Post by iris89 on Sept 1, 2005 0:07:11 GMT -5
What Does At the Right Hand of God Mean?
INTRODUCTION;
Some incorrectly claim this means Jesus (Yeshua) was in the position of ultimate power, but the scriptures clearly show that his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) was in the position of ultimate power. Jesus (Yeshua) was acting as his ‘right-hand-man’ since that is what the ancient expression of sitting on the right hand of power meant. Let’s look at the scriptural facts.
THE SCRIPTURAL FACTS:
Lu 22:69 - (Authorized King James Bible; AV)
Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God. [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand]
Ac 2:33 - (AV)
Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand. The power clearly was his Father (YHWH) and also showing he had received some of his Father’s (YHWH’s) power or Spirit. The Hebrew word here rendered Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, or Spirit which is translated from 'ru'ach' meaning "breath; wind; spirit." Thus the idea that the holy spirit is the third person of a Trinity, when in fact the Bible does not support the Holy Ghost or Spirit as being a being at all, is absurd. For example, "The Catholic Encyclopedia:" states, "Nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of a Third Person." And Catholic theologian Fortman states, "The Jews never regarded the spirit as a person; nor is there any solid evidence that any Old Testament writer held this view. . . . The Holy Spirit is usually presented in the Synoptics [Gospels] and in Acts as a divine force or power." Whereas, "The New Catholic Encyclopedia" states, "The O[ld] T[estament] clearly does not envisage God's spirit as a person . . . God's spirit is simply God's power. If it is sometimes represented as being distinct from God, it is because the breath of Yahweh acts exteriorly." It also states, "The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God's spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God." And "A Catholic Dictionary," states, "On the whole, the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power."
Hence as can readily be seen, neither the Jews nor the early Christians viewed the holy spirit as part of a Trinity. That teaching came centuries later. As "A Catholic Dictionary," notes: "The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362 . . . and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381." Interestingly this being approximately three and a half centuries after holy spirit filled the disciples at Pentecost! No, the holy spirit is not a person and it is not part of a Trinity. The holy spirit is God's active force that he uses to accomplish his will. It is not equal to God but is always at his disposition and subordinate to him as clearly shown by scripture and by historical reference.
The doctrine of the Trinity was hotly debated in the 4th century and is man made. When Luther blew the lid off the RCC that salvation is by faith and not by works, he didn't go far enough to eradicate the doctrine of the Trinity as well. But the mainstream churches still staunchly support it, rather than giving far more credence to what the scriptures teach us - than from what has come out of man made creeds. This false doctrine is shown false by among other things the fact that the Holy Spirit is nowhere in the Bible ever depicted as a person - but rather as a dove, John.1:32, "And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him." (AV), as a big wind and forked tongued flame at Acts 2:1-4, "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance." (AV).
So we see the need to daily examine the scriptures as did the Bereans as recorded at Acts 17:11, "These were more noble than those in Thesalonica in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." (AV), do not let your guard down. Remember Titus 2:1, "But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:" (AV).]
]
Ac 5:31 - (AV)
Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand of his God (YHWH), his Father because “God exalted” him to this position.]
Ac 7:55 - (AV)
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand]
Ac 7:56 - (AV)
And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand]
Ro 8:34 - (AV)
Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand. This scripture when it speaks of Christ “maketh intercession for us” is backed up by John 5:22, “For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:” (AV) and 1 Timothy 2:5, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; “ (AV). Both clearly showing the Christ, NOT as God (YHWH) but at his “right hand of God” making “intercession for us.”]
Col 3:1 - (AV)
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. . [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand “Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.” This also clearly shows he, Christ, is NOT God (YHWH).]
Heb 10:12 - (AV)
But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; . [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand.]
Heb 12:2 - (AV)
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. . [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand “Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.” This also clearly shows he, Christ, is NOT God (YHWH).]
1Pe 3:22 - (AV)
Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. . [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand “Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.” This also clearly shows he, Christ, is NOT God (YHWH). This scripture is related to what is said in 1 Corinthians 15:22-28, “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (AV). Interestingly this scripture clearly proves they are two distinct entities as “For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.” By showing that his Father, God (YHWH) put all under Christ except himself.]
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Your Friend in Christ Iris89
INTRODUCTION;
Some incorrectly claim this means Jesus (Yeshua) was in the position of ultimate power, but the scriptures clearly show that his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) was in the position of ultimate power. Jesus (Yeshua) was acting as his ‘right-hand-man’ since that is what the ancient expression of sitting on the right hand of power meant. Let’s look at the scriptural facts.
THE SCRIPTURAL FACTS:
Lu 22:69 - (Authorized King James Bible; AV)
Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God. [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand]
Ac 2:33 - (AV)
Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand. The power clearly was his Father (YHWH) and also showing he had received some of his Father’s (YHWH’s) power or Spirit. The Hebrew word here rendered Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, or Spirit which is translated from 'ru'ach' meaning "breath; wind; spirit." Thus the idea that the holy spirit is the third person of a Trinity, when in fact the Bible does not support the Holy Ghost or Spirit as being a being at all, is absurd. For example, "The Catholic Encyclopedia:" states, "Nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of a Third Person." And Catholic theologian Fortman states, "The Jews never regarded the spirit as a person; nor is there any solid evidence that any Old Testament writer held this view. . . . The Holy Spirit is usually presented in the Synoptics [Gospels] and in Acts as a divine force or power." Whereas, "The New Catholic Encyclopedia" states, "The O[ld] T[estament] clearly does not envisage God's spirit as a person . . . God's spirit is simply God's power. If it is sometimes represented as being distinct from God, it is because the breath of Yahweh acts exteriorly." It also states, "The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God's spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God." And "A Catholic Dictionary," states, "On the whole, the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power."
Hence as can readily be seen, neither the Jews nor the early Christians viewed the holy spirit as part of a Trinity. That teaching came centuries later. As "A Catholic Dictionary," notes: "The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362 . . . and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381." Interestingly this being approximately three and a half centuries after holy spirit filled the disciples at Pentecost! No, the holy spirit is not a person and it is not part of a Trinity. The holy spirit is God's active force that he uses to accomplish his will. It is not equal to God but is always at his disposition and subordinate to him as clearly shown by scripture and by historical reference.
The doctrine of the Trinity was hotly debated in the 4th century and is man made. When Luther blew the lid off the RCC that salvation is by faith and not by works, he didn't go far enough to eradicate the doctrine of the Trinity as well. But the mainstream churches still staunchly support it, rather than giving far more credence to what the scriptures teach us - than from what has come out of man made creeds. This false doctrine is shown false by among other things the fact that the Holy Spirit is nowhere in the Bible ever depicted as a person - but rather as a dove, John.1:32, "And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him." (AV), as a big wind and forked tongued flame at Acts 2:1-4, "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance." (AV).
So we see the need to daily examine the scriptures as did the Bereans as recorded at Acts 17:11, "These were more noble than those in Thesalonica in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." (AV), do not let your guard down. Remember Titus 2:1, "But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:" (AV).]
]
Ac 5:31 - (AV)
Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand of his God (YHWH), his Father because “God exalted” him to this position.]
Ac 7:55 - (AV)
But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand]
Ac 7:56 - (AV)
And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand]
Ro 8:34 - (AV)
Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand. This scripture when it speaks of Christ “maketh intercession for us” is backed up by John 5:22, “For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:” (AV) and 1 Timothy 2:5, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; “ (AV). Both clearly showing the Christ, NOT as God (YHWH) but at his “right hand of God” making “intercession for us.”]
Col 3:1 - (AV)
If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. . [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand “Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.” This also clearly shows he, Christ, is NOT God (YHWH).]
Heb 10:12 - (AV)
But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; . [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand.]
Heb 12:2 - (AV)
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. . [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand “Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.” This also clearly shows he, Christ, is NOT God (YHWH).]
1Pe 3:22 - (AV)
Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. . [clearly showing he was NOT the power or being in power, but was sitting at his right hand “Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.” This also clearly shows he, Christ, is NOT God (YHWH). This scripture is related to what is said in 1 Corinthians 15:22-28, “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” (AV). Interestingly this scripture clearly proves they are two distinct entities as “For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.” By showing that his Father, God (YHWH) put all under Christ except himself.]
To learn more, go to:
www.network54.com/Forum/391186
And,
www.network54.com/Forum/391561
And,
www.network54.com/Forum/t...1125546132
Your Friend in Christ Iris89