Post by iris89 on Jan 6, 2009 10:06:29 GMT -5
The Face of Terror and Hate Today
INTRODUCTION:
The face of terror and hate has changed during the centuries. In the middle ages it was the face of apostate (counterfeit) Christianity and consisted of persecution by the Catholic and Orthodox Churches of all whom they disagreed with or did not like such as members of Islam, Jews, and genuine (true) Christians. Their terror and atrocities took many forms such as genocide's, inquisitions, burnings at the stake, etc. In later times their atrocities took on a nationalistic flavor in the form of Nazi Germany who continued their genocide's and atrocities. For a brief period of time, the atrocities of the apostate (counterfeit) Christianity was replaced by those of the Communist.
However, today the face of terror and hate is NOW held by Islam who has taken the place of apostate (counterfeit) Christianity with its members attacks on tranquil people in the form of road side bombs, suicide bombers, use of airplanes to destroy buildings with people in them, kidnappings, hate murders, subway bombings, train bombings, boat rammings, etc.
Let's look at a famous incident that had major ramifications for the destruction of the general tranquility of the world.
THE 9/11 TERROR ATTACK DESIGNED TO KILL WORLD TRANQUILITY AND PEACE:
Let's look at this attack and who was responsible for same through honest apologetic writing of reasonable Muslims as follows, <<"We are so Sorry for 9-11, This September 11 marks the third unforgettable anniversary of the worst mass murder in American history.
After September 11, many in the Muslim world chose denial and hallucination rather than face up to the sad fact that Muslims perpetrated the 9-11 terrorist acts and that we have an enormous problem with extremism and support for terrorism. Many Muslims, including religious leaders, and ?intellectuals? blamed 9-11 on a Jewish conspiracy and went as far as fabricating a tale that 4000 Jews did not show up for work in the World Trade Center on 9-11. Yet others blamed 9-11 on an American right wing conspiracy or the U.S. Government which allegedly wanted an excuse to invade Iraq and ?steal? Iraqi oil.
After numerous admissions of guilt by Bin Laden and numerous corroborating admissions by captured top level Al-Qaida operatives, we wonder, does the Muslim leadership have the dignity and courage to apologize for 9-11? If not 9-11, will we apologize for the murder of school children in Russia? If not Russia, will we apologize for the train bombings in Madrid, Spain? If not Spain, will we apologize for suicide bombings in buses, restaurants and other public places? If not suicide bombings, will we apologize for the barbaric beheadings of human beings? If not beheadings, will we apologize for the rape and murder of thousands of innocent people in Darfour? If not Darfour, will we apologize for the blowing up of two Russian planes by Muslim women? What will we apologize for? What will it take for Muslims to realize that those who commit mass murder in the name of Islam are not just a few fringe elements? What will it take for Muslims to realize that we are facing a crisis that is more deadly than the Aids epidemic? What will it take for Muslims to realize that there is a large evil movement that is turning what was a peaceful religion into a cult?
Will Muslims wake up before it is too late? Or will we continue blaming the Jews and an imaginary Jewish conspiracy? The blaming of all Muslim problems on Jews is a cancer that is destroying Muslim society from within and it must stop. " [source - Free Muslim Coalition Against Terrorism by Kamal Nawash on September 11, 2004]>>.
ALWAYS MONEY FOR DESTRUCTIVE USE AND WEAPONS, BUT NOT FOR CONSTRUCTIVE PURPOSES:
Some try and excuse these atrocities by saying it is because they do NOT have jobs, but this is no excuse for atrocities against others to destroy their tranquility. One individual said the following, a direct quote, <<" yes, i agree that more muslims dogmatically follow islam much more closely than jews and christians in their religions.
lol, good one! we've already had this discussion. ooooh, my tiny brain cannot comprehend the almighty.
www.migrationint.com.au/news/stockh..._2000-21mn.html
"and that 20 percent of Palestinian GDP is remittances from Palestinians employed in Israel. "
even today, this is still true. why deny such a well documented fact? i got over a thousand hits.">>
But overlooks two major facts:
[1] Lack of jobs is of their own making as they have chosen to spend their money and effort on committing atrocities against others instead of progressive up-building things such as factories and business. Now whose fault is that, but their own, and only results to light the proverbial self defense response by others who react to their attacks and atrocities. In other words, they light the proverbial fuse and reap the proverbial explosion that results as was the case with respect to the 9/11 unthinkable atrocity committed by members of Islam. Then they cry crocodile tears when Afghanistan and Iraq are taken over by coalition forces as a result of their unconscionable acts, i.e., to use an analogy, it is like lighting the fuse of a box of dynamite and being surprised when it explodes. That is just plain stupid as well as being an atrocity against mankind. Why do they love or lust for atrocities and murders instead of peace and love of fellow man?
[2] That if they would work with others instead of committing unthinkable atrocities against others and trying to make hardships for them, all would be better off. Moral objectives and tranquility of the world aside, the world only has a finite Gross World Product to make the lives of all inhabitants better and if a large part of this is squandered on weapons and destruction, it leaves less for all else, and this seems to be a fact that alludes the thinking of many members of Islam that obviously as shown by their actions lust for atrocities and to destroy world tranquility. What is wrong with their thinking ability? Why are they so filled with hate for all others, and maybe even for themselves?
FALSE CLAIMS:
Islam claims to be a peaceful religion, but the atrocities committed by members of Islam against each other and others clearly show their claim is entirely false. Let's look at the facts that this claim is entirely false by way of world news accounts.
<<" LONDON - A British jury Tuesday convicted firebrand Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri of inciting followers to kill non-Muslims in speeches at his London mosque, which has been linked to Sept. 11 plotter Zacarias Moussaoui and "shoe bomber" Richard Reid.
The jury found the one-eyed, hook-handed cleric guilty on 11 of 15 charges against him, including counts of soliciting murder, stirring racial hatred, possessing a terrorist document and possessing threatening or abusive recordings.[source - Associated Press by TARIQ PANJA, on 02/07/2006]">>
Members of Islam kill each other and destroy each other's mosques, <<" Shiite leaders called for calm, but militants attacked Sunni mosques and a gunfight broke out between Shiite militiamen and guards at the offices of a Sunni political party in Basra. About 500 soldiers were sent to Sunni neighborhoods in Baghdad to prevent clashes between the sects, army Capt. Jassim al-Wahash said.
Shiite spiritual leader Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani sent instructions to his followers forbidding attacks on Sunni mosques, especially the major ones in Baghdad. He called for seven days of mourning, his aides said.
...
Shiite protesters later set fire to a Sunni shrine containing the seventh century tomb of Talha bin Obeid-Allah, a companion of the Prophet Muhammad, on the outskirts of the southern city, but there was no immediate word on the extent of the damage or any casualties.
...
Gunmen in a speeding car shot and killed Sunni cleric Sheik Khalil al-Dulaimi as he was entering the al-Rashidi mosque in eastern Baghdad, the Iraqi army said. A street vendor was killed in another mosque attack[source - USA Today News, Posted 2/22/2006 3:27 AM]">>
[c]More on how members of Islam lust in killing each other, <<" Shiite leaders called for calm, but militants attacked Sunni mosques and a gunfight broke out between Shiite militiamen and guards at the offices of a Sunni political party in Basra. About 500 soldiers were sent to Sunni neighborhoods in Baghdad to prevent clashes between the sects, army Capt. Jassim al-Wahash said.
Shiite spiritual leader Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani sent instructions to his followers forbidding attacks on Sunni mosques, especially the major ones in Baghdad. He called for seven days of mourning, his aides said.
...
Shiite protesters later set fire to a Sunni shrine containing the seventh century tomb of Talha bin Obeid-Allah, a companion of the Prophet Muhammad, on the outskirts of the southern city, but there was no immediate word on the extent of the damage or any casualties.
...
Gunmen in a speeding car shot and killed Sunni cleric Sheik Khalil al-Dulaimi as he was entering the al-Rashidi mosque in eastern Baghdad, the Iraqi army said. A street vendor was killed in another mosque attack[source - USA Today News, Posted 2/22/2006 3:27 AM]">>
[d] And more on how members of Islam lust in attacking each other, <<" Sunni mosque bombed as Iraqi tanks deploy in Baghdad
AFP - Mon Feb 27, 3:45 PM ET
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi tanks deployed in Baghdad to pacify the city after an eruption of sectarian violence, but the bombing of a Sunni mosque and a mortar attack shattered the relative calm. Four people were killed and 15 wounded in the bomb attack outside a Sunni mosque in eastern Baghdad as the faithful were leaving evening prayers, security officials said. [source - AFP - Mon Feb 27, 3:45 PM ET]">>
[e] And how they lust in killing others and themselves, <<" TEL AVIV, Israel - A Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up outside a fast-food restaurant in a bustling area of Tel Aviv during the Passover holiday Monday, killing eight other people and wounding at least 49 in the deadliest Palestinian attack in more than a year. The Palestinians' new Hamas leaders called the attack a legitimate response to Israeli "aggression." Israel said it held Hamas ultimately responsible ? even though a different militant group, Islamic Jihad, claimed responsibility ? and would respond "as necessary." [source - Associated Press on 4/17/2006]">>, yes, quite sick and shows a really screw loose upstairs thinking, but some members of Islam even are so warped as to call these deranged individuals 'freedom fighters', can you believe.
[f] Islam fights itself, <<" By ROBERT H. REID, Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Sectarian violence has forced about 100,000 families across
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Iraq to flee their homes, a top Iraqi official said. At least 17 people, including an American soldier, were killed Saturday in fighting.
Adil Abdul-Mahdi, one of the country's two vice presidents, estimated on Friday that 100,000 Iraqi families - 90 percent of them his fellow Shiites - had fled their homes to escape attacks by rival religious sects.[source - Associated Press on 04/29/2006 by Robert H. Reid]">>
[g] Members of Islam commit atrocities against others, <<" By ALFRED de MONTESQUIOU, Associated Press Writer
CAIRO, Egypt - When terrorists blew themselves up in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula this week, the radical Palestinian group Hamas quickly joined Arab governments and Western leaders in condemning a "criminal attack against all human values."
Egypt's banned Muslim Brotherhood called the bombings "aggression on human souls created by God."
The denunciations were unexpectedly harsh from the Islamic fundamentalist groups - Hamas has killed hundreds of Israeli civilians in suicide bombings, and the Brotherhood is determined to impose an Islamic government - but experts agree that radical Muslim organizations want to distance themselves from al-Qaida.
The widening rift largely has not been acknowledged among Western powers, who tend to lump Islamic radicals together. The U.S. list of "Foreign Terrorist Organizations," for example, puts al-Qaida with Hamas and the Lebanese-based Hezbollah.
Scholars of Islamic movements and some Western policy-makers, however, say distinctions now must be made between hard-line Islamist organizations and "holy warrior" groups such as Osama bin Laden's terror network....
The level of organization these attacks" demonstrated several al-Qaida trademarks, Roberts said.
Since November's attacks on a Jordanian hotel that killed more than 60, al-Qaida has increasingly been criticized for killing civilians. And when bin Laden issued an audiotape earlier this month, many observers said his new call to support Palestinians against "Zionists" and "crusaders" was a move to boost declining popularity in the Muslim world.
[source, Associated Press by D de MONTESQUIOU on 04/29/2006]">>
The list of atrocities committed by members of Islam is almost endless, but the above is sufficient to show the who is the modern face of terror and hate. Also, we all know of the London subway bombing, 9/11, and the train bombing in Spain so NO need for world news accounts of those egregious atrocities.
CONCLUSION:
From the foregoing and common knowledge it is easy to see that "The Face of Terror and Hate Today" is being carried him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it. by members of Islam as a standard bearer. Islam should consider 1 Peter 3:10-11, "For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile: 11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it." (Authorized King James Bible; AV) and start seeking peace and pursuing it. Their members should consider becoming genuine (true) Christians and practicing love as they do.
To learn more, check out the following:
[1] religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum
[2] www.network54.com/Forum/403209 A Forum Devoted to Exposing The False Religion of Islam
[3] jude3.proboards92.com/ A Free-Speech Forum For All
[4] www.freewebs.com/iris_the_preacher My web site.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89
INTRODUCTION:
The face of terror and hate has changed during the centuries. In the middle ages it was the face of apostate (counterfeit) Christianity and consisted of persecution by the Catholic and Orthodox Churches of all whom they disagreed with or did not like such as members of Islam, Jews, and genuine (true) Christians. Their terror and atrocities took many forms such as genocide's, inquisitions, burnings at the stake, etc. In later times their atrocities took on a nationalistic flavor in the form of Nazi Germany who continued their genocide's and atrocities. For a brief period of time, the atrocities of the apostate (counterfeit) Christianity was replaced by those of the Communist.
However, today the face of terror and hate is NOW held by Islam who has taken the place of apostate (counterfeit) Christianity with its members attacks on tranquil people in the form of road side bombs, suicide bombers, use of airplanes to destroy buildings with people in them, kidnappings, hate murders, subway bombings, train bombings, boat rammings, etc.
Let's look at a famous incident that had major ramifications for the destruction of the general tranquility of the world.
THE 9/11 TERROR ATTACK DESIGNED TO KILL WORLD TRANQUILITY AND PEACE:
Let's look at this attack and who was responsible for same through honest apologetic writing of reasonable Muslims as follows, <<"We are so Sorry for 9-11, This September 11 marks the third unforgettable anniversary of the worst mass murder in American history.
After September 11, many in the Muslim world chose denial and hallucination rather than face up to the sad fact that Muslims perpetrated the 9-11 terrorist acts and that we have an enormous problem with extremism and support for terrorism. Many Muslims, including religious leaders, and ?intellectuals? blamed 9-11 on a Jewish conspiracy and went as far as fabricating a tale that 4000 Jews did not show up for work in the World Trade Center on 9-11. Yet others blamed 9-11 on an American right wing conspiracy or the U.S. Government which allegedly wanted an excuse to invade Iraq and ?steal? Iraqi oil.
After numerous admissions of guilt by Bin Laden and numerous corroborating admissions by captured top level Al-Qaida operatives, we wonder, does the Muslim leadership have the dignity and courage to apologize for 9-11? If not 9-11, will we apologize for the murder of school children in Russia? If not Russia, will we apologize for the train bombings in Madrid, Spain? If not Spain, will we apologize for suicide bombings in buses, restaurants and other public places? If not suicide bombings, will we apologize for the barbaric beheadings of human beings? If not beheadings, will we apologize for the rape and murder of thousands of innocent people in Darfour? If not Darfour, will we apologize for the blowing up of two Russian planes by Muslim women? What will we apologize for? What will it take for Muslims to realize that those who commit mass murder in the name of Islam are not just a few fringe elements? What will it take for Muslims to realize that we are facing a crisis that is more deadly than the Aids epidemic? What will it take for Muslims to realize that there is a large evil movement that is turning what was a peaceful religion into a cult?
Will Muslims wake up before it is too late? Or will we continue blaming the Jews and an imaginary Jewish conspiracy? The blaming of all Muslim problems on Jews is a cancer that is destroying Muslim society from within and it must stop. " [source - Free Muslim Coalition Against Terrorism by Kamal Nawash on September 11, 2004]>>.
ALWAYS MONEY FOR DESTRUCTIVE USE AND WEAPONS, BUT NOT FOR CONSTRUCTIVE PURPOSES:
Some try and excuse these atrocities by saying it is because they do NOT have jobs, but this is no excuse for atrocities against others to destroy their tranquility. One individual said the following, a direct quote, <<" yes, i agree that more muslims dogmatically follow islam much more closely than jews and christians in their religions.
lol, good one! we've already had this discussion. ooooh, my tiny brain cannot comprehend the almighty.
www.migrationint.com.au/news/stockh..._2000-21mn.html
"and that 20 percent of Palestinian GDP is remittances from Palestinians employed in Israel. "
even today, this is still true. why deny such a well documented fact? i got over a thousand hits.">>
But overlooks two major facts:
[1] Lack of jobs is of their own making as they have chosen to spend their money and effort on committing atrocities against others instead of progressive up-building things such as factories and business. Now whose fault is that, but their own, and only results to light the proverbial self defense response by others who react to their attacks and atrocities. In other words, they light the proverbial fuse and reap the proverbial explosion that results as was the case with respect to the 9/11 unthinkable atrocity committed by members of Islam. Then they cry crocodile tears when Afghanistan and Iraq are taken over by coalition forces as a result of their unconscionable acts, i.e., to use an analogy, it is like lighting the fuse of a box of dynamite and being surprised when it explodes. That is just plain stupid as well as being an atrocity against mankind. Why do they love or lust for atrocities and murders instead of peace and love of fellow man?
[2] That if they would work with others instead of committing unthinkable atrocities against others and trying to make hardships for them, all would be better off. Moral objectives and tranquility of the world aside, the world only has a finite Gross World Product to make the lives of all inhabitants better and if a large part of this is squandered on weapons and destruction, it leaves less for all else, and this seems to be a fact that alludes the thinking of many members of Islam that obviously as shown by their actions lust for atrocities and to destroy world tranquility. What is wrong with their thinking ability? Why are they so filled with hate for all others, and maybe even for themselves?
FALSE CLAIMS:
Islam claims to be a peaceful religion, but the atrocities committed by members of Islam against each other and others clearly show their claim is entirely false. Let's look at the facts that this claim is entirely false by way of world news accounts.
<<" LONDON - A British jury Tuesday convicted firebrand Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri of inciting followers to kill non-Muslims in speeches at his London mosque, which has been linked to Sept. 11 plotter Zacarias Moussaoui and "shoe bomber" Richard Reid.
The jury found the one-eyed, hook-handed cleric guilty on 11 of 15 charges against him, including counts of soliciting murder, stirring racial hatred, possessing a terrorist document and possessing threatening or abusive recordings.[source - Associated Press by TARIQ PANJA, on 02/07/2006]">>
Members of Islam kill each other and destroy each other's mosques, <<" Shiite leaders called for calm, but militants attacked Sunni mosques and a gunfight broke out between Shiite militiamen and guards at the offices of a Sunni political party in Basra. About 500 soldiers were sent to Sunni neighborhoods in Baghdad to prevent clashes between the sects, army Capt. Jassim al-Wahash said.
Shiite spiritual leader Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani sent instructions to his followers forbidding attacks on Sunni mosques, especially the major ones in Baghdad. He called for seven days of mourning, his aides said.
...
Shiite protesters later set fire to a Sunni shrine containing the seventh century tomb of Talha bin Obeid-Allah, a companion of the Prophet Muhammad, on the outskirts of the southern city, but there was no immediate word on the extent of the damage or any casualties.
...
Gunmen in a speeding car shot and killed Sunni cleric Sheik Khalil al-Dulaimi as he was entering the al-Rashidi mosque in eastern Baghdad, the Iraqi army said. A street vendor was killed in another mosque attack[source - USA Today News, Posted 2/22/2006 3:27 AM]">>
[c]More on how members of Islam lust in killing each other, <<" Shiite leaders called for calm, but militants attacked Sunni mosques and a gunfight broke out between Shiite militiamen and guards at the offices of a Sunni political party in Basra. About 500 soldiers were sent to Sunni neighborhoods in Baghdad to prevent clashes between the sects, army Capt. Jassim al-Wahash said.
Shiite spiritual leader Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani sent instructions to his followers forbidding attacks on Sunni mosques, especially the major ones in Baghdad. He called for seven days of mourning, his aides said.
...
Shiite protesters later set fire to a Sunni shrine containing the seventh century tomb of Talha bin Obeid-Allah, a companion of the Prophet Muhammad, on the outskirts of the southern city, but there was no immediate word on the extent of the damage or any casualties.
...
Gunmen in a speeding car shot and killed Sunni cleric Sheik Khalil al-Dulaimi as he was entering the al-Rashidi mosque in eastern Baghdad, the Iraqi army said. A street vendor was killed in another mosque attack[source - USA Today News, Posted 2/22/2006 3:27 AM]">>
[d] And more on how members of Islam lust in attacking each other, <<" Sunni mosque bombed as Iraqi tanks deploy in Baghdad
AFP - Mon Feb 27, 3:45 PM ET
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqi tanks deployed in Baghdad to pacify the city after an eruption of sectarian violence, but the bombing of a Sunni mosque and a mortar attack shattered the relative calm. Four people were killed and 15 wounded in the bomb attack outside a Sunni mosque in eastern Baghdad as the faithful were leaving evening prayers, security officials said. [source - AFP - Mon Feb 27, 3:45 PM ET]">>
[e] And how they lust in killing others and themselves, <<" TEL AVIV, Israel - A Palestinian suicide bomber blew himself up outside a fast-food restaurant in a bustling area of Tel Aviv during the Passover holiday Monday, killing eight other people and wounding at least 49 in the deadliest Palestinian attack in more than a year. The Palestinians' new Hamas leaders called the attack a legitimate response to Israeli "aggression." Israel said it held Hamas ultimately responsible ? even though a different militant group, Islamic Jihad, claimed responsibility ? and would respond "as necessary." [source - Associated Press on 4/17/2006]">>, yes, quite sick and shows a really screw loose upstairs thinking, but some members of Islam even are so warped as to call these deranged individuals 'freedom fighters', can you believe.
[f] Islam fights itself, <<" By ROBERT H. REID, Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Sectarian violence has forced about 100,000 families across
Bottom of Form 1
Iraq to flee their homes, a top Iraqi official said. At least 17 people, including an American soldier, were killed Saturday in fighting.
Adil Abdul-Mahdi, one of the country's two vice presidents, estimated on Friday that 100,000 Iraqi families - 90 percent of them his fellow Shiites - had fled their homes to escape attacks by rival religious sects.[source - Associated Press on 04/29/2006 by Robert H. Reid]">>
[g] Members of Islam commit atrocities against others, <<" By ALFRED de MONTESQUIOU, Associated Press Writer
CAIRO, Egypt - When terrorists blew themselves up in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula this week, the radical Palestinian group Hamas quickly joined Arab governments and Western leaders in condemning a "criminal attack against all human values."
Egypt's banned Muslim Brotherhood called the bombings "aggression on human souls created by God."
The denunciations were unexpectedly harsh from the Islamic fundamentalist groups - Hamas has killed hundreds of Israeli civilians in suicide bombings, and the Brotherhood is determined to impose an Islamic government - but experts agree that radical Muslim organizations want to distance themselves from al-Qaida.
The widening rift largely has not been acknowledged among Western powers, who tend to lump Islamic radicals together. The U.S. list of "Foreign Terrorist Organizations," for example, puts al-Qaida with Hamas and the Lebanese-based Hezbollah.
Scholars of Islamic movements and some Western policy-makers, however, say distinctions now must be made between hard-line Islamist organizations and "holy warrior" groups such as Osama bin Laden's terror network....
The level of organization these attacks" demonstrated several al-Qaida trademarks, Roberts said.
Since November's attacks on a Jordanian hotel that killed more than 60, al-Qaida has increasingly been criticized for killing civilians. And when bin Laden issued an audiotape earlier this month, many observers said his new call to support Palestinians against "Zionists" and "crusaders" was a move to boost declining popularity in the Muslim world.
[source, Associated Press by D de MONTESQUIOU on 04/29/2006]">>
The list of atrocities committed by members of Islam is almost endless, but the above is sufficient to show the who is the modern face of terror and hate. Also, we all know of the London subway bombing, 9/11, and the train bombing in Spain so NO need for world news accounts of those egregious atrocities.
CONCLUSION:
From the foregoing and common knowledge it is easy to see that "The Face of Terror and Hate Today" is being carried him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it. by members of Islam as a standard bearer. Islam should consider 1 Peter 3:10-11, "For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile: 11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it." (Authorized King James Bible; AV) and start seeking peace and pursuing it. Their members should consider becoming genuine (true) Christians and practicing love as they do.
To learn more, check out the following:
[1] religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum
[2] www.network54.com/Forum/403209 A Forum Devoted to Exposing The False Religion of Islam
[3] jude3.proboards92.com/ A Free-Speech Forum For All
[4] www.freewebs.com/iris_the_preacher My web site.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89