Sequel # 8 to The Trinity, So Called The Central D

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Sequel # 8 to The Trinity, So Called The Central Doctrine of Christianity Is NOT As Billed

NTRODUCTION:

First, let’s define what the Trinity is:

The Trinity is said to be the central doctrine of the religions of Christendom, and according to the Athanasian Creed, this false doctrine consist of three divine individuals, the Father – Almighty God (YHWH), the Son – Jesus (Yeshua) Christ, and the Holy Ghost – the active force or power of Almighty God (YHWH). All are said to be eternal, each said to be almighty – none greater or less than the other, each said to be God – a ‘three-in-one-god,’ and yet together being but one God. Other statements of the dogma emphasize that these three “Persons” are not separate and distinct individuals but are three modes in which the divine essence exists. Thus some Trinitarians emphasize their belief that Jesus Christ is God, or that Jesus and the Holy Ghost are Yehwah. [[Not a Bible Teaching]].

Second, How did this false doctrine of the Trinity originate? Let’s look at some authoritative historical and reference sources to find out.

Source 1, an encyclopedia, <<< “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.” [source - The New Encyclopædia Britannica, (1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.]>>>.

Source 2, a Catholic encyclopedia, <<< “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.” [source - The New Catholic Encyclopedia states, (1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299]>>>.

Source 3, an encyclopedia, <<< “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.” [source - The Encyclopedia Americana, (1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L]>>>.

Source 4, a French Dictionary, <<< “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions.” [source - Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, (Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467]>>>.

Source 5, a Bible dictionary, <<< “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.” [source - Dictionary of the Bible, by - John L. McKenzie, S.J., (New York, 1965), p. 899]>>>.

Third, Interestingly even Trinitarians, believers in the Trinity, acknowledge that neither the word ‘Trinity’ nor a statement of the ‘Trinitarian dogma’ is found in the Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), the Bible. So the question is, are the concepts that are embodied in that dogma found in the Bible?

Let’s now consider if the Bible teaches that the ‘Holy Spirit’ is a person – this would be required if the ‘Trinity’ is other than a myth, a false teaching taught by those inspired of the Devil spoken of at 2 Peter 2:1, “But there arose false prophets also among the people, as among you also there shall be false teachers, who shall privily bring in destructive heresies, denying even the Master that bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.” (American Standard Version; ASV).

WHO OR WHAT IS THE ‘HOLY SPIRIT’?

First, does the Bible teach that the ‘Holy Spirit’ is an spirit individual?

While some individual texts seem to give the impression that the ‘Holy Spirit’ (HS) [‘Holy Ghost’] has a personality, such as those speaking of the ‘Comforter,’ [Koine Greek, ‘pa·ra'kle·tos’], as bearing witness, speaks, and hears such as John 14:16-17 and 26, “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may be with you for ever, 17 even the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for he abideth with you, and shall be in you.” And “26 But the Comforter, even the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said unto you.” (ASV); and John 15:26, “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall bear witness of me:” (ASV); and John 16:13, “Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak: and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come.” (ASV). However other scriptures clearly show that people were ‘filled’ with the HS, and that some were ‘baptized’ with it and/or ‘anointed’ with it, such as Luke 1:41, “And it came to pass, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit;” (ASV); and Matthew 3:11, “I indeed baptize you in water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you in the Holy Spirit and in fire:’ (ASV), and Acts 10:38, “even Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.” (ASV).

In order to understand what the Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), the Bible, as a whole really teaches, all of these scriptures must be considered. Now what is a reasonable conclusion? It would be that the first group of scriptures - John 14:16, 17, 26; 15:26; 16:13, are employing a figure of speech personifying Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) ‘holy spirit,’ his active force, as the Bible also personifies wisdom, sin, death, water, etc., such as Proverbs 1:20, “ Wisdom crieth aloud in the street; She uttereth her voice in the broad places; Genesis 4:7, “If thou doest well, shall it not be lifted up? and if thou doest not well, sin coucheth at the door; and unto thee shall be its desire; but do thou rule over it.” (ASV), Isaiah 25:8, “He hath swallowed up death for ever; and the Lord Jehovah will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the reproach of his people will he take away from off all the earth: for Jehovah hath spoken it.” (ASV), Revelation 22:17, “17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And he that heareth, let him say, Come. And he that is athirst, let him come: he that will, let him take the water of life freely.” (ASV), etc.

Now a little logic and common sense on the subject. The Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), the Bible, tells us the personal name of the Father at Exodus 6:3 and elsewhere, let’s confirm this fact in a few Bibles:

(American Standard Version; ASV), “and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, as God Almighty; but by my name Jehovah I was not known to them.”

(Authorized King James Bible; AV) , “And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

(Rotherham Bible of 1902; RB), “I appeared, therefore, unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, as GOD Almighty,––although, by my name Yahweh, was I not made known to them;”

(1917 Jewish Publication Society Old Testament: JPS), “and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name Jehovah” {The Hebrew word (four Hebrew letters: HE, VAV, HE, YOD,) remained in the English text untranslated; the English word ‘Jehovah’ was substituted for this Hebrew word. The footnote for this Hebrew word is: "The ineffable name, read}

(Darby 1884 Version; Darby), “And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, as the Almighty *God; but by my name Jehovah I was not made known to them.”

(English Revised Version; ERV), “and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, as God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH I was not known to them.”

(Young's Literal Translation; YLT), “and I appear unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, as God Almighty; as to My name Jehovah, I have not been known to them;”

Also, the Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), the Bible, tells us the personal name of the Son of Almighty God (YHWH), Jesus (Yeshua) Christ, for example, at Matthew 1:25,

(American Standard Version; ASV), “and knew her not till she had brought forth a son: and he called his name JESUS.”

(Authorized King James Bible; AV), “And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.”

(Rotherham Bible of 1902; RB), “and knew her not, until she had brought forth a son,––and he called his name Jesus.”

(Darby 1884 Version; Darby), “and knew her not until she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.”

(English Revised Version; ERV), “and knew her not till she had brought forth a son: and he called his name JESUS.”

(Young's Literal Translation; YLT), “and did not know her till she brought forth her son—the first-born, and he called his name Jesus.”

(Noyes 1869 Translation: N1869T), “and he knew her not till she had brought forth a son: and he called his name Jesus.”

But, the Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), the Bible, nowhere gives a personal name for the ‘Holy Spirit’ (HS). Why is this? It is because the HS is NOT an individual, but the active force or power emanating from Almighty God (YHWH). This fact, is emphasized in Acts 7:55-56 where Stephen was given a vision of heaven and saw, “But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, 56 and said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing on the right hand of God.” (ASV), and he saw NO ‘Holy Spirit.’ This fact, that there is NO individual in heaven known as the ‘Holy Spirit’, and this point is also shown at Revelation 7:10, “and they cry with a great voice, saying, Salvation unto our God who sitteth on the throne, and unto the Lamb.” (ASV); and Revelation 22:1-3, “And he showed me a river of water of life, bright as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb, 2 in the midst of the street thereof. And on this side of the river and on that was the tree of life, bearing twelve manner of fruits, yielding its fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3 And there shall be no curse any more: and the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be therein: and his servants shall serve him;” (ASV).

In fact, the New Catholic Encyclopedia (NCE) admits that, <<<” The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God.” [source – NCE (1967, Vol. XIII, p. 575)]>>>; and <<<“The Apologists [Greek Christian writers of the second century] spoke too haltingly of the Spirit; with a measure of anticipation, one might say too impersonally.” [source – NCE (1967, Vol. XIV, p. 296)]>>>.

Now let’s look at some facts with respect the ‘Holy Spirit.”

<<<”1 Corinthians 12:11-12, “But all these worketh the one and the same Spirit, dividing to each one severally even as he will. 12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of the body, being many, are one body; so also is Christ.” (American Standard Version; ASV)

To fully understand this scripture we must look at two things: First, what immediately proceeded it, and Second, what is this Spirit or Holy Ghost as used in other Bibles. We will first consider the scripture that immediately proceeded it. But first we will consider another scripture that clearly show that the followers of Jesus (Yeshua) were given to him by his Father (YHWH) per John 17:5-8, "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. 6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept my word. 7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. 8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me." (Authorized King James Bible; AV). Now that we see, that Jesus' (Yeshua's) Father (YHWH) gave him his followers we will examine the scripture immediately proceeding 1 Corinthians 12:11-12, namely, 1 Corinthians 12 4-10, "Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are diversities of ministrations, and the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of workings, but the same God, who worketh all things in all. 7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit to profit withal. 8 For to one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom; and to another the word of knowledge, according to the same Spirit: 9 to another faith, in the same Spirit; and to another gifts of healing, in the one Spirit; 10 and to another workings of miracles; and to another prophecy; and to another discernings of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; and to another the interpretation of tongues." (ASV). Thus we see this Spirit being given in different ways to different individuals, and as we know a being could NOT be given in different ways to different individuals; therefore, this Spirit must be something other than a being. But what?

Now let's consider just what this Spirit is. Now what is this Spirit or Holy Spirit that John the Baptist mentioned at John 1:32, ""And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the holy Ghost." (AV)? The Holy Spirit is only God's (YHWH's) active force and not even a spirit being or person. This is clearly shown at Pentecost where the Holy Spirit was poured out onto all there, Acts 2:1-4, "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance." (AV). This entire scripture bespeaks of a force and not a being as you do not get filled with a being! And this fact is reaffirmed at Acts 4:31, ""And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spoke the word of God with boldness." (AV); And 2 Corinthians 1:21-22, "Now he which established us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; 22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts." (AV), surely a being would not be in our hearts as that is ludicrous, thus this scripture talks of God's (YHWH's) active force; This is clearly shown at Luke 11:13, "If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?" (AV). Once more, why? Why? Do many say they are coequal and coeternal when clearly they are not and the Holy Ghost is just God's (YHWH's) active force? Only to try to give some resemblance of reality to a myth as we shall later see. An interesting note on the Spirit is that the neuter Greek word for spirit (pneu'ma) is used, the neuter pronoun "it" is properly employed. This fact is conveniently over looked or hidden by most Trinitarian translators as admitted in the "New American Bible Catholic Bible," regarding John 14:17: "The Greek word for 'Spirit' is neuter, and while we use personal pronouns in English ('he,' 'his,' 'him'), most Greek MSS [manuscripts] employ 'it.'" So when the Bible uses masculine personal pronouns in connection with pa·ra'kle·tos at John 16:7, 8, it is conforming to rules of grammar, not expressing a doctrine. And in Ancient Hebrew the word here rendered Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, or Spirit which is translated from 'ru'ach' meaning "breath; wind; spirit." In Latin, it is spiritus, and in Sanskrit, 'prana' which means both "breath" and "spirit"

So it is clear that the Spirit is not a being but is God's (YHWH's) active force which he gives to both his Son, Jesus (Yeshua) and to his followers that he gave to him. This is made even clearer at 1 Corinthians 12:13, "For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit. And Hebrews 2:4 clearly reveals it as from him, "God also bearing witness with them, both by signs and wonders, and by manifold powers, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit, according to his own will." (ASV); And affirmed at 2 Peter 1:21, "For no prophecy ever came by the will of man: but men spake from God, being moved by the Holy Spirit." (ASV). Interestingly many ancient manuscripts with respect part of 1 Corinthians 12:4-11, in part read as follows, "Vulgate, Syriac, and Coptic [all important ancient manuscripts] read, "(the Lord God of the) spirits (of the prophets)." The Lord God who with His Spirit inspired their spirits so as to be able to prophesy. There is but one Spirit, but individual prophets, according to the measure given them " Thus it is obvious that the Spirit or Holy Spirit is God's (YHWH's) active force or power which he 'pours' out to his Son, Jesus (Yeshua) and to the faithful followers as necessary to get his will accomplished.

APPENDIX:

FIRST, Some may have a little trouble understanding what is called the Biblical Law of Agencies. But let me use an analogy to assist you with respect understanding. On the building of a condominium or any other large building, a contractor may employ many workers to assist him as his workers or agents with respect task at hand, but the contractor is STILL the builder. The same holds true for the true God (YHWH) of Abraham. He employed his only begotten son, Jesus (Yeshua), the first of creation or beginning of creation per Revelation 3:14, "And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God:" (American Standard Bible; AV) as his assistant or master worker. Proverbs 8:22-31 makes it clear that Jesus (Yeshua) is the true God (YHWH) of Abraham's master worker, "Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old. 23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, Before the earth was. 24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth, When there were no fountains abounding with water. 25 Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills was I brought forth; 26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, Nor the beginning of the dust of the world. 27 When he established the heavens, I was there: When he set a circle upon the face of the deep, 28 When he made firm the skies above, When the fountains of the deep became strong, 29 When he gave to the sea its bound, That the waters should not transgress his commandment, When he marked out the foundations of the earth; 30 Then I was by him, as a master workman; And I was daily his delight, Rejoicing always before him, 31 Rejoicing in his habitable earth; And my delight was with the sons of men." (ASV). So whereas an employee or worker or agent of a contractor becomes neither a co-contractor or co-builder even though he participated in the building process; neither does the fact that Jesus (Yeshua) was used as a master worker by the true God (YHWH) of Abraham in any way make him a co-creator.” [source – Commentary on 1 Corinthians 12:11-12, by Iris the Preacher 2002.]>>>.

IN fact, with respect to Almighty God (YHWH)one could say that a major aspect of his personality that comes through as the Spirit of God or ‘Holy Spirit,’ which is often referred to as simply the Ruach Ha-kodesh by the Jews. Let’s look at this aspect of Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) personality and power.

<<<" Ruach HaKodesh - Holy Spirit [[from a Jewish source]]
Tehillim 51:12 Create a pure heart for me, O G-d, and a steadfast spirit renew within me. 13 Cast me not away from Your Presence, and take not Your Holy Spirit from me.

The ruach ha-kodesh (holy spirit) is Divine inspiration or prophetic inspiration and is not the same as what is taught in Christianity as in the doctrine of the Trinity. No where in the Hebrew Scriptures is there any reference to a spirit divine in itself or 'Holy Ghost', as distinct from a spirit that comes from G-d to inspire human beings. For example, in Shemot 35:31, where it refers to Betzalel, the architect of the Mishkan, being filled with ruach Elokim...the meaning is that he was filled with a spirit which came from G-d to guide him in his task. This is the meaning in Rabbinic literature, where the term denotes a level of divine inspiration. The books of Tehillim and Mishlei were compiled under the ruach hakodesh, i.e., by a degree of inspiration, somewhat less than the degree of prophecy, although on occasion, the prophetic vision itself is also said to be by means of the ruach hakodesh.

Maimonides (Rambam) [Guide of the Perplexed, 2. 45) lists the ruach ha-kodesh as a degree of prophecy but understands it in a more or less rationalistic manner as a certain thing that descends upon an individual, 'so that he talks in wise sayings, in words of praise, in useful admonitory dicta, or concerning governmental or divine matters - and all this while he is awake and his senses function as usual'. With the passing of the last three prophets (Chaggai, Zechariah, Malachi) the ruach hakodesh is said to have departed from Yisrael (Tosefta, Sotah 13:2; Sanhedrin 11a) and subsequent revelations were given by a bat kol, a mysterious heavenly voice." [source - Ruach HaKodesh - Holy Spirit, at www.headcoverings-by-devorah.com/RuachHaKodesh_WhatIsIt.htm on 11/29/2007]>>>.

And last, let’s us consider what type of force or power the ‘Holy Spirit’ is.

See Part Two of Sequel # 8 to The Trinity, So Called The Central Doctrine of Christianity Is NOT As Billed

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Part Two of Sequel # 8 to The Trinity, So Called The Central Doctrine of Christianity Is NOT As Billed

<<<” But first let's see why the Spirit is indeed God's (YHWH's) active force or power from an understanding of the ancient word 'pneu'ma' translated Spirit or Holy Spirit in English. The neuter Koine Greek word for spirit (pneu'ma) is used with the neuter pronoun "it" since it is lacks gender. This fact is conveniently over looked or hidden by most Trinitarian translators of the Bible as admitted in the "New American Bible Catholic Bible," regarding John 14:17: "The Greek word for 'Spirit' is neuter, and while we use personal pronouns in English ('he,' 'his,' 'him'), most Greek MSS [manuscripts] employ 'it.'" So when the Bible uses masculine personal pronouns in connection with pa·ra'kle·tos at John 16:7, 8, it is conforming to rules of grammar, not expressing a doctrine. And in Ancient Hebrew the word here rendered Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, or Spirit which is translated from 'ru'ach' meaning "breath; wind; spirit." In Latin, it is spiritus, and in Sanskrit, 'prana' which means both "breath" and "spirit." And the pertinent definition in the Funk & Wagnalls Standard College Dictionary (ISBN 0-308-10309-2 and 0-308-10310-6) clearly states, (4) <Often Cap.> In the Bible, the creative, animating power or divine influence of God...[etymology-[<Old French, 'espirit' <Latin, 'spiritus' bredth, spirit <'spirare' to breathe]. So we can see it, the Holy Spirit or Spirit is truly God's (YHWH's) active force or power and not a spirit being as are Almighty God (YHWH) and his Son, Jesus (Yeshua).

Now from the study of science and technology we know that with respect a force there can be four possibilities or possibly five applicable questions, which are as follows:

(1) Is it an uncontrolled force?

(2) Is it a controlled force?

(3) Is it controlled, but without feedback?

(4) Is it controlled, but with feedback?

Is it direct or indirect feedback?

However 1 Corinthians 2:10-12 shows it to be a controlled force with feedback that appears to be direct feedback, "But unto us God revealed [them] through the Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11 For who among men knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of the man, which is in him? even so the things of God none knoweth, save the Spirit of God. 12 But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is from God; that we might know the things that were freely given to us of God." (American Standard Version; ASV), clearly showing that the "spirit which is from God," and God "revealed [them] through the Spirit," and uses it to search all things, thus showing it is a controlled spirit capable of feedback. God (YHWH) has complete control over his power or force and can choose its fields of operations as testified to at Romans 8:14, "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God." (ASV) clearly showing he can use to lead individuals and that it belongs to him. And John 16:13 clearly shows it as a force, "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak: and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come." Since it is quite clear that it is a controlled force, "shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak,"

Clearly it is a controlled force used by God (YHWH) to do many things as testified to at Acts 10:19-20, "While Peter was meditationg on the vision, the Spirit said to him, 'There are two men looking for you. 20 Get up and go down, and without hesitation go on with them, for I have sent them.'" (The New Testament by Charles B. Williams); And the fact that it is a closely controlled force is further affirmed at Acts 16:6, "And the Spirit bade me go with them, making no distinction. And these six brethren also accompanied me; and we entered into the man's house:" (ASV); And at Acts 13:2-4, "And as they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 Then, when they had fasted and prayed and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. 4 So they, being sent forth by the Holy Spirit, went down to Seleucia; and from thence they sailed to Cyprus." (ASV); And at Acts 15:28, "For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:" (ASV) clearly indicating direct feedback to and response by God (YHWH); which is further shown by Ephesians 4:30, "And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, in whom ye were sealed unto the day of redemption" (ASV) which once more indicates that is gives direct feedback and it reacts to the feelings of God (YHWH) from which it emanates thus a tightly controlled force or power.” [source - A Commentary covering Acts 10:19-20; Acts 16:6; Acts 13:2-4; Acts 15:28; Romans 8:14; Romans 8:26; Ephesians 4:30; and 1 Corinthians 2:10-12, by Iris the Preacher 2003.]>>>.

As can be seen from the foregoing, the ‘Holy Spirit’ is a force and/or power emanating from Almighty God (YHWH), and NOT a spirit being as are Almighty God (YHWH) and his only begotten Son, Jesus (Yeshua). Therefore, it can not be co-equal, co-eternal, etc. with either of them; hence, there can be NO real Trinity, but only a mythical false one inspired by Satan the Devil as one of his snares to mislead mankind.

NOW THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT THE FATHER, SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT CONSTITUTE A TRINITY:

First, For there to be a trinity of any type, you must have three like entities and in the Bible we do not. As has just been shown, the ‘Holy Spirit’ is Almighty God’s (YHWH’s) active force or power, and NOT a spirit individual.

Second, Colossians 1:15-16, “who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;
16 for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him;” (ASV). This scripture clearly shows that Jesus (Yeshua) Christ is the image of the invisible Almighty God (YHWH), but is NOT Almighty God (YHWH).

Now some may ask in what way is Jesus (Yeshua) “the firstborn of all creation;” Now let’s look at the facts, the reality per John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

<<<” Why is Jesus (Yeshua) called the only begotten Son of God (YHWH) when in reality there are many sons of God (YHWH)? John 1:14 states, "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth." (ASV); And at John 3:16-18, " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God sent not the Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world should be saved through him. 18 He that believeth on him is not judged: he that believeth not hath been judged already, because he hath not believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God." (ASV); And at 1 John 4:9, "Herein was the love of God manifested in us, that God hath sent his only begotten Son into the world that we might live through him." (ASV); now this does not mean that the other created spirit beings were not also God's (YHWH's) sons, as they are also called sons as affirmed at Genesis 6:2, "that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all that they chose." (ASV); And at job 1:6, "Now it came to pass on the day when the sons of God came to present themselves before Jehovah, that Satan also came among them" (ASV); And at Job 38:4-7, "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon were the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone thereof, 7 When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?" (ASV); And at Job 2:1, "Again it came to pass on the day when the sons of God came to present themselves before Jehovah, that Satan came also among them to present himself before Jehovah." (ASV). So what makes Jesus (Yeshua) unique?

He is unique by virtue of his being the only direct creation by Almighty God (YHWH), thus making him different from all others of God's (YHWH's) sons, allof whom were created or begotten by god (YHWH) through that firstborn Son, Jesus (Yeshua). Therefore, Jesus was God's (YHWH) 'only-begotten Son' in a very special sense just as Isaac was Abraham's 'only-begotten son' in a special sense even though he already had a son, Ishamel, but not by his wife Sarah as testified to at Hebrews 11:17, "By faith Abraham, being tried, offered up Isaac: yea, he that had gladly received the promises was offering up his only begotten [son];" (ASV); And at Genesis 16:15, "And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bare, Ishmael." (ASV).

Of course some will say begotten does not mean create, but they never quantify what it means. They have to consider the facts which are (1) the Bible says at Revelation 3:14, "And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God:" (ASV); (2) the meaning of the word create which is "To cause to come into existence; originate" [Funk & Wagnalls Standard College Dictionary, ISBN #s 0-308-10309-2 and 0-308-10310-6, and most other standard English dictionaries]; (3) That humans create by means of copulation as did Abraham in the creation or begetting of his son, Isaac, as shown in Hebrews 11:17 and Genesis 16:15, quoted previously; whereas, the Bible makes no mention of a Mrs. God (YHWH). Therefore, God (YHWH) creates differently, obviously, from man. He always existed as shown at Psalms 90:2, "Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. " (ASV); And at Psalms 93:2, "Thy throne is established of old: Thou art from everlasting." (ASV); and at Job 36:26, "Behold, God is great, and we know him not; The number of his years is unsearchable." (ASV); And at 1 Timothy 1:17, "Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, [be] honor and glory forever and ever. Amen." (ASV). Of course another way of looking at the verb beget is to look at its synonyms and its definition which are (1) To procreate; be the father of. (2) To cause to be; occasion [Funk & Wagnalls Standard College Dictionary, ISBN #s 0-308-10309-2 and 0-308-10310-6, and most other standard English dictionaries]. Now that makes it clear one of its meanings is to cause to be same as for create. If that is not clear enough for some, let's consider the definition of its synonym as given above, procreate which means by definition (1) To engender or beget (offspring), (2) To originate; produce; and at its ethnology from Latin, [- before + creare to create> ] which leaves no doubt that it means to create as does the other synonym, engender which by definition means (1) To cause to exist; give rise to; produce. (2) beget, (3) To come into being; and its ethnology from Latin [- in + genus, generis race] [Funk & Wagnalls Standard College Dictionary, ISBN #s 0-308-10309-2 and 0-308-10310-6, and most other standard English dictionaries].

Of course some critics say that having been created makes Jesus (Yeshua) inferior, but the Bible shows the exact opposite at Philippians 2:1-11, "If there is therefore any exhortation in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any tender mercies and compassions, 2 make full my joy, that ye be of the same mind, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind; 3 [doing] nothing through faction or through vainglory, but in lowliness of mind each counting other better than himself; 4 not looking each of you to his own things, but each of you also to the things of others. 5 Have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men; 8 and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient [even] unto death, yea, the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore also God highly exalted him, and gave unto him the name which is above every name; 10 that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of [things] in heaven and [things] on earth and [things] under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (ASV). Obviously all thinking people should believe the Bible and not accept the opinions of man.” [source - DOCUMENTARY ON OUR SAVIOR JESUS (YESHUA):, by Iris the Preacher, at religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=jesus&thread=1163804424&page=1]>>>.

Of course, Trinitarians say,

<<<” (1) Trinitarians say that “first-born” here means prime, most excellent, most distinguished; thus Christ would be understood to be, not part of creation, but the most distinguished in relation to those who were created. If that is so, and if the Trinity doctrine is true, why are the Father and the holy spirit not also said to be the firstborn of all creation? But the Bible applies this expression only to the Son. According to the customary meaning of “firstborn,” it indicates that Jesus is the eldest in Jehovah’s family of sons. (2) Before Colossians 1:15, the expression “the firstborn of” occurs upwards of 30 times in the Bible, and in each instance that it is applied to living creatures the same meaning applies—the firstborn is part of the group. “The firstborn of Israel” is one of the sons of Israel; “the firstborn of Pharaoh” is one of Pharaoh’s family; “the firstborn of beast” are themselves animals. What, then, causes some to ascribe a different meaning to it at Colossians 1:15? Is it Bible usage or is it a belief to which they already hold and for which they seek proof? (3) Does Colossians 1:16, 17 (RS) exclude Jesus from having been created, when it says “in him all things were created . . . all things were created through him and for him”? The Greek word here rendered “all things” is pan'ta, an inflected form of pas. At Luke 13:2, RS renders this “all . . . other”; JB reads “any other”; NE says “anyone else.” (See also Luke 21:29 in NE and Philippians 2:21 in JB.) In harmony with everything else that the Bible says regarding the Son, NW assigns the same meaning to pan'ta at Colossians 1:16, 17 so that it reads, in part, “by means of him all other things were created . . . All other things have been created through him and for him.” Thus he is shown to be a created being, part of the creation produced by God.

Rev. 1:1; 3:14, RS: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him . . . ‘And to the angel of the church in La-odicea write: “The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning [Greek, ar·khe'] of God’s creation.”’” (KJ, Dy, CC, and NW, as well as others, read similarly.) Is that rendering correct? Some take the view that what is meant is that the Son was ‘the beginner of God’s creation,’ that he was its ‘ultimate source.’ But Liddell and Scott’s Greek-English Lexicon lists “beginning” as its first meaning of ar·khe'. (Oxford, 1968, p. 252) The logical conclusion is that the one being quoted at Revelation 3:14 is a creation, the first of God’s creations, that he had a beginning. Compare Proverbs 8:22, where, as many Bible commentators agree, the Son is referred to as wisdom personified. According to RS, NE, and JB, the one there speaking is said to be “created.”)

Prophetically, with reference to the Messiah, Micah 5:2 (KJ) says his “goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.” Dy reads: “his going forth is from the beginning, from the days of eternity.” Does that make him the same as God? It is noteworthy that, instead of saying “days of eternity,” RS renders the Hebrew as “ancient days”; JB, “days of old”; NW, “days of time indefinite.” Viewed in the light of Revelation 3:14, discussed above, Micah 5:2 does not prove that Jesus was without a beginning.” [source – Reasoning from the Scriptures, p. 408-409 (1989)]>>>.

So we can see from the foregoing, that Jesus (Yeshua) is a created spirit being like the Angels, and was the first of the creation of Almighty God (YHWH); therefore, there could be no valid trinity but only a mythical one. How so? As stated earlier you must have three like things to have a valid trinity and as shown, Jesus (Yeshua) is NOT co-eternal, but had a beginning whereas his Father, Almighty God (YHWH), always existed. So here again is another valid reason that the ‘Trinity’ is but a myth used by Satan the Devil to deceive mankind.

Now what of John 1:1 that Trinitarians try and use to prove the trinity?

THE TRUTH WITH RESPECT JOHN 1:1

First, let’s look at this scripture as it is usually incorrectly translated and see why even a superficial examination clearly shows the translational construct to be WRONG.

John 1:1, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

You can NOT be with someone and be that someone also.

A look at John 1:2 shows, “He was in the beginning with God.” (New American Standard Bible)

This is a most interesting scripture due to where it appears, the first chapter of John. To better understand its significance, we need to also look at John 1:14, "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth." (NASB). This scripture outright declares he, Jesus (Yeshua) had "glory as of the only begotten from the Father" showing clearly two important things, FIRST, his glory had been given to him by his Father (YHWH). This was clearly shown at Luke 3:21-23, " Now when all the people were baptized, Jesus was also baptized, and while He was praying, heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended upon Him in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, "You are My beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased." 23 When He began His ministry, Jesus Himself was about thirty years of age, being, as was supposed, the son of Joseph, the son of Eli," (NASB), SECOND, John 1:14 shows that he was "the only begotten from the Father" and this is also testified to at Revelation 3:14, ""To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God, says this:" (NASB). This is further backed up by Colossians 1:15, "is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation" (NASB). Clearly showing him as a distinct being separate from his Father (YHWH), and the first created by his Father (YHWH).

Some claim that he is just a different manifestation of his Father (YHWH), but John 1:18 clearly shows this as impossible, "No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him." (NASB). And John the Baptist testified, John 1:34, ""I myself have seen, and have testified that this is the Son of God." (NASB), and not God the Son which would have been required if he had been just another manifestation of God (YHWH) instead of being as he is a separate entity or being.

Now, John 1:1 reads in many Bibles, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the word was God." (NASB) which clearly does NOT fit the context of the remainder of John the first chapter. To understand this, it is necessary to realize that John 1:1 can be translated at least nine (9) different ways without violating any Koine Greek grammatical rule. The context of all of John Chapter 1 must be considered, and when it is done in brief, it is easy to see this is NOT the correct translation. Many scholars of Koine Greek feel it should be translated something like, "In the beginning was the Word (or Logos) and the Word (Logos) was with God, and the Word (Logos) was Divine." In fact the two renown Koine Greek experts of today, Jason Benuhn and Folf Fruieli bothe agree with "was divine" or "was a god" rendering. Of course other translate it, as previously, mentioned at least nine (9) different ways of which I have mentioned only three (3) for brevity sake.

But applying the first rule of good translation, if something being translated DOES NOT fit with CONTEXT, the translator is making an error either accidentally or with bias. In this case the error was apparently intentional on the part of translators with a Trinitarian bias who regularly also point to John 10:30, which says, "I and the Father are one." (NASB), but intentionally forget John 10:29, where Jesus (Yeshua) says, "My Fathedr, who has given them to Me, is greater than all: and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand." (NASB). What bias and twisting. But, John 17:5 clearly shows them in error, "and now, glorify thou Me together with Thyself, Father, with the glory which I ever had with Thee before the world was." (NASB). And when he said his Father (YHWH) had given him his followers, "I manifested Thy name to the men whom Thou gavest Me out of the world; Thine they were, and Thou gavest them to Me, and they kept thy word." (NASB). So learn the Truth, and cast off bias translating.

See Part Three of Sequel # 8 to The Trinity, So Called The Central Doctrine of Christianity Is NOT As Billed

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Part Three of Sequel # 8 to The Trinity, So Called The Central Doctrine of Christianity Is NOT As Billed

Second, Let’s look at John 1:1 in quite a different and more technical way.

1 + 1 + 1 = 1 is impossible but is the Trinitarian’s concept of god. But, lets take a univocity approach to translation. Of course a strict univocity approach is not possible in all cases; even those insisting on a strict univocity approach to translation such as the Translation Committee of the New World Translation (NWT), and the great German translator Dr. J.J. Griesbach, both recognize because of the 'fluid' nature of language - content must govern rather than an exclusive univocity approach. Unfortunately, language does not hold to a 1 to 1 equalization all the time as does most parts of mathematics - even in mathmatics there are exceptions such as quadratic equations that can have more than one answer. Even with the part of mathematics that does hold to a strict 1 to 1 equalization - addition - some try and claim an exception. Take 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 as we all know from grade school math, but there are those, as you well know, that claim 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 - clearly an impossibility - only held by Trinitarians. Now we well know that addition is not fluid like language, but Trinitarians try and put an equivocity spin on addition - how ignorant.

For an indepth understanding on the the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, and Jacob, creator of all there is, dishonoring false doctrine of the Trinity, let's look at some facts:

What Are The Differences Between Mainstream Religions and Monotheistic Bible is the Standard Religions?

There has been much contention with respect just what are the REAL differences between mainstream religions and monotheistic Bible is the standard religions. So let's clear the air so to speak and cut right to the chase or basics with respect this question. First, although let's look at the guiding principle for all monotheistic Bible is the standard Christian religions, 2 Timothy 2:15, "Give diligence to present thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, handling aright the word of truth." (ASV).

Now let's consider the real and NOT the hyped differences between monotheistic Bible is the standard religions such as the Christedelphians, the Jehovah Witnesses, the IBS, the Church of Bishop Arius (Norge), the Old Brethren, etc. all reject all doctrines accepted by the Council of Nicea of 325 A.D. and the Council of Ephesus of 431 A.D. <<<”The Council of Nicea of 325 A.D. was called and followed the bidding of a pagan Roman Emperor, Constantine; Whereas most mainline religions accept all or most of the doctrines spewed forth by this council, the monotheistic Bible is the standard religions accept NONE. Now a quote on this council to give all an understanding about it.

"By the third and fourth centuries, Christians were weary of Pagan persecution. The temptation was to compromise. Besides, the Pagan emperor Constantine needed Christians to salvage his shaky empire. Constantine embraced; howbeit only on his deathbed. However, he saw Christianity as a tool he could use to firm up his shaky empire. To this opportunity for political intrigue, and happy blend of politics and people was the chief triumvirate of Roman gods Jupiter, Juno and Minerva. Jupiter was the principal deity of Roman mythology and Juno was the next highest divinity. Minerva, the "offspring of the brain of Jupiter" was regarded as the "personification of divine thought, the plan of the material universe of which Jupiter was the creator and Juno the representative" (26). Many Pagan ideas, in fact, were incorporated into Christianity. "Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it" (*26).

Roman Emperor Constantine needed to make his subjects feel secure if he were to maintain control of the empire; he wanted to rule a unified empire, be it pagan and/or Christian. But first he would have to find a way to end the dispute over the divinity of Jesus-was he a man or God? So he ordered his Christian bishops to meet at Nicaea in 325 A.D. to settle the matter once and for all. To do this, "he made himself the head of the church, and thus the problems of the church became his responsibilities. As a whole the Western Empire with its Roman influence, with some exceptions, had accepted Tertullian and his new theory of the Trinity in the early part of the previous century, but in the East the church adhered more closely to the older formula of baptism in the name of Jesus, or Jesus the Christ. Especially was this true with the Armenians, who specified that baptism "into the death of Christ" was that which alone was essential (*28) .

Now let's see how Constantine got the Trinity. As previously shown, The Roman Empire at this time was being torn apart by religious differences between pagans, mostly Sun God worshippers, and Christianity. Constantine the Emporer was a worshipper of the Unconquered Sun, but he was a very pragmatic individual and saw the need to bring religious unity to his empire. The central doctrine of the pagans was the dogma of a Trinity that they had received from earlier pagans in Babylon (Chaldea). In this, the pagan Emperor, Constantine, saw a possibility for unifying his empire if he could only lead the majority of the Christians to accept a Trinity or a Duality. He knew however that he had to make them think it was their own idea. To this end, he, the Roman emperor Constantine summoned all bishops to Nicaea, about 300, but even though it was the emperor's direction, only a fraction actually attended.

This council went on for a very long time and the emperor worked behind the scene to get support for a Trinity or a Duality. This effort was not completely successful, but finally he got a majority and declared under imperial degree
that this hence forth would be the central doctrinal pillar of the Christian church, which by this time was apostate. Even with this declaration by the emperor himself not all bishops signed the creed. (*29).

So is was the political product of an apostate church, an apostate church that allowed a pagan Roman Emporer, Constantine, to tell it which dogma to accept at the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D., and then have it rammed down their throats as blessed dogma by another Roman Emporer, Theodosius, at the Council of Constantinople in 381 A.D. This in direct violation of God's (YHWH's) word found in the Bible " Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." (James 4:4 AV), " If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." (John 15:19 AV).
Their solution was to create a creed making it illegal for anyone to believe Jesus was not the same as God by inventing the notion of a Trinity. This intellectual tower remained in full force for well over a thousand years, until the Reformation. (*29)." [Discourse on Mainstream Religion by Iris the Preacher, for more information see the starting post on the The Endless Dogmatic Scourge of the World thread.].

Most mainline religions accept all or most of the doctrines that came out of this Council and that of Ephesus with the salient ones being:

The Trinity and its concomitant connected celebrations such as Christmas.
That Sunday is the Sabbath whereas God (YHWH) declared Saturday was [note, this has nothing to do with the day of the week religious services are held].
The ever virginity of Mary which clearly goes against Matthew 1:24-25, "And Joseph arose from his sleep, and did as the angel of the Lord commanded him, and took unto him his wife; 25 and knew her not till she had brought forth a son: and he called his name JESUS." (ASV).
The genius or worship of the Emperor or the state.
That the Bible is not the sole source of truth.
The Mother of God doctrine of the Council of Ephesus in 431 A.D.
The liturgical year of the apostate church.
The superiority of the Church hierarchy over others.[reference - DISCOURSE ON MAINSTREAM RELIGION:, by Iris the Preacher, 2002, at
religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=none&thread=1162919759&page=1]>>>.

Now all of the monotheistic Bible is the Standard Christian groups accept only the written word of God (YHWH) as the ultimate standard with special emphasis on: (all from the American Standard Version; ASV).

John 3:17, "For God sent not the Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world should be saved through him." (ASV)

John 3:3, "Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except one be born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (see also 1 Corinthians 15:50).

John 14:6, "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me".

Matthew 6:33, "But seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."

Matthew 24:14, "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a testimony unto all the nations; and then shall the end come".

1 Corinthians 3:19, "For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He that taketh the wise in their craftiness:"

1 Peter 1:14-16, "as children of obedience, not fashioning yourselves according to your former lusts in [the time of] your ignorance: 15 but like as he who called you is holy, be ye yourselves also holy in all manner of living; 16 because it is written, Ye shall be holy; for I am holy."

1 Peter 4:3-4, "For the time past may suffice to have wrought the desire of the Gentiles, and to have walked in lasciviousness, lusts, winebibbings, revellings, carousings, and abominable idolatries: 4 wherein they think strange that ye run not with [them] into the same excess of riot, speaking evil of [of]: "
Romans 8:14-17, "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For ye received not the spirit of bondage again unto fear; but ye received the spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of God: 17 and if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with [him], that we may be also glorified with [him]. "
Matthew 28:19-20, "Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: 20 teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world."
John 6:39-40, "And this is the will of him that sent me, that of all that which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that every one that beholdeth the Son, and believeth on him, should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day."

James 4:11-12, "Speak not one against another, brethren. He that speaketh against a brother, or judgeth his brother, speaketh against the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judgest the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. 12 One [only] is the lawgiver and judge, [even] he who is able to save and to destroy: but who art thou that judgest thy neighbor?"
Matthew 23:13-23, "But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye shut the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye enter not in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering in to enter. 14 [Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, even while for a pretence ye make long prayers: therefore ye shall receive greater condemnation.] 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he is become so, ye make him twofold more a son of hell than yourselves. 16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, that say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor. 17 Ye fools and blind: for which is greater, the gold, or the temple that hath sanctified the gold? 18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gift that is upon it, he is a debtor. 19 Ye blind: for which is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift? 20 He therefore that sweareth by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon. 21 And he that sweareth by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein. 22 And he that sweareth by the heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon. 23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye tithe mint and anise and cummin, and have left undone the weightier matters of the law, justice, and mercy, and faith: but these ye ought to have done, and not to have left the other undone."

1 John 4:3, "and every spirit that confesseth not Jesus is not of God: and this is the [spirit] of the antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it cometh; and now it is in the world already.

Revelation 3:14, "And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God:
All these monotheistic Bible is the Standard Christian groups reject all the apostate baggage of the Council of Nicea 325 A.D. and the Council of Ephesus of 431 A.D.; whereas, all mainline groups accept most of it. Foremost is the rejection of the Trinity as false doctrine of men, but this in no way means the rejection of the divinity of Jesus (Yeshua). In fact, all these monotheistic Bible is the Standard Christian groups declare this fact and that his Father (YHWH) has given all judging onto his Son, Jesus (Yeshua) as shown by Matthew 25:31-32, "But when the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the angels with him, then shall he sit on the throne of his glory: 32 and before him shall be gathered all the nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as the shepherd separateth the sheep from the goats;" (ASV).

In fact, all criticism of these groups is due to what is stated at 1 Peter 4:3-4, "For the time past may suffice to have wrought the desire of the Gentiles, and to have walked in lasciviousness, lusts, winebibbings, revellings, carousings, and abominable idolatries: 4 wherein they think strange that ye run not with [them] into the same excess of riot, speaking evil of [of]: " (ASV)
In summary, Isaiah 5:20, says it all, "For the time past may suffice to have wrought the desire of the Gentiles, and to have walked in lasciviousness, lusts, winebibbings, revellings, carousings, and abominable idolatries:" (ASV)
Thus the difference between so called mainstream Christian religions is that asking what doctrine or belief one has is a legitimate question as it depends on what the denomination accepts or rejects of the false doctrines adopted at the Council of Nicea and/or of Ephesus; Whereas, it is a defective question when asked of a monotheistic Bible is the Standard Christian groups for whom the Bible is the only standard. To these groups, one should ask what does the Bible say as this is their only theology. They follow Romans 12:1-2, "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, [which is] your spiritual service. 2 And be not fashioned according to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, and ye may prove what is the good and acceptable and perfect will of God." (ASV).

So once more we see there are no three equal entities mentioned in the Bible; hence, there can be no valid ‘Trinity.’ In the foregoing, Jesus (Yeshua) Christ has been shown as subordinate to his Father, Almighty God (YHWH)- of lower authority as he is second in authority in heaven; whereas, his Father, Almighty God (YHWH) is the supreme authority of the universe and first in authority in heaven. How so, Jesus (Yeshua) as a subordinate is always sent by his Father, Almighty God (YHWH), a superior one to do this or that and never the other way around. Jesus (Yeshua) even said all worship belongs to his Father, Almighty God (YHWH), at Matthew 4:9-10, “And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.” (AV); and at John 12:49-50 clearly testified that the words he used were not his but his Father’s, “For I spake not from myself; but the Father that sent me, he hath given me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life eternal: the things therefore which I speak, even as the Father hath said unto me, so I speak.” (AV), and similar statements are found elsewhere in the Bible.

CONCLUSION:

The concept of the ‘Trinity’ is nothing but a snare of Satan the Devil to mislead much of mankind and nothing more. It is without substance.

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