Post by iris89 on Jan 16, 2006 19:42:47 GMT -5
Discourse On Who Is God's Master Worker:
INTRODUCTION:
It is important for all to realize that Jesus (Yeshua), God's (YHWH's) only begotten son is his master worker. He acts only as his Father's (YHWH's) agent so just like a construction worker who helps build is not considered the builder, Jesus (Yeshua) is not the Creator of all there is, but his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) is. This will be clearly shown in this article.
SOME LACK BASIC KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ALMIGHTY GOD (YHWH):
Some individuals do not seem to realize who Jesus" (Yeshua's) Father (YHWH) is as shown by what one of these individuals said,
But this is a statement based on NOTHING as we have no idea what God (YHWH) looks like. The encyclopedia says,
And the Bible says, at Exodus 33:20, " And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), and we all know dead men tell nothing; And John 1:18 says, " No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." (AV); And 1 Timothy 1:17, " Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen." (AV).
GOD'S (YHWH's) MASTER WORKER, JESUS (YESHUA):
In fact, God (YHWH) used his Son, Jesus (Yeshua) as his master worker in the creation of all else as shown at Proverbs 8:22-31, " Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old.[these being the creation of all else; to wit, the universe with the earth and mankind, etc.]
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, Before the earth was.[before the creation of all else]
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth, When there were no fountains abounding with water.[before the earth was]
25 Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills was I brought forth; .[before the earth was]
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, Nor the beginning of the dust of the world. .[before the earth was]
27 When he established the heavens, I was there: [clearly showing that Jesus (Yeshua) was there when the earth was created, and thus Jesus (Yeshua) could say at John 8:58, "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was born, I am." (AV)] When he set a circle upon the face of the deep,
28 When he made firm the skies above, When the fountains of the deep became strong,
29 When he gave to the sea its bound, That the waters should not transgress his commandment, When he marked out the foundations of the earth;
30 Then I was by him, as a master workman[clearly showing Jesus (Yeshua) to be his Father's (YHWH's) master worker]; And I was daily his delight, Rejoicing always before him,[showing God (YHWH) took delight in his only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua)]
31 Rejoicing in his habitable earth; And my delight was with the sons of men." (American Standard Version; ASV)
One Bible dictionary said the following:
BIBLICAL LAW OF AGENCIES AND CONCLUSION:
Although Jesus (Yeshua) acted as his Father's (YHWH's) master worker, his Father (YHWH) was the creator in keeping with the Biblical Law of Agencies. Let's briefly look at this law or principle:
"The law or custom commonly known as the Jewish Law of Agencies as follows, "Jesus (Yeshua) was God's (YHWH's) appointed agent in accordance with the 'Biblical law of agency' described as, "Scripture mentions something being done by Person A, whilst another mentions it being done by Person B. This is best understood when we grasp the Schaliach Principle, or the Jewish Law of Agency, which is expressed in the dictum, 'A person's agent is regarded as the person himself." Therefore any act committed by a duly appointed agent is regarded as having been committed by the principle.'" [source - The Encyclopedia of the Jewish Religion, R.J.Z. Werblowski and Geoffrey Wigoder].
It is important to understand this law of agencies since this will enhance our understanding of many key texts, such as why the Judges and angels were called "God" (Ex. 21:6; 22:8; Ps. 8:5; 82:1). Many more instances could be provided, but brevity is in order here. John 8:54 drives this law of agency home, "Jesus answered, 'If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say that he is your God." (Confraternity Edition of The New Testament; CETNT) showing that Jesus (Yeshua) was his Father's (YHWH's) agent, and he sought not his own glory, but glory from his Father (YHWH). Therefore, Jesus (Yeshua) could say as he did at John 11:40, "Jesus said to her, 'Have I not told thee that if thou believe thou shalt behold the glory of God?'" (CETNT). Even Satan the Devil recognized this, Jesus (Yeshua), as God's (YHWH's) agent, 2 Corinthians 4:4, "In their case, the god of this world has blinded their unbelieving minds, that they should not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible).
Thus, Satan the Devil is trying to blind the minds of the unbelieving to prevent them from recognizing this truth. thus he is trying to blind the minds of the unbelieving to prevent them from recognizing this truth. We must be constantly on guard against the imaginations of Satan the Devil and his attempts to get all men to believe God (YHWH) dishonoring doctrines of men such as the Duality and the Trinity and be noble like the Beroeans, Acts 17:11, " These were more noble than those in Thesalonica in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." (AV). Remember, popularity does not make a doctrine sound, and in fact usually ensures it is NOT from God (YHWH) otherwise it would NOT be popular in a world controlled by Satan the Devil.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89
INTRODUCTION:
It is important for all to realize that Jesus (Yeshua), God's (YHWH's) only begotten son is his master worker. He acts only as his Father's (YHWH's) agent so just like a construction worker who helps build is not considered the builder, Jesus (Yeshua) is not the Creator of all there is, but his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) is. This will be clearly shown in this article.
SOME LACK BASIC KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ALMIGHTY GOD (YHWH):
Some individuals do not seem to realize who Jesus" (Yeshua's) Father (YHWH) is as shown by what one of these individuals said,
"YHWH has always had hands, even when He appeared to Ezekiel. Remember that the LORD God is YHWH, the Son of the unknown invisble Almighty God Father."
But this is a statement based on NOTHING as we have no idea what God (YHWH) looks like. The encyclopedia says,
"The Tetragrammaton (Greek: tet?a???µµat?? word with four letters) is the usual reference to the Hebrew name for God, which is spelled (in the Hebrew alphabet): ? (yod) ? (heh) ? (vav) ? (heh) or ???? (YHWH); it is the distinctive personal name of the God of Israel.
Of all the names of God, the one which occurs most frequently is the Tetragrammaton, appearing 6,823 times, according to the Jewish Encyclopedia. The Biblia Hebraica and Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia texts of the Hebrew Scriptures each contain the Tetragrammaton 6,828 times.
In Judaism, the Tetragrammaton is the ineffable name of God, and is therefore not to be read aloud. In the reading aloud of the scripture or in prayer, it is replaced with Adonai (Lord). Other written forms such as ? (yod) ? (vav) (yw or Yaw); or ? (yod) ? (heh) (yh or Yah) are read in the same way.
Outside of direct prayer, the word "Adonai" is not spoken by some Jews since to do so is considered a violation of the commandment not to use the Lord's name in vain. Therefore, the word is often read as HaShem (literally, "The Name"), or in some cases Ado-Shem, a composite of Adonai and HaShem. A similar rule applies to the word Elohim ("God"), which some Jews intentionally mispronounced as Elokim for the same reason.
One theory regarding the disuse of the Tetragrammaton is that the Jewish taboo on its pronunciation was so strong that the original pronunciation may have been lost somewhere in the first millennium. Since then, many scholars (particularly Christians) have sought to reconstruct its original pronunciation. For example, around 1518 Christian theologians1 introduced the pronunciation Yehovah, which is generally held to be implausible, based on the written form ??????? (read normally, "Yehovah") that was used to indicate to the reader of the Bible in Hebrew to pronounce it "Adonai" (???????). (Note that due to a rule of Hebrew grammar, the beginning E of the first transliteration is analogous to the beginning A of the second, although they are pronounced differently.)
This theory regarding the disuse of the Tetragrammaton is the result of an interpretation of the Third of the Ten Commandments. The Jewish people stopped saying the Name by the 3rd century out of fear of violating the commandment "You shall not take the name of YHWH your God in vain" (Exodus 20:7)."[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]
Of all the names of God, the one which occurs most frequently is the Tetragrammaton, appearing 6,823 times, according to the Jewish Encyclopedia. The Biblia Hebraica and Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia texts of the Hebrew Scriptures each contain the Tetragrammaton 6,828 times.
In Judaism, the Tetragrammaton is the ineffable name of God, and is therefore not to be read aloud. In the reading aloud of the scripture or in prayer, it is replaced with Adonai (Lord). Other written forms such as ? (yod) ? (vav) (yw or Yaw); or ? (yod) ? (heh) (yh or Yah) are read in the same way.
Outside of direct prayer, the word "Adonai" is not spoken by some Jews since to do so is considered a violation of the commandment not to use the Lord's name in vain. Therefore, the word is often read as HaShem (literally, "The Name"), or in some cases Ado-Shem, a composite of Adonai and HaShem. A similar rule applies to the word Elohim ("God"), which some Jews intentionally mispronounced as Elokim for the same reason.
One theory regarding the disuse of the Tetragrammaton is that the Jewish taboo on its pronunciation was so strong that the original pronunciation may have been lost somewhere in the first millennium. Since then, many scholars (particularly Christians) have sought to reconstruct its original pronunciation. For example, around 1518 Christian theologians1 introduced the pronunciation Yehovah, which is generally held to be implausible, based on the written form ??????? (read normally, "Yehovah") that was used to indicate to the reader of the Bible in Hebrew to pronounce it "Adonai" (???????). (Note that due to a rule of Hebrew grammar, the beginning E of the first transliteration is analogous to the beginning A of the second, although they are pronounced differently.)
This theory regarding the disuse of the Tetragrammaton is the result of an interpretation of the Third of the Ten Commandments. The Jewish people stopped saying the Name by the 3rd century out of fear of violating the commandment "You shall not take the name of YHWH your God in vain" (Exodus 20:7)."[source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]
And the Bible says, at Exodus 33:20, " And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), and we all know dead men tell nothing; And John 1:18 says, " No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him." (AV); And 1 Timothy 1:17, " Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen." (AV).
GOD'S (YHWH's) MASTER WORKER, JESUS (YESHUA):
In fact, God (YHWH) used his Son, Jesus (Yeshua) as his master worker in the creation of all else as shown at Proverbs 8:22-31, " Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old.[these being the creation of all else; to wit, the universe with the earth and mankind, etc.]
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, Before the earth was.[before the creation of all else]
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth, When there were no fountains abounding with water.[before the earth was]
25 Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills was I brought forth; .[before the earth was]
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, Nor the beginning of the dust of the world. .[before the earth was]
27 When he established the heavens, I was there: [clearly showing that Jesus (Yeshua) was there when the earth was created, and thus Jesus (Yeshua) could say at John 8:58, "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was born, I am." (AV)] When he set a circle upon the face of the deep,
28 When he made firm the skies above, When the fountains of the deep became strong,
29 When he gave to the sea its bound, That the waters should not transgress his commandment, When he marked out the foundations of the earth;
30 Then I was by him, as a master workman[clearly showing Jesus (Yeshua) to be his Father's (YHWH's) master worker]; And I was daily his delight, Rejoicing always before him,[showing God (YHWH) took delight in his only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua)]
31 Rejoicing in his habitable earth; And my delight was with the sons of men." (American Standard Version; ASV)
One Bible dictionary said the following:
" What is recorded concerning the Word in the Scriptures fits remarkably the description given at Proverbs 8:22-31. There wisdom is personified, represented as though able to speak and act. (Pr 8:1) Many professed Christian writers of the early centuries of the Common Era understood this section to refer symbolically to God’s Son in his prehuman state. In view of the texts already considered, there can be no denying that that Son was “produced” by Jehovah “as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago,” nor that the Son was “beside [Jehovah] as a master worker” during earth’s creation, as described in these verses of Proverbs. It is true that in Hebrew, which assigns gender to its nouns (as do many other languages), the word for “wisdom” is always in the feminine gender. This would continue to be the case even though wisdom is personified and so would not rule out wisdom’s being used figuratively to represent God’s firstborn Son. The Greek word for “love” in the expression “God is love” (1Jo 4:8) is also in the feminine gender but that does not make God feminine. Solomon, the principal writer of Proverbs (Pr 1:1), applied the title qo·he'leth (congregator) to himself (Ec 1:1) and this word is also in the feminine gender"[source - Insight on the Bible, Volume2]
BIBLICAL LAW OF AGENCIES AND CONCLUSION:
Although Jesus (Yeshua) acted as his Father's (YHWH's) master worker, his Father (YHWH) was the creator in keeping with the Biblical Law of Agencies. Let's briefly look at this law or principle:
"The law or custom commonly known as the Jewish Law of Agencies as follows, "Jesus (Yeshua) was God's (YHWH's) appointed agent in accordance with the 'Biblical law of agency' described as, "Scripture mentions something being done by Person A, whilst another mentions it being done by Person B. This is best understood when we grasp the Schaliach Principle, or the Jewish Law of Agency, which is expressed in the dictum, 'A person's agent is regarded as the person himself." Therefore any act committed by a duly appointed agent is regarded as having been committed by the principle.'" [source - The Encyclopedia of the Jewish Religion, R.J.Z. Werblowski and Geoffrey Wigoder].
It is important to understand this law of agencies since this will enhance our understanding of many key texts, such as why the Judges and angels were called "God" (Ex. 21:6; 22:8; Ps. 8:5; 82:1). Many more instances could be provided, but brevity is in order here. John 8:54 drives this law of agency home, "Jesus answered, 'If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say that he is your God." (Confraternity Edition of The New Testament; CETNT) showing that Jesus (Yeshua) was his Father's (YHWH's) agent, and he sought not his own glory, but glory from his Father (YHWH). Therefore, Jesus (Yeshua) could say as he did at John 11:40, "Jesus said to her, 'Have I not told thee that if thou believe thou shalt behold the glory of God?'" (CETNT). Even Satan the Devil recognized this, Jesus (Yeshua), as God's (YHWH's) agent, 2 Corinthians 4:4, "In their case, the god of this world has blinded their unbelieving minds, that they should not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." (Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible).
Thus, Satan the Devil is trying to blind the minds of the unbelieving to prevent them from recognizing this truth. thus he is trying to blind the minds of the unbelieving to prevent them from recognizing this truth. We must be constantly on guard against the imaginations of Satan the Devil and his attempts to get all men to believe God (YHWH) dishonoring doctrines of men such as the Duality and the Trinity and be noble like the Beroeans, Acts 17:11, " These were more noble than those in Thesalonica in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so." (AV). Remember, popularity does not make a doctrine sound, and in fact usually ensures it is NOT from God (YHWH) otherwise it would NOT be popular in a world controlled by Satan the Devil.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89