Post by iris89 on Oct 27, 2008 13:38:46 GMT -5
God’s Active Force – The Holy Spirit:
A Commentary covering Acts 10:19-20; Acts 16:6; Acts 13:2-4; Acts 15:28; Romans 8:14; Romans 8:26; Ephesians 4:30; and 1 Corinthians 2:10-12 that will show that the Spirit or Holy Spirit is God's (YHWH's) active force or power and emanates from him and is a force completely controlled by him, and is capable of giving him feedback and gathering for him information.
But first let's see why the Spirit is indeed God's (YHWH's) active force or power from an understanding of the ancient word 'pneu'ma' translated Spirit or Holy Spirit in English. The neuter Koine Greek word for spirit (pneu'ma) is used with the neuter pronoun "it" since it is lacks gender. This fact is conveniently over looked or hidden by most Trinitarian translators of the Bible as admitted in the "New American Bible Catholic Bible," regarding John 14:17: "The Greek word for 'Spirit' is neuter, and while we use personal pronouns in English ('he,' 'his,' 'him'), most Greek MSS [manuscripts] employ 'it.'" So when the Bible uses masculine personal pronouns in connection with pa•ra'kle•tos at John 16:7, 8, it is conforming to rules of grammar, not expressing a doctrine. And in Ancient Hebrew the word here rendered Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, or Spirit which is translated from 'ru'ach' meaning "breath; wind; spirit." In Latin, it is spiritus, and in Sanskrit, 'prana' which means both "breath" and "spirit." And the pertinent definition in the Funk & Wagnalls Standard College Dictionary (ISBN 0-308-10309-2 and 0-308-10310-6) clearly states, (4) <Often Cap.> In the Bible, the creative, animating power or divine influence of God...[etymology-[<Old French, 'espirit' <Latin, 'spiritus' bredth, spirit <'spirare' to breathe]. So we can see it, the Holy Spirit or Spirit is truly God's (YHWH's) active force or power and not a spirit being as are Almighty God (YHWH) and his Son, Jesus (Yeshua).
Now from the study of science and technology we know that with respect a force there can be four possibilities or possibly five applicable questions, which are as follows:
(1) Is it an uncontrolled force?
(2) Is it a controlled force?
(3) Is it controlled, but without feedback?
(4) Is it controlled, but with feedback?
Is it direct or indirect feedback?
However 1 Corinthians 2:10-12 shows it to be a controlled force with feedback that appears to be direct feedback, "But unto us God revealed [them] through the Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11 For who among men knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of the man, which is in him? even so the things of God none knoweth, save the Spirit of God. 12 But we received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is from God; that we might know the things that were freely given to us of God." (American Standard Version; ASV), clearly showing that the "spirit which is from God," and God "revealed [them] through the Spirit," and uses it to search all things, thus showing it is a controlled spirit capable of feedback. God (YHWH) has complete control over his power or force and can choose its fields of operations as testified to at Romans 8:14, "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God." (ASV) clearly showing he can use to lead individuals and that it belongs to him. And John 16:13 clearly shows it as a force, "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he shall guide you into all the truth: for he shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak: and he shall declare unto you the things that are to come." Since it is quite clear that it is a controlled force, "shall not speak from himself; but what things soever he shall hear, these shall he speak,"
Clearly it is a controlled force used by God (YHWH) to do many things as testified to at Acts 10:19-20, "While Peter was meditationg on the vision, the Spirit said to him, 'There are two men looking for you. 20 Get up and go down, and without hesitation go on with them, for I have sent them.'" (The New Testament by Charles B. Williams); And the fact that it is a closely controlled force is further affirmed at Acts 16:6, "And the Spirit bade me go with them, making no distinction. And these six brethren also accompanied me; and we entered into the man's house:" (ASV); And at Acts 13:2-4, "And as they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 Then, when they had fasted and prayed and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. 4 So they, being sent forth by the Holy Spirit, went down to Seleucia; and from thence they sailed to Cyprus." (ASV); And at Acts 15:28, "For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things:" (ASV) clearly indicating direct feedback to and response by God (YHWH); which is further shown by Ephesians 4:30, "And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, in whom ye were sealed unto the day of redemption" (ASV) which once more indicates that is gives direct feedback and it reacts to the feelings of God (YHWH) from which it emanates thus a tightly controlled force or power.
APPENDIX:
[1] The following should answer the question of God's active force. SO
THERE ARE LEXICONS AND SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES WHICH SO DESCRIBE HOLY
SPIRIT AS GOD'S ACTIVE FORCE. Genesis 1:2 in every Bible at least on
Bible gateway mentions Gods Spirit was hovering or moving to a
fro,brooding over the face of the waters.
*** it-2 p. 1017 Spirit ***
The Greek pneu´ma (spirit) comes from pne´o, meaning "breathe or
blow," and the Hebrew ru´ach (spirit) is believed to come from a root
having the same meaning. Ru´ach and pneu´ma, then, basically
mean "breath" but have extended meanings beyond that basic sense.
(Compare Hab 2:19; Re 13:15.) They can also mean wind; the vital
force in living creatures; one's spirit; spirit persons, including
God and his angelic creatures; and God's active force, or holy
spirit. (Compare Koehler and Baumgartner's Lexicon in Veteris
Testamenti Libros, Leiden, 1958, pp. 877-879; Brown, Driver, and
Briggs' Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament, 1980, pp.
924-926; Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, edited by
G. Friedrich, translated by G. Bromiley, 1971, Vol. VI, pp. 332-451.)
All these meanings have something in common: They all refer to that
which is invisible to human sight and which gives evidence of force
in motion. Such invisible force is capable of producing visible
effects.
AND THIS SHOULD ANSWER THE OTHER QUESTIONS
*** it-2 p. 1018 Spirit ***
Spirit Persons. God is invisible to human eyes (Ex 33:20; Joh 1:18;
1Ti 1:17), and he is alive and exercises unsurpassed force throughout
the universe. (2Co 3:3; Isa 40:25-31) Christ Jesus states: "God is a
Spirit [Pneu´ma]." The apostle writes: "Now Jehovah is the Spirit."
(Joh 4:24; 2Co 3:17, 18) The temple built on Christ as foundation
cornerstone is "a place for God to inhabit by spirit."-Eph 2:22.
This does not mean that God is an impersonal, bodiless force like the
wind. The Scriptures unmistakably testify to his personality; he also
has location so that Christ could speak of `going to his Father,'
this in order that he might "appear before the person of God
[literally, "face of God"] for us."-Joh 16:28; Heb 9:24; compare 1Ki
8:43; Ps 11:4; 113:5, 6; see JEHOVAH (The Person Identified by the
Name).
The _expression "my spirit" (ru•chi´) used by God at Genesis 6:3 may
mean "I the Spirit," even as his use of "my soul" (naph•shi´) has the
sense of "I the person," or "my person." (Isa 1:14; see SOUL [God as
Having Soul].) He thereby contrasts his heavenly spiritual position
with that of earthly, fleshly man.
God's Son. God's "only-begotten son," the Word, was a spirit person
like his Father, hence "existing in God's form" (Php 2:5-8), but
later "became flesh," residing among mankind as the man Jesus. (Joh
1:1, 14) Completing his earthly course, he was "put to death in the
flesh, but [was] made alive in the spirit." (1Pe 3:18) His Father
resurrected him, granted his Son's request to be glorified alongside
the Father with the glory he had had in his prehuman state (Joh
17:4, 5), and God made him "a life-giving spirit." (1Co 15:45) The
Son thus became again invisible to human sight, dwelling "in
unapproachable light, whom not one of men has seen or can see."-1Ti
6:14-16.
About 1 corithians 15:27 Jesus turns the kingdom back over to his
God and father. It is common sense, evident, natural, PLAIN that
Jesus HAS NOT AND NEVER WILL HAVE IN SUBJECTION HIS GOD AND FATHER
THE ONE WHO SUBJECTED ALL THINGS TO JESUS. THE ONE DOING THE
SUBJECTING TO AND GIVING TO IS ALWAYS GREATER.
About Belshazzar the word is coregent with Nebonidas. Jehovah is
the universal soveriegn of the universe and he has given his loyal
son Jesus to be ruler of the Messianic Kingdom.
About the conventants in the Bible, It doen't appear that you
know too much about a very important aspect of the Bible and that is
the various covenants. I can suggest that you study the Bible with
Jehovah's Witnesses to learn more. Yes Jesus humaness (I don't know
if that is a word or not) is shown in a lot of scriptures, but only
while he was on earth, in human form. The above information should
clear up your confusion concerning the bodies that were used directly
after his resurrection.
[2] ***The Watchtower of April 15, 1963, (pp. 237, 238)***
Just suppose that Jesus has his earthly human body in heaven. Since
clergymen who insist that Jesus has his human body in heaven teach that he is also God himself, then we know what God looks like. He
looks like Jesus when down on earth; he is possibly six feet tall,
has a Jewish nose, possibly a beard, has man's sex organs, and seems
to weigh two hundred pounds. . . . If Jesus had his human body in
heaven, then he has the entire digestive system, including the mouth
and the stomach; and his faithful disciples, on going to heaven,
would have the same things. . . . Think of it! Since the arrival of
human bodies, there now have to be draught houses in heaven,
toilets, both private and public, with separate ones for men and
women. And now and forever Jesus, who the clergymen say is very God
himself, has to use a heavenly toilet, something that he never had
to do in heaven before he became a man! (1 Ki. 18:27) This has to be
true if we carry arguments to their logical conclusions!
[3] Count Nouns and Mass Nouns
A Count Noun is one that can be pluralized and separable. In other
words, it can be counted. Tiger for instance, is a Count Noun. A
Mass Noun (or non-Count noun) is a noun that cannot be pluralized,
like "love" or "flesh."
QEOS (god) in John 1:1c is a count noun, the word "flesh" SARX at
John 1:14 is a mass noun:
"the Word became flesh" MKJV
There are times though when translators disagree on whether a word
is a count noun or a mass noun. For instance, the Good News Bible
(and CEV) translates John 1:14 as a count noun: "The Word became a
human being."
Many take the PNEUMA/spirit at John 4:24 as a mass noun "God is
Spirit" (Weymouth, GNB)
while others take it as a count noun "God is a spirit" (LITV, NWT)
or "God is a spiritual being" (C.B. Williams).
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