Wrongs of Islam by Amil Amani

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Wrongs of Islam by Amil Amani

A great irony of the age is that the seemingly most diehard proponents of freedom- the useful idiots of our time-are the most dangerous unwitting accomplices of liberty's enemy-Islam. Keep in mind that the very name "Islam" is a derivation of "taslim," the Arabic word for "surrender," surrender to the will and dictates of Allah as revealed by Muhammad and recorded in the Quran.

This non-negotiable surrender to Islam requires the individual as well as the society to disenfranchise themselves of many of the fundamental and deeply cherished human rights. Below is a brief presentation of what this surrender to Islam entails and why it is imperative that all freedom-loving people arise and defeat the menace of Islamofascism.
Amendment I of the Bill of Rights enshrines some of the most cherished ideals of freedom-loving people:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Islam considers itself the three branches of government. It enacts laws as it sees fit, adjudicates laws, and executes as it deems. Islam is anathema to the provisions of the First Amendment and much more.

* Islam proclaims itself as the only legitimate religion for the entire world, grudgingly granting minor recognition to Judaism and Christianity from whom it has liberally plagiarized many of its dogma. Jews and Christians are allowed to live under the rule of Islam as dhimmis and must pay a special religious tax of jazyyeh. Buddhists, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Baha'is, members of other religions, agnostics, or atheists are not even allowed to live practicing their belief or disbelief.

* Islam actively suppresses and even prohibits the practice of other religions, including those of the "people of the book," Jews and Christians. There is not a single church or synagogue in the cradle of Islam, Saudi Arabia, while thousands of mosques dot the tolerating and welcoming non-Moslem lands. Islamic countries that allow for Jewish and Christian places of worship subject these "people of the book" to numberless subtle and not-so-subtle forms of persecution. Moslems in non-Moslem lands proselytize relentlessly and convert others while any Moslem who leaves Islam is judged as apostate and automatically condemned to death.

* Freedom of speech is just about non-existent in Islam. The word is Allah's, his chosen divines such as Ayatollahs and Imams are the only ones who are to make pronouncements squarely-based on Allah's word, the Quran. Any expression in the least at deviance from the Quran, the Hadith and the edicts of Islamic high divines is heresy and severely punishable. Hence, stifling of free expression is the major mechanism by which the Islamic clergy retain power and prevent constructive change in Islamic societies.

* Freedom of the press is completely alien to Islam, since a free press tends to express matters as it sees it, rather than as it is stated in the Quran. To Islam, the Quran is the press and the only press. There is no need for critical reporting, no need to present ideas that may conflict with the Quran, and no place for criticism of anything Islamic. The stranglehold of Islam on the individual and society is complete.

* Peaceful assembly of the people is not allowed. The backward oppressive Islamic societies inflict great hardship on the citizenry and any assembly of the victims presents a threat to the suffocating rule. Islamic governments routinely prevent peaceful assemblies from taking place. Failing to do so, they unleash their hired thugs, the police and even the military against any assemblage no matter how peaceful and how legitimate is its grievance. The Islamic Republic of Iran which is vying with Saudi Arabia as the leader of true Islamic rule, routinely attacks any and all gatherings of its people, arrests them, imprisons them without due process, tortures them, and even executes them in secret dungeons. Journalists, academics, unionists, students, teachers, women rights groups who dare to petition the government for redress are labeled subversive and are severely punished.

* Maltreatment of religious minorities and the non-religious is criminal indeed. In the Islamic Republic of Iran, for instance, the government has launched a systematic program of genocide against its largest religious minority-the Baha'is. The government is gathering a comprehensive list of Baha'is, their occupations, locations, properties and the like-action reminiscent of the Nazis. The government is banning Baha'i students from post high-school education unless they recant their religion, deprives them of engaging in numerous forms of occupations and trades, denies them from holding worship gatherings, razes their holy places and much more. The Islamic Republic of Iran is not satisfied with its cruel treatment of the living Baha'is and has launched a war on their dead by bulldozing Baha'i cemeteries in several cities. Thus is the rule of fundamental Islamism that is awaiting the complacent and snoozing world.

* Oppression of women in general is tragic indeed. Men are allowed to have as many as four wives simultaneously and as many concubines as they wish or can afford. Men can easily divorce their wives and automatically have the custody of the children, if they so decide. Women have subservient status to men in all areas of the law. Equality under the law has no meaning in Islam. Just one example of the dreadful way of treating women in Islam is a case of a Saudi woman who was gang-raped. The Islamic court convicted the woman to prison term and lashes for having committed the "sin" of riding in a car with a male who was not her relative. This is a standard form of Islamic Shariah justice-a savage heritage of barbarism that ruled the Arabian Peninsula some centuries ago.

* Islam has a solution for every "problem." It deals with homosexuals, for instance, by hanging them en mass and gloating about it, even though homosexuality is just as prevalent in Islamic lands as anywhere else. Recently an Ayatollah made a ruling on homosexuals. He said that they should be hanged and tortured before they are hanged. In Islam the rulings of high-ranking clergy constitute the law and are binding.

* Not only Islam does not allow freedom of assembly and the press, it is intrusively restrictive in every aspects of a person's life. The way women should dress, the haircut of men, the music people are allowed, movies to watch, television programs to view, and even parties in the privacy of their home are subject to the ridiculous monitoring of moral police. Islam is hell-bent on outward morality and puritanical conduct while it is rotten to the core just below the pretentious surface.

* Islam segregates by gender many public places and events such as beaches, sporting venues, public transportations, and even building elevators. Families are often prevented from attending a sporting event together or swimming together at a beach.

* Egypt, the crown of the Arab-Islam world, demands that citizens declare Islam or only one of the two other religions, Jewish and Christianity, as their religion in order to receive the government-issued identity cards. ID cards are required for jobs, healthcare, education, a marriage license and a host of other things. If you are an agnostic, an atheist, a Buddhist, a Hindu, a Baha'i, you are forced to perjure yourself to receive the indispensable ID card. In a real sense, Islam the pretender of high moral ground compels people to lie in order to receive what is their birthright as citizens.

I have been sounding the alarm about Islam's imminent deadly threat for a number of years. The Islamic treasury flush with oil extortion money together with the help of useful idiots is having the upper hand in this battle of survival for freedom. The slaveholder Islam has been transformed into a more virulent form of Islamofascism; it is an inveterate unrelenting enemy of freedom. We need to act now and stem the tide of this deadly threat. Tomorrow may be too late. Freedom is too precious to abandon through complacency, acts of political correctness, or outright cowardice." [source - Amil Amani Tuesday, 20 November 2007, at www.amilimani.com on 01/02/2008]

To learn more, check out the following:

[1] religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum

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[3] jude3.proboards92.com/ A Free-Speech Forum For All

[4] www.freewebs.com/iris_the_preacher My web site.

Your Friend in Christ Iris89

[iris89]

Hi Everyone
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One member of Islam made this comment on Amil Amani, even trying to incinuate that he was a Jew, which of course even if true and the indications are clearly that it is not so as can be ascertained by anyone viewing his site, would NOT change the true facts he was writing on per John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (American Standard Version; ASV), This poster said,

Hi thanks for your response and I appreciate it (except for the religious part). Being a humna we have a greater responsibility to take care of each other and keep our minds to God insteadd of killing for the God. It all starts form Moslems kills Christians, kills Jews, kills Moslems, kill Hindus, kills Christians, the bottom line is we all are running in a cricle.

I am living in US since 1995 and so far have not been mistreated, abused or cursed. Ofcourse it depends on you too, if you are a friendly fella who would abse you???

But men are like this, by men I mean all humanity - I prsonally believe that we are running towards doom like hell. Thanks again for yur input and I expect all to share their thoughts with us.

P.S. I don not agree with Amil amani, he could be Jewish, he could have converted to Christianity for money as Nigerians are doing, a man of weak faith has no faith at all.

Now my first reply to this individual that did not bother to check the facts is as follows:

First, You said,

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P.S. I don not agree with Amil amani, he could be Jewish, he could have converted to Christianity for money as Nigerians are doing, a man of weak faith has no faith at all.

It is obvious that you have NOT visited Amil Amani's web site since you would readily see that he most probably was an Iranian Muslim who converted to something or maybe to nothing.

Second, What he posted was simply a very good summarization of facts, most of which I already knew, such as,

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* Islam proclaims itself as the only legitimate religion for the entire world, grudgingly granting minor recognition to Judaism and Christianity from whom it has liberally plagiarized many of its dogma. Jews and Christians are allowed to live under the rule of Islam as dhimmis and must pay a special religious tax of jazyyeh. Buddhists, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Baha'is, members of other religions, agnostics, or atheists are not even allowed to live practicing their belief or disbelief.

and,

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* Islam actively suppresses and even prohibits the practice of other religions, including those of the "people of the book," Jews and Christians. There is not a single church or synagogue in the cradle of Islam, Saudi Arabia, while thousands of mosques dot the tolerating and welcoming non-Moslem lands. Islamic countries that allow for Jewish and Christian places of worship subject these "people of the book" to numberless subtle and not-so-subtle forms of persecution. Moslems in non-Moslem lands proselytize relentlessly and convert others while any Moslem who leaves Islam is judged as apostate and automatically condemned to death.

Apparently you are unaware of a recent case that proves exactly what he said,

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CHANGING ONE'S RELIGION IS NOT TREASON AGAINST THE STATE:

INTRODUCTION:

Worshippers of false god(s) believe in absurdities and do not know the difference between treason against a nation and basic human right to change one's religion if one finds something wrong with his/her present religion. Of course irrational reasoning and irrational acts by worshippers of false god(s) is nothing new. It was first recorded over three thousand years ago in 1 Kings 18:21-29, "And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word. 22 Then said Elijah unto the people, I, even I only, remain a prophet of the LORD; but Baal's prophets are four hundred and fifty men. 23 Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: 24 And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the LORD: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken. 25 And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire under. 26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made. 27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. 28 And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them. 29 And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that there was neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded." (Authorized King James Bible; AV). Notice verses 28 and 29 as some of their descendants are still doing this today. Why? They worship the old middle eastern Moon god who in all likelihood is just the present day evolution of the false god Elijah had to deal with the followers of.

Today, worshippers of false gods still behave and think irrationally, here is a statement by one of them that clearly shows how they mix things up.

<<" Again.... if they Abandon Islam and join in a rebellion to destroy the government or join a GROUP that is working to destroy or cause instability in the government.. yes... they committed treason and should be executed accounting to Shariah. This is Shariah Law. Western powers like the USA also have the same punishment for those who do this.">>

FALSE GOD WORSHIPPERS DO NOT KNOW DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TREASON AND FREEDOM OF RELIGION:

Worshippers of false god(s) do not know the difference between someone committing treason against a government by telling its secrets to others and/or working to cause instability and one simply exercising one's basic human right to change his/her religion because he/she has found error of some kind in his/her present religion. The first, true treason that involves active plotting against the state would be actively prosecuted under the laws of any civilized country such as Canada, the European Union, the United States, India, etc. The second, the basic human right to change one's religion would be actively protected by any civilized country and in fact this basic human right is actively guaranteed under the First Amendment to the US Constitution. Let's look at an actual event recorded in the news that clearly shows worshippers of false god(s) seek to put others to death for exercising a basic human right, i.e., the right to abandon one's present religion and join another religion.

<<" KABUL, Afghanistan - An Afghan man facing a possible death penalty for converting from Islam to Christianity may be mentally unfit to stand trial, a state prosecutor said Wednesday.

Abdul Rahman, 41, has been charged with rejecting Islam, a crime under this country's Islamic laws. His trial started last week and he confessed to becoming a Christian 16 years ago. If convicted, he could be executed.
But prosecutor Sarinwal Zamari said questions have been raised about his mental fitness.
"We think he could be mad. He is not a normal person. He doesn't talk like a normal person," he told The Associated Press.

Moayuddin Baluch, a religious adviser to President Hamid Karzai, said Rahman would undergo a psychological examination.

"Doctors must examine him," he said. "If he is mentally unfit, definitely Islam has no claim to punish him. He must be forgiven. The case must be dropped."
It was not immediately clear when he would be examined or when the trial would resume. Authorities have barred attempts by the AP to see Rahman and he is not believed to have a lawyer.
A Western diplomat in Kabul and a human rights advocate - both of whom spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter - said the government was desperately searching for a way to drop the case because of the reaction it has caused.

The United States, Britain and other countries that have troops in Afghanistan have voiced concern about Rahman's fate.

The Bush administration Tuesday issued a subdued appeal to Kabul to let Rahman practice his faith in safety. German Roman Catholic Cardinal Karl Lehmann said the trial sent an "alarming signal" about freedom of worship in Afghanistan.

The case is believed to be the first of its kind in Afghanistan and highlights a struggle between religious conservatives and reformists over what shape Islam should take there four years after the ouster of the fundamentalist Taliban regime.">>

Even the government of Afghanistan knows that this is utter nonsense, but due to political pressure from worshippers of false god(s) is seeking a politically acceptable way of dismissing this attack against basic human rights. The governments of the United States, Britain and other countries that have troops in Afghanistan have voiced concern about Rahman's fate. Also, Amnesty International and many other freedom loving groups have done likewise.

What does this all prove? As starters, it proves worshippers of false god(s) are very afraid that all will desert these false god(s) if they find out the truth. Second, that worshippers of false god(s) do not give a darn about basic human rights and are against people having freedom, and seek to suppress it. That they mislabel actions to make innocent none inciting items to appear as treasonous when they definitely are not, i.e., one should be accorded the basic human right to worship the way he/she sees fit and to change the way he/she sees fit at anytime.

FALSE CHARGES THAT IN NO WAY FIT WITH REALITY:

Worshippers of false god(s) make the false claim that one exercising his/her basic human rights is committing treason and trying to destabilize legitimate government in Afghanistan. However, the truth of the matter is quite different.

The groups that are trying to destabilize the government in Afghanistan, the Taliban and Al-Quida whose leader is Osama bin Laden are in fact all worshippers of false old middle eastern Moon god, whereas, Abdul Rahman had ceased to be, so let's get a dose of reality here. No Christian, genuine (true) Christian and/or apostate (counterfeit) Christian has sought to destabilize the government of Afghanistan; the ones that have are the Taliban and members of Al-Quida, and these alone have committed treason against the state and should be punished accordingly. However, instead of trying to prosecute those truly guilty of treason, political screwballs, worshippers of false gods, have gone after an innocent man who just sought to practice his new religion and had in no way sought to destabilize the government of Afghanistan; what injustice.

This injustice, clearly shows that many do NOT want to accord basic human rights to others. As Amnesty International and others have said, one should be accorded the basic human right of being able to freely worship and to change his method of worship, religion, as one pleases without interference.

These deniers of basic human rights seek to make criminals out of none criminals, i.e., those seeking to exercise their basic human right to worship as they see fit and to change religion as they see fit. Now let's look at proof of this in the actual words of some who seek to deny basic human rights.

<<"Changing religion is NOT abandoning faith nor is it apostacy (treason) against the Islamic state. One can change their religion and not rebel against the state. in this case they are NOT subject to treason laws requiring the death penalty.

People aren't put to death for changing their religion. They are put to death for apostasy. Two different things in Islam. doof. Changing religions is not punishable... Apostasy is defined as treason after one abandons his or her religion, which is also punishable by death in the USA and other western societies.">>

As you can see, their double talk clearly shows that they regard changing religion as one who abandons his/her religion, i.e., changes his religion, and considers exercising this basic human right as punishable by death. This particular worshipper of the old middle eastern Moon god even extrapolated and said USA and other western societies did likewise which we all know is pure 'crapola.'

Another worshipper of the old middle eastern Moon god said the following 'crapola.'

<<" If you are good you will be rewarded, if you are mediocre you will be rewarded slowly, if you are dumb you will be fired, if you are found cheating on your government or espionaging on your government for some other government, you will be jailed for treason. God has the same formula. Sometime they do get mixed up like Jonathan Pollard was jailed for spying (forwarding US Naval Intelligence to Israel)while employed in US Navy, and had an access to some sensitive US Naval information, and Greenbergs were killed for the same, while a person committing the same crime is elected as President (sorry to give you a political flavour). Thousands and Thousands of people in US alone commit Robberies, Breaking laws, Bank Frauds, committing Rapes, DUIs, Murders, Child Pornography and other crimes, does not mean that US Law has a flaw in it, SO its not the law, but the people are to be blamed. Shariah Law, which is not enforced, although it was meant to, does not mean that it is unfair and based on injustice. You are committing a crime for taking a law which is 1426 years old, looking through it in a modernized way and through Christian eyes, infact these are two different crimes you are committing. Blackening millions of pages carrying false accusations and thus jumping to conclusions, certainly tells us that you do look at Islam with a myopic attitude. I also suggest you buy a key board with a radiator attached, which will not over-heat your keyboard, and cool things down.">>

Now any law, regardless of age, That seeks to deny basic human rights is not only severely flawed, but totally unjust and can serve no good. True crimes committed by people have no bearing on whether a law is good or bad, but this is NOT what is here being discussed; the Shariah Law itself is what in this case is denying basic human rights, plain and simple. It is not looking at anything with a myopic attitude as the Apologist writer of this anti-freedom message alleges, but looking squarely at the basic human right to worship as one sees fit and to change ones worship if he/she finds error in his previous way of worship. It is in no way 'jumping to conclusions' as this individual who seeks to obfuscate the real issue falsely alleges. It is strictly a statement of fact, Shirah Law is a farce since it seeks to deprive people of basic human rights, and any law that seeks to do that is just plain wrong.

Now as you can see, both he and I know what we are talking about. Check it out and wake up and become a genuine (true) follower of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ.

To learn more, check out the following:

[1] religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum

[2] www.network54.com/Forum/403209 A Forum Devoted to Exposing The False Religion of Islam

[3] jude3.proboards92.com/ A Free-Speech Forum For All

[4] www.freewebs.com/iris_the_preacher My web site.

Your Friend in Christ Iris89

[iris89]

Hi Everyone

My next response to this individual was as follows:

Now let's consider another thing that Amil Amani wrote,

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Freedom of speech is just about non-existent in Islam. The word is Allah's, his chosen divines such as Ayatollahs and Imams are the only ones who are to make pronouncements squarely-based on Allah's word, the Quran. Any expression in the least at deviance from the Quran, the Hadith and the edicts of Islamic high divines is heresy and severely punishable. Hence, stifling of free expression is the major mechanism by which the Islamic clergy retain power and prevent constructive change in Islamic societies.

Now let's look at some more facts showing this is true from recent cases,

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Masjed Soleymaani Hastam -
When I came out of prison I burned the Koran! The hell with their hate religion!"


These are the words of a young girl who called from Iran last night and talked on the air with NITV Satellite TV station located in Los Angeles.

"They killed my friend by inserting a baton into the body until it had reached the liver. God is my witness, these are not some tales, these are the realities of our lives in Iran about what they are doing to us! They won't even let us breathe here. The way they mistreatment us, has caused us to even hate ourselves. Although I was an "A" student, I intentionally failed my exam in retribution-law class of mine in the university because I couldn't agree with it. They whipped us if we didn't do the Islamic praying. They wanted me to respect their flag and I didn't want to because it was Arabic. I told them I'll respect the flag if they would put the word "Khoda" (god's name in Persian) on the flag instead of the "Allah" (the Arabic version of god's name). Thus, they lashed me over 70 times. You won't believe what this regime does to us. I was studying to be a judge but they ruined my life just because I held a flag with a "lion and sun" (Iranian ancient and historical flag) in my hand. After all that torturing and flogging, when they finally released me from prison, I burned the Koran. Although I love to have a child, I am not going to have one because I don't want my baby to be dictated their religion."


Some say, Iranians outside Iran are bunch of cowards and heartless who have their tails between their legs when it comes to defend and echo the voices of their compatriots inside Iran. Others say Iranians outside Iran have become heartless mechanical robots since they been neutered (aghim shodeh) by the regime?s supporters and cohorts outside Iran.

But I don't believe that. I believe most my compatriots are unaware of what really is going on in that country and more and more are becoming aware and active. I know every time more of my compatriots hear the outcries of Iran's sons and daughters within Iran such as this, it further awakens them and their conscience. I know soon my compatriots will rise in an unprecedented unity to liberate their motherland, free 70 million Iranian hostages and crush the tyrants and the anti-Iranian Islamic Regime.

If you have problems hearing the audio via your email browser, click on Masjed Soleymaani Hastam

sosiran97.home.comcast.ne...Hastam.mp3
"Doing good to others is not a duty, it is a joy, for it increases our own health and happiness."
-Gatha [sources - NITV Satellite TV station located in Los Angeles, on Masjed Soleymaani Hastam, and [FREE IRAN Project] In The Spirit Of Cyrus The Great, and (in German) Iran/forum/viewtopic.php of Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia' and sosiran97.home.comcast.net/MasjedSoleymaaniHastam.mp3,]

And also what he wrote as follows,

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* Freedom of the press is completely alien to Islam, since a free press tends to express matters as it sees it, rather than as it is stated in the Quran. To Islam, the Quran is the press and the only press. There is no need for critical reporting, no need to present ideas that may conflict with the Quran, and no place for criticism of anything Islamic. The stranglehold of Islam on the individual and society is complete.

Now let's look at some recent events that prove what he said was true,

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Violence, fatwas and online anti-Jew images: a world of protests

The ferocious Muslim protests at the publication of the cartoons in the European press escalated into a global phenomenon at the weekend. The violence appeared likely to intensify despite calls for restraint from some leading clerics. Denmark, where cartoons of the prophet Mohammed first appeared in September, was the main target of arson, threats and calls for an economic boycott.
Syria
On Saturday protesters in the capital, Damascus, set fire to the Danish and Norwegian embassies. The Swedish embassy, in the same building as the Danish mission, was damaged. Protesters also tried to storm the French embassy but were held off by riot police. No diplomats were injured. The Danish and Norwegian foreign ministries advised citizens to leave Syria as soon as possible. Last night the Syrian foreign ministry said it "expresses its regret regarding the violent acts which accompanied the protests and caused material damage at some embassies". [source - Owen Bowcott, Monday February 6, 2006, The Guardian (UK)]

You need to start accepting reality instead of saying another may be a Jew or what ever as that makes no difference if what he is saying is the truth, the reality per John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (American Standard Version; ASV). Now start thinking about becoming a genuine (true) follower of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ

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Hi Everyone

Here was my next response to this individual that did NOT bother to check the facts,

Here is more to consider that Amil Amani wrote which I well know to be true,

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* Oppression of women in general is tragic indeed. Men are allowed to have as many as four wives simultaneously and as many concubines as they wish or can afford. Men can easily divorce their wives and automatically have the custody of the children, if they so decide. Women have subservient status to men in all areas of the law. Equality under the law has no meaning in Islam. Just one example of the dreadful way of treating women in Islam is a case of a Saudi woman who was gang-raped. The Islamic court convicted the woman to prison term and lashes for having committed the "sin" of riding in a car with a male who was not her relative. This is a standard form of Islamic Shariah justice-a savage heritage of barbarism that ruled the Arabian Peninsula some centuries ago.

Now let's look at the facts per John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (American Standard Version; ASV).

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KABUL, Afghanistan - Eleven-year old Gulsoma lay in a heap on the ground in front of her father-in-law. He told her that if she didn't find a missing watch by the next morning he would kill her. He almost had already. Enraged about the missing watch, Gulsoma's father-in-law had beaten her repeatedly with a stick. She was bleeding from wounds all over her body and her right arm and right foot had been broken.
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Child Bride
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Married at the age of four, an Afghan girl was subjected to years of beatings and torture, finally escaping to discover that within all the world's cruelty, there is also some kindness.

KABUL, Afghanistan - Eleven-year old Gulsoma lay in a heap on the ground in front of her father-in-law. He told her that if she didn't find a missing watch by the next morning he would kill her. He almost had already.


Enraged about the missing watch, Gulsoma's father-in-law had beaten her repeatedly with a stick. She was bleeding from wounds all over her body and her right arm and right foot had been broken.

She knew at that moment that if she didn't get away, he would make good on his promise to kill her.

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When I meet her at the Ministry of Women's Affairs I'm surprised that the little girl, now 12, is the same one that had endured such horrible suffering. She is wearing a red baseball cap and an orange scarf. She has beautiful brown eyes and a full and animated smile. She takes one of my hands in both of hers and greets me warmly, without any hint of shyness.

"She looks healthy," says Haroon, my friend and translator. I nod. But she looks older than her years, we both agree. In orphanages - first in Kandahar, then in Kabul - she has had a year to recover from a lifetime's worth of unimaginable imprisonment, deprivation and torture.

In one of the ministry's offices she sits in a straight-backed wooden chair and tells us the story of her life so far. She is stoic for the most part, pausing only a few times to wipe her eyes and nose with her scarf.

Her story begins in the village of Mullah Allam Akhound, near Kandahar.

"When I was three years old my father died, and after a year my mother married again, but her second husband didn't want me," says Gulsoma. "So my mother gave me away in a promise of marriage to our neighbor's oldest son, who was thirty."

"They had a ceremony in which I was placed on a horse [which is traditional in Afghanistan] and given to the man."

Because she was still a child, the marriage was not expected to be sexually consummated. But within a year, Gulsoma learned that so much else would be required of her that she would become a virtual slave in the household.

At the age of five, she was forced to take care of not only her "husband" but also his parents and all 12 of their other children as well.

Though nearly the entire family participated in the abuse, her father-in-law, she says, was the cruelest.

"My father-in-law asked me to do everything - laundry, the household chores - and the only time I was able to sleep in the house was when they had guests over," she says. "Other than that I would have to sleep outside on a piece of carpet without even any blankets. In the summer it was okay. But in the winter a neighbor would come over and give me a blanket, and sometimes some food."

When she couldn't keep up with the workload, Gulsoma says, she was beaten constantly.



Gulsoma's scars

"They beat me with electric wires," she says, "mostly on the legs. My father-in-law told his other children to do it that way so the injuries would be hidden. He said to them, 'break her bones, but don't hit her on the face.'"

There were even times when the family's abuse of Gulsoma transcended the bounds of the most wanton, sadistic cruelty, as on the occasions when they used her as a human tabletop, forcing her to lie on her stomach then cutting their food on her bare back.

Gulsoma says the family had one boy her age, named Atiqullah, who refused to take part in her torture.

"He would sneak me food sometimes and when my mother-in-law told him to find a stick to beat me, he would come back say he couldn't find one," she says. "He would try to stop the others sometimes. He would say 'she is my sister, and this is sinful.' Sometimes I think about him and wish he could be here and I wish I could have him as my brother."

One evening, Gulsoma says, when her father-in-law saw the neighbor giving her food and a blanket, he took them away and beat her mercilessly. Then, she says, he locked her in a shed for two months.

"I would be kept there all day," she says, "then at night they would let me go the bathroom and I would be fed one time each day. Most of the time it was only bread and sometimes some beans."

She says every day she was locked in the shed, she wished and prayed that her parents would come and take her away. Then she would remember that her father was dead and her mother was gone.

But Gulsoma had an inner strength even her father-in-law couldn't comprehend.

"When he came to the shed he kept asking me, 'Why don't you die? I imprisoned you, I give you less food, but still you don't die.'"

But it wasn't for lack of trying. Gulsoma said when her father-in-law finally let her out of the shed, he bound her hands behind her back and beat her unconscious. She says he revived her by pouring a tea thermos filling with scalding water over her head and her back.

"It was so painful," she says, dabbing her eyes with her scarf and sniffling for a moment. "I was crying and screaming the entire time."

Five days later, she says, her father in law gave her a vicious beating when his daughter's wristhingych went missing.

"He thought I stole it," she says, "and he beat me all over my body with his stick. He broke my arm and my foot. He said if I didn't find it by the next day, he would kill me."

She crawled away that night and hid under a rickshaw. When the rickshaw driver found Gulsoma, broken and bleeding, he listened to her story and took her to the police. She was hospitalized immediately.

"The doctor at the hospital who treated me said, 'I wish I could take you to the village square and show all the people what happened to you, so no one would ever do something like this again,'" Gulsoma says.

It took her a full month to recover from her last beating. But the fear and psychological trauma may never go away.

"I was happy to have a bed and food at the hospital," she says. "But I was thinking that when I get better they will give me back to the family."

However, Gulsoma says when the police questioned the family, the father-in-law lied and tried to tell them she had epilepsy and had fallen down and hurt herself. But the neighbor who had helped Gulsoma confirmed the story of her beatings and torture.

The police arrested her father-in-law and "husband." They told her, she says, they would keep them in jail unless she asked for their release.

"Everyone was crying when they heard my story," Gulsoma says.

Gulsoma says she stayed at an orphanage in Kandahar, but was the only girl in the facility. Eventually, her story was brought to the attention of the Ministry of Women's Affairs.



The toll of torture

Gulsoma was then brought to a Kabul orphanage, where she lives today. She takes off her baseball cap and shows us a bald spot, almost like a medieval monk's tonsure, on the crown of her head where she was scalded.

She then turns her back and raises her shirt to reveal a sad map of scar tissue and keloids from cuts, bruises and the boiling water.

Haroon and I look at each other with disbelief. Her life's tragic story is etched upon her back.

Yet she continues to smile. She doesn't ask for pity. She seems more concerned about us as she reads the shock on our faces.

"I feel better now," she says. "I have friends at the orphanage. But every night I'm still afraid the family will come here and pick me up."

Gulsoma also says that when the sun goes down, she sometimes begins to shiver involuntarily - a reaction to the seven years of sleeping outdoors, sometimes in the bitter cold of the desert night.

She says she believes there are other girls like her in Kandahar, maybe elsewhere in Afghanistan, and that she wants to study human rights and one day go back to help them.

As we walk outside to take some pictures, I ask her if, after all she's been through, she thinks it will be harder to trust, to believe that there are actually good people in the world.

"No," she says, quickly.

"I didn't expect anyone would help me but God. I was really surprised that there were also nice people: the neighbor, the rickshaw driver, the police," she says. "I pray for those who helped release me."

Looking directly into the camera, she smiles as if nothing bad had ever happened to her in her entire life.

"I think that all people are good people," she says, "except for those that hurt me."

SUPPORT GULSOMA

The Kevin Sites in the Hot Zone team has set up an email account so that messages of support can be retrieved and forwarded to Gulsoma via a local organization. Click here to email your message.

To learn more about how you can help Gulsoma and other children in need in Afghanistan, click here.

CHILDREN RESPOND

A number of children Gulsoma's age posted messages of support for her. Read the comments here.

Now as you can clearly see, he was right with respect what he wrote. Think about becoming a genuine (true) follower of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ. Wake up to reality.

Your Friend in Christ Iris89

[iris89]

Hi Everyone

Here was my next response to this individual's post who failed to check out reality per John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (American Standard Version; ASV).

Here is more to consider that Amil Amani wrote which I well know to be true,

* Islam has a solution for every "problem." It deals with homosexuals, for instance, by hanging them en mass and gloating about it, even though homosexuality is just as prevalent in Islamic lands as anywhere else. Recently an Ayatollah made a ruling on homosexuals. He said that they should be hanged and tortured before they are hanged. In Islam the rulings of high-ranking clergy constitute the law and are binding.

Islam is schizophrenic with respect homosexuality. On one hand, it executes them as Amil Amani noted and on the other hand, it allows members of Islam to operate one of the largest homosexual sites on the entire internet as follows,

Islam Lets Members Run A Homosexual Site Then Wrongly Labels It A Porn Site:

Let's face it what kind of a religion runs a homosexual site and labels it a porn site - ONLY THE MUSLIM RELIGION.

Let's look at the facts:

I never back things that Almighty God (YHWH) disapproves of like gay marriages, the acceptance of gay men, and lesbians such as Bishop Fred Hiltz of Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island does. You should well know that these things violate Romans 1:21-27, "because that, knowing God, they glorified him not as God, neither gave thanks; but became vain in their reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves: 25 for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due." (ASV). Nor do I agree with the Muslims at GayEgypt who actively promote homosexuality. The "The Middle East Times" says "GayEgypt" has emerged as a key source of information and communication for the gay community in Egypt." It's a shame that the Muslim community as well as the apostate (counterfeit) Christian community tolerate such wrong doing.

Now all should see that Muslims are running a homosexual site and calling it a porn site if anyone referrs to it. One should ask what is wrong with the Muslim religion. Of course, the answer is everything. Let's look at the facts, Islam is a completely deviant religion. How so? It has deviated from the genuine teachings of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ, the Son of Almighty God (YHWH) of which the inspired word of Almighty God (YHWH) says at John 14:6, "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me." (American Standard Version; ASV).

While the Apostles were on earth, there was only one classification of for followers of Christ, but shortly after their departure a great many so called Christians fell away from being genuine (true) followers of Christ and this was foretold to pass at Romans 16:17, " But I beseech you, brethren, to consider those who create divisions and occasions of falling, contrary to the doctrine which *ye* have learnt, and turn away from them." (American Standard Version; ASV). If one did not fall away from the genuine teachings of Christ as did many Christians and all members of Islam, they are not deviants with respect the adhering to the genuine teachings of Christ.

Now Islam has deviated to such an extent that it permits its members to run a major homosexual site in violation of the requirements of Almighty God (YHWH) as given at Romans 1:19-28, " because that which is known of God is manifest in them; for God manifested it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse: 21 because that, knowing God, they glorified him not as God, neither gave thanks; but became vain in their reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves: 25 for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due. 28 And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting;" (ASV).

Islam is so reprobate of mind and so hypocritical that when anyone refers to their members major homosexual site, which of course is a direct violation of the word of Almighty God (YHWH), they say that he/she is referring to a porn site; however, they avoid the salient fact that it is an Islamic site no matter what you want to call it and it is just plain wrong. But of course that is an issue they want to dodge and not face "head on;" whereas, to a limited degree, even the apostate Roman Catholic Church (RCC) is starting to address the homosexual/pedophile problem it has among its priest.

Instead of being honest and addressing the problem, Islam does its utmost to blunt any discussion about it and to penalize any one with the honesty and integrity to bring it up in any way. They do this in many ways such as claiming anyone bring up this major wrong is referring to a porn site, the burning of a small newspaper office in the Gaza strip some years ago that made the mistake of mentioning it, saying that the major homosexual site is a Christian site [which of course it is not], show it to me in the Qur'an [not accepting reality], but never addressing the fact that no matter what you want to call it, a religion should not be letting it members set up and run such a site. But, of course what can you really expect of a deviant religion which does not even want to recognize the reality that Jesus (Yeshua) is the only begotten Son of God per Matthew 27:43, "He trusted upon God; let him save him now if he will have him. For he said, I am Son of God." (ASV). Of course from such a deviant group which has so many members full of hate, greed, and lust for violence inbreed in them by their religious leaders you can not expect much.

The answer to all trying to suppress reality about this deviant situation is as follows:

"The question should be, "Why does a religion permit its members to run a major homosexual site and promote this evil practice which is condemned by Almighty God (YHWH) and then try to dodge the issue by saying others should not mention it because it is a Porn site. Think a minute, is not running a porn site by members of religion just as evil or worse than a homosexual site, and should not this wrong practice be made known to the world."

And,

Now a question for all. Why does Islam rail against homosexuality yet allow some of their members to maintain one of the biggest homosexual sites on the internet. Their defense is always it is a porn site since they are too coward to own up to the fact that GayEgypt is a Muslim homosexual site as I said previously,

I never back things that Almighty God (YHWH) disapproves of like gay marriages, the acceptance of gay men, and lesbians such as Bishop Fred Hiltz of Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island does. You should well know that these things violate Romans 1:21-27, "because that, knowing God, they glorified him not as God, neither gave thanks; but became vain in their reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves: 25 for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due." (ASV). Nor do I agree with the Muslims at www.GayEgypt.com of which the "The Middle East Times" says "GayEgypt.com has emerged as a key source of information and communication for the gay community in Egypt." It's a shame that the Muslim community as well as the apostate (counterfeit) Christian community tolerate such wrong doing.

But they back them, look at the facts which show they always hide from truth,

They ERROR, it is a Muslim site. Check out, www.gayegypt.com/islam.html, which clearly shows it is a Muslim site with a drawing of two Muslim men having love for each other.Also, says,

We apologize but due to a change in editorial policy the articles on Islam are currently only available by email. Please write to Ali Asali at [e-mail] requesting copies of our series of essays on Islam and the life of the Prophet Muhammad from a Queer perspective.

Also, check out this other site,[1] Global Gayz...Gay EgyptToday, there is only one site -- www.gayegypt.com -- left, and it is run from ... Being gay and Muslim is another conundrum for most Egyptian homosexuals. ...www.globalgayz.com/g-egypt2.html - 69k - Cached - Similar pages[2] [PDF] Internet Filtering in Iran in 2004-2005 1File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTMLOur first run of testing found blocking of 39% of sex education sites, compared with ... www.gayegypt.com, www.gay.ru, and gaytoday.badpuppy.com) as ...www.cambridge-security.net/pdf/ONI-iran-country-study.pdf - Similar pages[3] Cultural Struggle Finds Symbol in Gay CairoInternet sites such as GayEgypt.com had taken to describing "handsome youths" ... Gay Muslim groups in several countries have established support groups and ...www.sodomylaws.org/world/egypt/egnews49.htm - 11k - Cached - Similar pages[4] FEBRUARY 2002 - FRENCH PRESIDENT CHIRAC DENOUNCES EGYPT'S GAY ...Already GayEgypt.com and its' satellite site Arab-Men.com are spreading the .... it was alleged that they had run an apartment for homosexual prostitution. ...www.gayegypt.com/january2002.html - 99k - Cached - Similar pages[5] Dissecting Leftism -- Large font siteMuslim against Muslim: "The latest reliable report confirms that on ...... of Terror," while the website GayEgypt.com has dubbed him the "Dr. Goebbels of ...jonjayray.blogspot.com/2005_07_01_archive.html - 379k - Cached - Similar pages[6] Prisoners of Sex"When a Muslim dies, there is a required 30 minutes of prayer," she wrote to ... A Web site called GayEgypt.com called on Egypt's homosexuals to wear red on ...www.whrnet.org/fundamentalisms/docs/issue-prisoners-0612.html - 31k - [7] Popular Pakistani Cross-dresser Pushing Boundaries [Archive ...- [ Translate this page ] Do you or others, specially our Muslim members, would like to find out if this behavior is .... Again, they run this site, they deserve to decide. ...sci.rutgers.edu/forum/archive/index.php/t-63125.html - 45k - Cached - Similar pagesEven GayEgypt's feature articles on their home page clearly show they are Muslim, let's look at their current feature articles:01. Latest Iranian underground porn ! 15/05/0702. A brave woman in Iran fights off morality police 10/05/0703. Shirtless Lebanese hunk Sagat in the carpentry shop.04. Lebanese female impersanator Bassem Feghali at her best.05. "Under the Pale Blue Sky" - two teenagers executed - 19/07/0506. Saudi "shemale" hitches a lift on a motorbike.07. A film about an Egyptian with HIV and his family.08. Sexy clips of Moroccan celebrities09. Egyptian super heavy weight bodybuilder flexes his muscles.10. Two fearless Egyptian girls snogging each other in the street.All from Muslim countries so members of Islam should stop fooling themselves, GayEgypt is without question a Muslim site.

For more information, go to,

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Be sure to check it out and then think about becoming a genuine (true) follower of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ.

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[4] www.freewebs.com/iris_the_preacher My web site.

Your Friend in Christ Iris89

[iris89]

Hi Everyone

Let's look at more facts as contained in my next response:

Here is more to consider that Amil Amani wrote which I well know to be true,

* Not only Islam does not allow freedom of assembly and the press, it is intrusively restrictive in every aspects of a person's life. The way women should dress, the haircut of men, the music people are allowed, movies to watch, television programs to view, and even parties in the privacy of their home are subject to the ridiculous monitoring of moral police. Islam is hell-bent on outward morality and puritanical conduct while it is rotten to the core just below the pretentious surface.

I well know what he wrote to be true from my own experience being brought up in a mixed religion house.

With respect freedom of the press, look how Islam responds to freedom of the press in Denmark,

'Cartoons Infused Muslims With a Spirit of Defiance'
Arab News
JEDDAH, 4 February 2006 - An influential imam of the Grand Mosque in Makkah proclaimed a new spirit of defiance among Muslims after worldwide protests over cartoons denigrating the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in European newspapers.
"A great new spirit is flowing through the body of the Islamic Ummah... The world can no longer ignore this Ummah and its feelings," Saleh Bin-Humaid said while delivering his Friday sermon.
"The nation has worked hard in support of its Prophet Muhammad in recent days. It is the right of every Muslim to show joy at this defense of our beloved Prophet," he told hundreds of thousands of faithful who packed the Grand Mosque.
Bin-Humaid commended the leading role played by Saudi Arabia in campaigns protesting the provocative cartoons. The Kingdom withdrew its ambassador to Denmark, saying the government had not done enough to assuage anger over the cartoons published last September in the Jyllands-Posten newspaper.
...
Flemish newspapers yesterday printed a slew of cartoons of the Prophet, including those published by Jyllands-Posten. "Right for Satire," said a front-page headline in Het Nieuwsblad. An editorial in the newspaper called the outcry over the cartoons an attack on freedom of expression.
[source - Arab News - The Middle East's Leading English Language Daily]

And, Islam is violently against freedom of the press,

Syria voices regret over embassy attacks
DAMASCUS - Syria voiced its regret over attacks against the Danish and Norwegian diplomatic missions in Damascus by angry mobs protesting at cartoons depicting the prophet Mohammed as a terrorist. Crowds stormed the buildings housing two embassies on Saturday, setting fire to both and pillaging the contents of the first-floor office of the Chilean embassy in one of the buildings. "The foreign ministry expresses its regret over the acts of violence which accompanied the protests yesterday, which caused damage to embassies in Damascus," the ministry said in a statement.
[source - AFP via Yahoo! News on 02/05/2006]

And with respect freedom for women, consider what a Muslim professional women in California said,

Arab-American Says Shariah Law Belongs to the Middle Ages Not the Modern Age:INTRODUCTION:An outspoken Arab-American Doctor of Psychiatrist blames medieval Shariah Law for holding back many Muslim countries and declares it concepts, ever in the background, for preventing progress in the Muslim world in a major speech on Al-Jazeera. Doctor Wafa Sultan, a Syrian-American psychologist from Los Angeles, put the blame for lack of progress on a clash between two opposite eras. CLASH OF MENTALITIES BETWEEN THAT OF MIDDLE AGES AND 21 ST. CENTURY:Dr. Sultan clearly stated the clash we are witnessing is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations; but a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21 st. century. It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. She made it clear that it is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. In other words, it is a clash between human rights and rights of women, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on the other hand as witnessed recently in Nigeria and Iran.It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts and use Shariah Law as the justification, and those who treat them like human beings.At that, the Al-Jazeera host then asked: "I understand from your words that what is occurring today is a clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and the ignorance of many Muslims?"Doctor Wafa Sultan answered, "Yes, that is exactly what I mean."In saying this and directly inditing 7/8 th. Century Shariah Law as a thing belonging to the Middle Ages, Doctor. Wafa Sultan voiced truths that many Muslims well know: That their civilization is, in many places, in turmoil, falling further behind the world in science, education, industry, and innovation, while falling everr deeper and deeper into the grips of crackpot clerics, tin-pot dictators, violent mobs and such madman as the likes of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.DEMOCRACY NOT THE CUREALL:Doctor Wafa Sultan made the point that, whereas, President Bush of the US keeps talking about Iraq and the Arab world as if democracy alone is the cure and all that is needed is to get rid of a few bad apples; however, this is an over simplification. The real problem is much deeper-we are dealing with a civilization that is still highly tribalized and is struggling with modernity. Yes, President Bush of the US is right in thinking it is important to assist Iraq become a model where Arab Muslims could freely discuss their real problems, the ones identified by Doctor Wafa Sultan, and chart new courses. His failing or crime was thinking it would be easy.She said, "I do not know how Iraq will end, but I sure know that we are not going to repeat the Iraq invasion elsewhere anytime soon." Yet the need for reform in this region still is desperate and cries out. Yes, nurturing internally generated Arab models for evolutionary reform, and one of the best is Dubai, the Arab Singapore.DUBAI AN EVOLUTIONARY MODEL FOR REFORM:While Dubai is NOT a democracy, and it is not without its warts; yet it is a bridge of decency that leads away from the failing civilization I have previously described, said Doctor Wafa Sultan. It has cast out most of the links to Middle Age thinking and Shariah Law, and leads the way to a much more optimistic, open and self confident society. Dubaians are building a future based on butter, not guns; private property, not caprice; services more than oil; and globally competitive companies, not terror networks. Dubai is about nurturing dignity through success not suicide. As a result, its people want to embrace the future, not blow it up or burn it down.That is why Arab progressives are stunned by our behavior. As an Arab businessman friend said to me of the Dubai saga: "This deal has left a real bad taste in many mouths. I mean this was Dubai, for God's sake! You could not have a better friend and more of a symbol of globalization and openness. If they are a security danger to the US, then who is not?"So whatever happens with the Iraq experiment, but especially if it fails and it well may, we need Dubai to succeed. Dubai is where we should want the Arab world to go and leave the Middle Ages and Shariah Law behind. Unfortunately, the US Congress basically just told Dubai to go to h**l.CONCLUSION:What is so crazy about the current (March 2006) Dubai ports issue is that Dubai is precisely the sort of decent, modernizing model we should be trying to nurture in the Arab-Muslim world. However, we really have never had an honest discussion about either the real problems out there, to wit, a mentality and a law that belongs to the Middle Ages; and a modern mentality that belongs to the 21 st. century. We are seeing a clash between civilization and backwardness, between barbarity and the rational.

Now wake up and think about becoming a genuine (true) follower of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ.

Your Friend in Christ Iris89

[iris89]

Hi Everyone

Here is my last response to this individual that failed to check the facts,

First, Here is more to consider that Amil Amani wrote which I well know to be true,

* Islam segregates by gender many public places and events such as beaches, sporting venues, public transportations, and even building elevators. Families are often prevented from attending a sporting event together or swimming together at a beach.

I well know this to be true having experienced this nonsense in my own family. Also, my good friend from Iran told me that this is true and that they even applied this hogwash donkey dung to her when she is NOT a member of Islam but a Baha'I, she said you could check it out by just driving a little north of Chicago to Wilmette and going to the large Baha'i temple and asking the pastor to show you proof which he will be glad to do. Also, my good friend, Connie from Morocco told me about this discrimination against women many years ago before Muslims murdered her in New Your on 9/11/2001.

Second, Now let's deal with another related item that Amil Amani wrote,

* Maltreatment of religious minorities and the non-religious is criminal indeed. In the Islamic Republic of Iran, for instance, the government has launched a systematic program of genocide against its largest religious minority-the Baha'is. The government is gathering a reminiscent of the Nazis. The government is banning Baha'i students from post high-school education unless they recant their religion, deprives them of engaging in numerous forms of occupations and trades, denies them from holding worship gatherings, razes their holy places and much more. The Islamic Republic of Iran is not satisfied with its cruel treatment of the living Baha'is and has launched a war on their dead by bulldozing Baha'i cemeteries in several cities. Thus is the rule of fundamental Islamism that is awaiting the complacent and snoozing world.comprehensive list of Baha'is, their occupations, locations, properties and the like-action

As I said previously you can check out the facts on this by just driving a little north of Chicago to Wilmette and going to the large Baha'i temple and asking the pastor to show you proof which he will be glad to do. Or you can check it out at the Chicago Public Library's main branch.

Third, The next, you can check out for yourself as I said previously you can check out the facts on this by just driving a little north of Chicago to Wilmette and going to the large Baha'i temple and asking the pastor to show you proof which he will be glad to do. Or you can check it out at the Chicago Public Library's main branch.

* Egypt, the crown of the Arab-Islam world, demands that citizens declare Islam or only one of the two other religions, Jewish and Christianity, as their religion in order to receive the government-issued identity cards. ID cards are required for jobs, healthcare, education, a marriage license and a host of other things. If you are an agnostic, an atheist, a Buddhist, a Hindu, a Baha'i, you are forced to perjure yourself to receive the indispensable ID card. In a real sense, Islam the pretender of high moral ground compels people to lie in order to receive what is their birthright as citizens.

Fourth, Now let's consider another item,

I have been sounding the alarm about Islam's imminent deadly threat for a number of years. The Islamic treasury flush with oil extortion money together with the help of useful idiots is having the upper hand in this battle of survival for freedom. The slaveholder Islam has been transformed into a more virulent form of Islamofascism; it is an inveterate unrelenting enemy of freedom. We need to act now and stem the tide of this deadly threat. Tomorrow may be too late. Freedom is too precious to abandon through complacency, acts of political correctness, or outright cowardice."

Reality is, Islam has always been into slavery around the world, but likes to blame the slavery of Africans in America on apostate (counterfeit) so called Christians who were, Yes, involved in it, but it was only possible in most cases because of Muslim middlemen. Let's look at the facts,

Slavery in Islam - A Look at the Facts:

INTRODUCTION:

Islam likes to charge apostate (counterfeit) so called Christianity with condoning and practicing slavery which of course they did, but turns away from the fact that Islam practiced slavery including Muhammad (pbuh) himself and parts of Islam still practice slavery. Of course, this is hypocritical on the part of Islam marking it as a dishonest false religion that is like an Ostrich who hides its head in sand if it does not want to see something.

It is the only major religion who still practices slavery, this taking place in Africa to day in Sudan and elsewhere. In fact, this situation is very bad in the Darfur section of the Sudan where not only is slavery practiced by members of Islam, but rape by those who are Muslims.

Let's look at the facts today:

SLAVERY - THE FACTS WITHIN ISLAM:

Now let's look at the facts as presented in an encyclopedia.

<<<"The major juristic schools of Islam have historically accepted the institution of slavery[1]; however, in modern time this has become a contentious issue Muhammad and those of his companions who could afford it themselves owned slaves, and some of them acquired more by conquest[stealing them.]. However, the Islamic dispensation enormously improved the position of the Arabian slave through the reforms of a humanitarian tendency both at the time of Muhammad and the later early caliphs. In Islamic law, the topic of Islam and slavery is covered at great length. The legal legislations brought two major changes to the practice of slavery inherited from antiquity, from pagan Rome, and from Byzantium, which were to have far-reaching effects. Bernard Lewis considers these reforms to be the cause of the vast improvements in the practice of slavery in Muslim lands. The reforms also seriously limited the supply of new slaves.

The Qur'an considers emancipation of a slave to be a meritorious deed, or as a condition of repentance for certain sins[but does not require their emancipation]. The Qur'an and Hadith contain numerous passages supporting this view. Muslim jurists considered slavery to be an exceptional circumstance, with the basic assumption of freedom until proven otherwise. Furthermore, as opposed to pre-Islamic slavery, enslavement was limited to two scenarios: capture in war[stealing.], or birth to slave parents (birth to parents where one was free and the other not so would render the offspring free)[sounds like typical slavery].

Slavery in Islam does not have racial or color component, although this ideal has not always been put into practice. Nevertheless, historically, black slaves could rise to important positions in Muslim nations. In early Islamic Arabia, Slaves were often African blacks from across the Red Sea, but by expansion of the Islamic empire in later times, slaves could be Berbers from North Africa, Slavs from Europe, Turks from Central Asia, or Circassians from the Caucasus. The majority of slaves throughout the history of Arabia were, however, of African origin. The Arab slave trade was most active in eastern Africa, although by the end of the 19th century such activity had reached a significantly low ebb. The slavery in the Arab World in the 19th century has been documented by Dr. Christiaan Snouck Hurgronje, an Arabist and a scholar of Indonesian affairs, who had visited Mecca during his journey in the Hijaz. He states in his book Mohammedanism that "Slaves in the Arab world are generally not that different from servants and workers in Europe" and that their masters "handled them with a genial humanity that made their lot no worse - perhaps better, as more secure - than that of a factory worker in nineteenth-century Europe."

It was in the early 20th century (post World War I) that slavery gradually became outlawed and suppressed in Muslim lands, largely due to pressure exerted by Western nations such as Britain and France (although the extent to which it died out and/or flared up again is disputed)." [source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]>>>.

Also, researchers at Ohio State University (OSU) said the following:

<<<" WHEN EUROPEANS WERE SLAVES: RESEARCH SUGGESTS WHITE SLAVERY WAS MUCH MORE COMMON THAN PREVIOUSLY BELIEVED
COLUMBUS, Ohio - A new study suggests that a million or more European Christians were enslaved by Muslims in North Africa between 1530 and 1780 - a far greater number than had ever been estimated before.

In a new book, Robert Davis, professor of history at Ohio State University, developed a unique methodology to calculate the number of white Christians who were enslaved along Africa's Barbary Coast, arriving at much higher slave population estimates than any previous studies had found.

Most other accounts of slavery along the Barbary coast didn't try to estimate the number of slaves, or only looked at the number of slaves in particular cities, Davis said. Most previously estimated slave counts have thus tended to be in the thousands, or at most in the tens of thousands. Davis, by contrast, has calculated that between 1 million and 1.25 million European Christians were captured and forced to work in North Africa from the 16th to 18th centuries.
Davis's new estimates appear in the book Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters: White Slavery in the Mediterranean, the Barbary Coast, and Italy, 1500-1800 (Palgrave Macmillan).

"Much of what has been written gives the impression that there were not many slaves and minimizes the impact that slavery had on Europe," Davis said. "Most accounts only look at slavery in one place, or only for a short period of time. But when you take a broader, longer view, the massive scope of this slavery and its powerful impact become clear."

Davis said it is useful to compare this Mediterranean slavery to the Atlantic slave trade that brought black Africans to the Americas. Over the course of four centuries, the Atlantic slave trade was much larger - about 10 to 12 million black Africans were brought to the Americas. But from 1500 to 1650, when trans-Atlantic slaving was still in its infancy, more white Christian slaves were probably taken to Barbary than black African slaves to the Americas, according to Davis....

"Enslavement was a very real possibility for anyone who traveled in the Mediterranean, or who lived along the shores in places like Italy, France, Spain and Portugal, and even as far north as England and Iceland," he said.
Pirates (called corsairs)[members of Islam] from cities along the Barbary Coast in north Africa - cities such as Tunis and Algiers - would raid ships in the Mediterranean and Atlantic, as well as seaside villages to capture men, women and children. The impact of these attacks were devastating - France, England, and Spain each lost thousands of ships, and long stretches of the Spanish and Italian coasts were almost completely abandoned by their inhabitants. At its peak, the destruction and depopulation of some areas probably exceeded what European slavers would later inflict on the African interior.

Although hundreds of thousands of Christian slaves were taken from Mediterranean countries, Davis noted, the effects of Muslim slave raids was felt much further away: it appears, for example, that through most of the 17th century the English lost at least 400 sailors a year to the slavers.[Islam should return these to England, but has failed to do so or pay England.].

Even Americans were not immune. For example, one American slave reported that 130 other American seamen had been enslaved by the Algerians in the Mediterranean and Atlantic just between 1785 and 1793.

Davis said the vast scope of slavery in North Africa has been ignored and minimized, in large part because it is on no one's agenda to discuss what happened.

The enslavement of Europeans doesn't fit the general theme of European world conquest and colonialism that is central to scholarship on the early modern era, he said. Many of the countries that were victims of slavery, such as France and Spain, would later conquer and colonize the areas of North Africa where their citizens were once held as slaves. Maybe because of this history, Western scholars have thought of the Europeans primarily as "evil colonialists" and not as the victims they sometimes were, Davis said.

Davis said another reason that Mediterranean slavery has been ignored or minimized has been that there have not been good estimates of the total number of people enslaved. People of the time - both Europeans and the Barbary Coast slave owners - did not keep detailed, trustworthy records of the number of slaves. In contrast, there are extensive records that document the number of Africans brought to the Americas as slaves....


"The only way I could come up with hard numbers is to turn the whole problem upside down - figure out how many slaves they would have to capture to maintain a certain level," he said. "It is not the best way to make population estimates, but it is the only way with the limited records available."...

The result is that between 1530 and 1780 there were almost certainly 1 million and quite possibly as many as 1.25 million white, European Christians enslaved by the Muslims of the Barbary Coast. Davis said his research into the treatment of these slaves suggests that, for most of them, their lives were every bit as difficult as that of slaves in America....

Davis said his findings suggest that this invisible slavery of European Christians deserves more attention from scholars. "We have lost the sense of how large enslavement could loom for those who lived around the Mediterranean and the threat they were under," he said. "Slaves were still slaves, whether they are black or white, and whether they suffered in America or North Africa."[source - Research, Ohio State University by Jeff Grabmeier]>>>.

CONCLUSION:

Both apostate (counterfeit) so called Christians and Muslims starting with Muhammad (pbuh) himself were equally guilty with respect the slave trade, yet members point a finger at apostate (counterfeit) Christians without realizing three fingers, maybe four, are pointing back at themselves. This is dishonest hypocrisy on the part of Islam.

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