of sexual acts, with little or no artistic value. The line between "erotica" and the term "pornography" (which is frequently considered a pejorative term) is often highly subjective. In practice, pornography can be defined merely as erotica that certain people perceive as "obscene." The definition of what one considers obscene can differ between persons, cultures and eras. This leaves legal actions by those who oppose pornography open to wide interpretation. It also provides lucrative employment for armies of lawyers, on several "sides."
Pornography may use any of a variety of media - printed literature, photos, sculpture, drawing, painting, animation, sound recording, film, video, or video game. However, when sexual acts are performed for a live audience, by definition it is not pornography, as the term applies to the depiction or reproduction of the act, rather than the act itself.[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography ]"
Let's look at what was said, party 1, my good wife, party 2 the liar.
"Party 1 "One women that does not know how to tell the truth and who calls others sleepers, very *friendly* persons, etc. said,"
Party 2 "IF your wife apologized for posting porn then perhaps I would apologize for calling her a sleeper. IF not then only a sleeper would post porn on a religious board so I stand by my opinion.
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=5935&st=15&start=15 ]"
"by party 2, I am not the one lying, why don't you show us where membership requirement for the porn site is to be muslim if you are truthrul? Your sleeper of a wife (if you're really her husband and not her which I doubt) posted a website which has a naked man at the bottom of the page as well as links to other porn material. Perhaps you good christians don't consider nude images as porn but most conservative, religious people do. "
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6011 ]
Now what was posted was from one of their Muslim sites run by Muslim homosexuals who are recognized by BBC, Newsweek, The Middle East Times, etc. not as a porn site but a Muslim homosexual site, contact BBC on GayEgypt org. and they will verify this fact. Can you imagine Muslims charging you with mention of a Muslim site, what an unjust double standard as Muslims are responsible for the site, not any type of Christian. The fact is, my wife is not promoting any pornsight, but simply showing that Muslims are operating a major homosexual site.
"Party 2, even had the nerve to say, 'yOU have failed to deal with why they are doing this since the Qur'an is against homosexuality - you need to explain.'" Now I ask who but Muslims need to explain Muslim actions? This is just ridiculas.
"Party 1, 'you are quick to call attention to some apostate (counterfeit) so called Christian church approving of child sex abuse of which I never questioned the validity as I am a realist, but you have tried to dodge and deny the fact that Muslims are operating a major honosexual site - that is dishonest.'"
[9] She said my wife was rebellious, AN OUTRIGHT LIE. Who better than a women's husband should know the truth?
"Their slanderous post, 'IRIS should be ignored from this point on since she has already admitted that she's just a rebelious ex-muslim who couldn't stomach the laws she was expected to follow.... a poor excuse for turning your back on God if you ask me....[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=5269&st=120&start=120 Page 9]'"
Fact, my wife was never a Muslim as she came from a mixed religious household and never joined either of the false religions of that household, so no way can she be an ex-Muslim when she never was one to begin with.
[10] I, Iris's husband was called a plagiarist, AN OUTRIGHT LIE. Let's first consider what a plagiarist is,
plagiarist = noun: someone who uses another person's words or ideas as if they were his own, [source - One Look Dictionary, www.onelook.com/?w=plagiarist&ls=a ]
Now let's look at the false charge,
"Well at least "he" admits that he's plagarizing "her" work before "he" reposts "her" CP nonsense.
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6008]" but I give full credit and use with permission - that is not plagiarizing - so as usual another lie from Islam.
[11] I, Iris's husband was called a deviant, AN OUTRIGHT LIE, as I have not deviated from the teachings of Christ. Now let's look at the definition of deviant,
"ADJECTIVE: Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society. NOUN: One that differs from a norm, especially a person whose behavior and attitudes differ from accepted social standards.
[source- One Look Dictionary]The American HeritageOne Look Dictionary]
While the Apostles were on earth, there was only one classification of for followers of Christ, but shortly after their departure a great many so called Christians fell away from being genuine (true) followers of Christ and this was foretold to pass at Romans 16:17, " But I beseech you, brethren, to consider those who create divisions and occasions of falling, contrary to the doctrine which *ye* have learnt, and turn away from them." (American Standard Version; ASV). If one did not fall away from the genuine teachings of Christ as did many Christians and all members of Islam, they are not deviants with respect the adhering to the genuine teachings of Christ.
[12] Many members of Islam are ignorant of history, and cause and effect. See the proof,
"So You are actually condoning Christian terrorism Like Hiroshima And NAgazaki , The Holocaust ? , The War of roses , first worl war , second world war , All Christian Blood thirsty terrorists carried this out .
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6006&st=15&start=15 Page 2]"
Anyone who knows history well knows that Japan and Nazi Germany were the aggressors, or the cause, and that everything else that occurred were the effect and/or results of their cause. Calling this Christian terrorism is nothing but AN OUTRIGHT LIE. For more detail, go to,
[0] Islam Does Not Know Difference Between Cause and Effect or Result: at,
religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=recognize&thread=1163180211&page=1
[13] They claim that "hate as foundation of his (Jesus) faith," AN OUTRIGHT LIE, Jesus was all love as is his Father, Almighty God (YHWH), see Matthew 22:37-40 and 1 John 4:8.
"actual claim, HATE AS FOUNDATION OF HIS (Jesus) FAITH:[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=5917 ]"
[14] They came Islam's Laws are perfect, AN OUTRIGHT LIE. To see the facts,
[1] Islamic Justice - Injustice - In action - Part 1: [74] at,
religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=shia&thread=1182959323 or religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=sunni&thread=1182959708
[2] Islamic Justice - Injustice - In action - Part 2: at,
religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=shia&thread=1182959434 or religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=sunni&thread=1182959582
Here is their original outlandish claim,
"Islam's laws are just because the Creator is Perfect and so His Justice is also Perfect.
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6010 ]"
[15] They say, "my wife is defeated" , AN OUTRIGHT LIE, as they have proved none of her facts wrong.
Please go to this web site and post something against the lies they are telling against my good genuine Christian wife. Also, repost this on any web site you have access to.
[16] One of them suggest a desire to choke my wife, i.e., murder her, see,
[0] " suppose you are right brother. I just get so angry at Iris I could choke her
[source - www.forumofislam.com/index.php?showtopic=6021&st=75 Page 5]"
husband o***ood Christian lady lied about by members of Islam