Post by iris89 on Oct 4, 2008 12:18:36 GMT -5
‘Nut Case” Islamic Conspiracy Weavers Are A Bane To Truth and Reality:
INTRODUCTION:
Unfortunately we have a bunch of ‘Nut Case’ members of Islam weaving all kinds of far out conspiracy theories to try and cover up actions by the cohorts of Muslim religious leader, Sheik Osama bin Ladin. I quite frankly am getting very tired of this nonsense. Here is the actual deceptive comments of one of these ‘Nut Cases’:
<<<”tenang1x 3 hours ago
Hello Again,
Picture of what happening? Pentagon being hit by the plane? (smiling) If you have the video that mean you are the terrorist (smiling) Till today there is no video of an aircraft hitting the pentagon mr genius. (smiling) Read my comments again. I have not talked about the planes that hit WTC yet. I am just beginning the engineering/technical detail on the pentagon 'attack'. Read again mr genius.
So many mistakes you made and so many denials:
1. Soon after the attack FBI came up with living people instead of dead people. This is a very fundamental lies on the FBI part and still you never address this lies although its in your face (smiling)
2. Contradictions in your statement FBI identified the hijackers and later you said DNA study need months if not years.
But as usual you never want to admint your make mistakes. But then again who needs you to admit? (smiling)
Regard ing the WTC and the gold, don't worry the analysis is coming up. I have yet to finish the pentagon side (smiling). Notice that the analysis is so detail. Its not like my friends say this my friends say that bla bla bla. Its all with analysis mr professor (smiling)
To readers, soon I will come up with the analysis on the pentagon side regarding the following:
1. Impossible flight path and maneuver precission
2. Dimension of 757 plane
3. Size of hole on pentagon wall
4. The alleged hijacker pilot that hit pentagon failed flight test on single engine aircraft TWICE one month before the incident
5. The unscratched front lawn of the pentagon building.
6. The consistencies of tomahawk missile strike
7. 5 Pop out of no where lamp posts in front of pentagon
8. Many more...
So readers, its going to get fun. As you can see mr professor, I don't make conspiracy theories and certainly i don't take confession tapes (giggle). I think deep. (smiling) And I say, the WTC part including the gold story, will come after pentagon analysis. You see professor, I don't talk with empty points. (smiling)
Those who wants to see osama's confession tape can do so at the site that the author gave. For detail analysis, you can choose to follow my future post. And mr professor, I don't really care if you want to avoid the 9/11 detail analysis. Its not for the shallows anyway. (giggle)
Stay tuned....” [source - new.scribd.com/doc/6361951/Spanish-Tomato-Casserole on 10/04/2008 in a comment made on an article “How to make Spanish Tomato Casserole” ]
Many in Islam are irrationally insane as proven by the activities of just one on Scribd, and educational resource out on the World Wide Web. In this article, I will clearly show how irrationally insane some members of Islam are, and how they can NOT distinguish between reality and silly conspiracy theories.
But this is to be expected considering their irrationally insanity over silly innocuous cartoons when it deals with them, but feel it is absolutely okay to make very nasty cartoons about the Jews and others, i.e., the Muslim concept, we should be able to throw stones at others (cartoons), but they should not throw stones at us (cartoons). This of course is irrationally insane behavior and thinking.
And the silly conspiracy theories such this ‘Nut Case’ above. Notice, just like the typical idiot in cartoons he adds a (giggle). Now we shall look at reality.
Evidence That A Boeing 757 Really Did Impact the Pentagon on 9/11
The 757-200
As we can see from the freely available information for the Boeing 757 (from the Boeing website). The 757 is a midsized commercial airliner designed for short haul and medium haul routes (Medium Range Transport (MR-TR)), although since its release, and the subsequent discovery of the Wake Vortex it leaves behind the FAA has classified the 757 as a "Heavy" aircraft; the FAA places the 757 in the Geometric Design Classification IV, and an ATC Operation Class C. (source)
The 757-200 dimensions:
Tail Height: 44 ft 6 in (13.6m)
Length: 155 ft 3 in (47.32m)
Wingspan: 124 ft 10 in (38.05m)
Body Exterior Width: 12 ft 4 in (3.7m)
Fuel Capacity: 11,489 us gal (43,490l / 43,490kg)
Maximum Takeoff weight: 255,000lb (115,680kg)
Typical Cruise Speed: 0.80 Mach (573.6mph / 956kmh)
Engines used on a 757: Two 166.4kN (37,400lb) Rolls-Royce RB211-535C turbofans, or 178.8kN (40,200lb) RB211-535E4s, or 193.5kN (43,500lb) RB211-535E4-Bs, or 162.8kN (36,600lb) Pratt & Whitney PW2037s, or two 178.4kN (40,100lb) PW2040s, or 189.5kN (42,600lb) PW2043s. (source1)www.flybernhard.de..." target="_blank" class="postlink"> (source2)
Auxiliary Power Unit: Honeywell GTCP331-200
The Pentagon
The Pentagon was designed in the early 40's and was completed in only 16 months on Jan 14, 1943. The shortages of materials required for war production raised many design and construction problems. The use of reinforced concrete in lieu of formed steel for the building made possible a saving of 43,000 tons of steel, more than enough to build a battleship. The use of concrete ramps rather than elevators further reduced steel requirements. Drainage pipes were concrete; ducts were fiber, interior doors were wood. An unusual wall design - concrete spandrels carried to window sill level - eliminated many miles of through-wall copper flashing.(Source1) (Source2)
...The exterior walls had been reinforced with steel beams and columns, bolted where they met at each floor. Some of these reinforced walls very near the point of impact remained in place for a half hour before collapsing, allowing uncounted hundreds to escape. "Had we not undertaken this effort," said Evey at a press briefing on September 15, "this could have been much, much worse."
...Looking At the Big Picture
From facts contained above, we can all agree that:
The length of the outside wall on any side of the pentagon is 921 feet.
The wingspan of a 757 is 124 feet 10 inches.
Now, everyone can agree that 921/125= roughly 7.4 right?
Given the size of the 757, and the size of the Pentagon, the damaged area fits in peftectly with the dimensions of both the aircraft and the building...
Here is the hole in the building - it's been reported by at least a dozen different sources (including conspiracy theory sites) to be a 16 to 20 foot hole. That is really interesting when you take into account the fact that the 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. (Here is where I was mistaken in the past, like so very many others I was led astray by the HEIGHT of the aircraft, which is actually the measurement from the wheels-down to the tip of the tail. That measurement is for aircraft hangar clearance, not the SIZE of the aircraft.) The 757 is basically a cylinder that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it would create something around a thirteen foot hole in the side of the building...
Rim found at scene was double bead design as required by the NTSB. Other remains of the plane were also found, such as a large chunk of the bulkhead, a tire of type used on this type of plane, Aux Power Unit, the 'Black Box', etc.
...In layman's terms the crash dynamics worked like so: A large hollow tube, with a belly full of luggage, a passenger bay with 60 people, and wings full of fuel smashed into the side of an almost solid object while moving at a tremendous speed (somewhere around 350-400mph). When the 225,000lb+ plane hit, it smashed apart with such force from the crash that it became like one massive column of liquid (no, the plane didn't melt or turn into liquid, it just acted like one physically - mountainslides act the same way, a million tons of rock acts like a large field of liquid during a landslide even if no water is present). All the small parts, luggage, people, seats, and all the tens of thousands of pounds of fuel acting like a massive river came crashing into the wall of the Pentagon. This force burst through the outside wall and flowed through the inside to the next wall, and momentum carried this mass until it finally ran out of inertia at the 3rd ring.
"Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that?" Nobody could believe it.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001
"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002
"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002
"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001
"Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,' he said."
- "Hell on Earth." UU World, Jan/Feb 20
"We were the only people, we think, who saw it live," Dan Creed said. He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said. "I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," - Ahwatukee Foothill News
There are many more eyewitness accounts, but this is more than ample to blow away all the dumb conspiracy theories that 'nut cases' come up with. Why do they come up with them? For many reasons such as a wild imagination, not willing to accept reality - the facts, some are just clear out 'nut cases,' some want a little publicity, etc.
[source for much of this information is - www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 in an article "9/11: A Boeing757 Struck the Pentagon," ]
CONCLUSION:
A Boeing 757 being piloted by suicidal cohorts of a Muslim religious leader, Sheik Osama bin Ladin, and under his direction, struck the Pentagon.
What is needed is for all to become genuine true followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ.
To learn more, check out the following:
[1] religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum
[2] www.network54.com/Forum/403209 A Forum Devoted to Exposing The False Religion of Islam
[3] jude3.proboards92.com/ A Free-Speech Forum For All
[4] www.freewebs.com/iris_the_preacher My web site.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89
INTRODUCTION:
Unfortunately we have a bunch of ‘Nut Case’ members of Islam weaving all kinds of far out conspiracy theories to try and cover up actions by the cohorts of Muslim religious leader, Sheik Osama bin Ladin. I quite frankly am getting very tired of this nonsense. Here is the actual deceptive comments of one of these ‘Nut Cases’:
<<<”tenang1x 3 hours ago
Hello Again,
Picture of what happening? Pentagon being hit by the plane? (smiling) If you have the video that mean you are the terrorist (smiling) Till today there is no video of an aircraft hitting the pentagon mr genius. (smiling) Read my comments again. I have not talked about the planes that hit WTC yet. I am just beginning the engineering/technical detail on the pentagon 'attack'. Read again mr genius.
So many mistakes you made and so many denials:
1. Soon after the attack FBI came up with living people instead of dead people. This is a very fundamental lies on the FBI part and still you never address this lies although its in your face (smiling)
2. Contradictions in your statement FBI identified the hijackers and later you said DNA study need months if not years.
But as usual you never want to admint your make mistakes. But then again who needs you to admit? (smiling)
Regard ing the WTC and the gold, don't worry the analysis is coming up. I have yet to finish the pentagon side (smiling). Notice that the analysis is so detail. Its not like my friends say this my friends say that bla bla bla. Its all with analysis mr professor (smiling)
To readers, soon I will come up with the analysis on the pentagon side regarding the following:
1. Impossible flight path and maneuver precission
2. Dimension of 757 plane
3. Size of hole on pentagon wall
4. The alleged hijacker pilot that hit pentagon failed flight test on single engine aircraft TWICE one month before the incident
5. The unscratched front lawn of the pentagon building.
6. The consistencies of tomahawk missile strike
7. 5 Pop out of no where lamp posts in front of pentagon
8. Many more...
So readers, its going to get fun. As you can see mr professor, I don't make conspiracy theories and certainly i don't take confession tapes (giggle). I think deep. (smiling) And I say, the WTC part including the gold story, will come after pentagon analysis. You see professor, I don't talk with empty points. (smiling)
Those who wants to see osama's confession tape can do so at the site that the author gave. For detail analysis, you can choose to follow my future post. And mr professor, I don't really care if you want to avoid the 9/11 detail analysis. Its not for the shallows anyway. (giggle)
Stay tuned....” [source - new.scribd.com/doc/6361951/Spanish-Tomato-Casserole on 10/04/2008 in a comment made on an article “How to make Spanish Tomato Casserole” ]
Many in Islam are irrationally insane as proven by the activities of just one on Scribd, and educational resource out on the World Wide Web. In this article, I will clearly show how irrationally insane some members of Islam are, and how they can NOT distinguish between reality and silly conspiracy theories.
But this is to be expected considering their irrationally insanity over silly innocuous cartoons when it deals with them, but feel it is absolutely okay to make very nasty cartoons about the Jews and others, i.e., the Muslim concept, we should be able to throw stones at others (cartoons), but they should not throw stones at us (cartoons). This of course is irrationally insane behavior and thinking.
And the silly conspiracy theories such this ‘Nut Case’ above. Notice, just like the typical idiot in cartoons he adds a (giggle). Now we shall look at reality.
Evidence That A Boeing 757 Really Did Impact the Pentagon on 9/11
The 757-200
As we can see from the freely available information for the Boeing 757 (from the Boeing website). The 757 is a midsized commercial airliner designed for short haul and medium haul routes (Medium Range Transport (MR-TR)), although since its release, and the subsequent discovery of the Wake Vortex it leaves behind the FAA has classified the 757 as a "Heavy" aircraft; the FAA places the 757 in the Geometric Design Classification IV, and an ATC Operation Class C. (source)
The 757-200 dimensions:
Tail Height: 44 ft 6 in (13.6m)
Length: 155 ft 3 in (47.32m)
Wingspan: 124 ft 10 in (38.05m)
Body Exterior Width: 12 ft 4 in (3.7m)
Fuel Capacity: 11,489 us gal (43,490l / 43,490kg)
Maximum Takeoff weight: 255,000lb (115,680kg)
Typical Cruise Speed: 0.80 Mach (573.6mph / 956kmh)
Engines used on a 757: Two 166.4kN (37,400lb) Rolls-Royce RB211-535C turbofans, or 178.8kN (40,200lb) RB211-535E4s, or 193.5kN (43,500lb) RB211-535E4-Bs, or 162.8kN (36,600lb) Pratt & Whitney PW2037s, or two 178.4kN (40,100lb) PW2040s, or 189.5kN (42,600lb) PW2043s. (source1)www.flybernhard.de..." target="_blank" class="postlink"> (source2)
Auxiliary Power Unit: Honeywell GTCP331-200
The Pentagon
The Pentagon was designed in the early 40's and was completed in only 16 months on Jan 14, 1943. The shortages of materials required for war production raised many design and construction problems. The use of reinforced concrete in lieu of formed steel for the building made possible a saving of 43,000 tons of steel, more than enough to build a battleship. The use of concrete ramps rather than elevators further reduced steel requirements. Drainage pipes were concrete; ducts were fiber, interior doors were wood. An unusual wall design - concrete spandrels carried to window sill level - eliminated many miles of through-wall copper flashing.(Source1) (Source2)
...The exterior walls had been reinforced with steel beams and columns, bolted where they met at each floor. Some of these reinforced walls very near the point of impact remained in place for a half hour before collapsing, allowing uncounted hundreds to escape. "Had we not undertaken this effort," said Evey at a press briefing on September 15, "this could have been much, much worse."
...Looking At the Big Picture
From facts contained above, we can all agree that:
The length of the outside wall on any side of the pentagon is 921 feet.
The wingspan of a 757 is 124 feet 10 inches.
Now, everyone can agree that 921/125= roughly 7.4 right?
Given the size of the 757, and the size of the Pentagon, the damaged area fits in peftectly with the dimensions of both the aircraft and the building...
Here is the hole in the building - it's been reported by at least a dozen different sources (including conspiracy theory sites) to be a 16 to 20 foot hole. That is really interesting when you take into account the fact that the 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. (Here is where I was mistaken in the past, like so very many others I was led astray by the HEIGHT of the aircraft, which is actually the measurement from the wheels-down to the tip of the tail. That measurement is for aircraft hangar clearance, not the SIZE of the aircraft.) The 757 is basically a cylinder that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it would create something around a thirteen foot hole in the side of the building...
Rim found at scene was double bead design as required by the NTSB. Other remains of the plane were also found, such as a large chunk of the bulkhead, a tire of type used on this type of plane, Aux Power Unit, the 'Black Box', etc.
...In layman's terms the crash dynamics worked like so: A large hollow tube, with a belly full of luggage, a passenger bay with 60 people, and wings full of fuel smashed into the side of an almost solid object while moving at a tremendous speed (somewhere around 350-400mph). When the 225,000lb+ plane hit, it smashed apart with such force from the crash that it became like one massive column of liquid (no, the plane didn't melt or turn into liquid, it just acted like one physically - mountainslides act the same way, a million tons of rock acts like a large field of liquid during a landslide even if no water is present). All the small parts, luggage, people, seats, and all the tens of thousands of pounds of fuel acting like a massive river came crashing into the wall of the Pentagon. This force burst through the outside wall and flowed through the inside to the next wall, and momentum carried this mass until it finally ran out of inertia at the 3rd ring.
"Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly then strike a western wall of the huge five-sided building that is the headquarters of the nation's military. 'There was a big boom,' he said. 'Everybody was in shock. I turned around to the car behind me and yelled "Did you see that?" Nobody could believe it.'"
- "Bush Vows Retaliation for 'Evil Acts'." USA Today, 11 Sep 2001
"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002
"Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, he suddenly saw a commercial airliner crest the hilltop Navy Annex. American Airlines Flight 77 reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine."
- "A Defiant Recovery." The Retired Officer Magazine, January 2002
"Afework Hagos, a computer programmer, was on his way to work but stuck in a traffic jam near the Pentagon when the plane flew over. 'There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in.'"
- "Pentagon Eyewitness Accounts." The Guardian, 12 Sep 2001
"Henry Ticknor, intern minister at the Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, Virginia, was driving to church that Tuesday morning when American Airlines Flight 77 came in fast and low over his car and struck the Pentagon. 'There was a puff of white smoke and then a huge billowing black cloud,' he said."
- "Hell on Earth." UU World, Jan/Feb 20
"We were the only people, we think, who saw it live," Dan Creed said. He and two colleagues from Oracle software were stopped in a car near the Naval Annex, next to the Pentagon, when they saw the plane dive down and level off. "It was no more than 30 feet off the ground, and it was screaming. It was just screaming. It was nothing more than a guided missile at that point," Creed said. "I can still see the plane. I can still see it right now. It's just the most frightening thing in the world, going full speed, going full throttle, its wheels up," - Ahwatukee Foothill News
There are many more eyewitness accounts, but this is more than ample to blow away all the dumb conspiracy theories that 'nut cases' come up with. Why do they come up with them? For many reasons such as a wild imagination, not willing to accept reality - the facts, some are just clear out 'nut cases,' some want a little publicity, etc.
[source for much of this information is - www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1 in an article "9/11: A Boeing757 Struck the Pentagon," ]
CONCLUSION:
A Boeing 757 being piloted by suicidal cohorts of a Muslim religious leader, Sheik Osama bin Ladin, and under his direction, struck the Pentagon.
What is needed is for all to become genuine true followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ.
To learn more, check out the following:
[1] religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum
[2] www.network54.com/Forum/403209 A Forum Devoted to Exposing The False Religion of Islam
[3] jude3.proboards92.com/ A Free-Speech Forum For All
[4] www.freewebs.com/iris_the_preacher My web site.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89