Post by iris89 on Sept 3, 2010 8:20:38 GMT -5
Exposure Of Muslim ‘Damage Control’ Propaganda:
INTRODUCTION:
Let’s look at REALITY. Of course Muslim sources will paint a positive picture of the Mosque disagreement – THAT IS TO BE EXPECTED. And of course this is clearly shown in URL link www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484
But then, examine this link carefully and you will see this blatant cover-up of responsibility:
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“The language of “provocation,” “triumph,” and “sensitivity” presumes that all Muslims, and not only al-Qaida members, are guilty of 9/11 attacks. Muslim Americans by and large, including Imam Faisal Rauf, have strongly rejected al-Qaida actions and views, as did most Muslims the world over. To equate Muslims with the atrocities committed by al-Qaida operatives is tantamount to equating Christians with the massacres committed by the Serb nationalists in Bosnia. The opponent of building an Islamic center near 9/11 site must remember that ground zero is hallowed not only by Jewish and Christian blood, but by the blood of over 90 Muslims who perished on that horrific day.”[SOURCE - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484
Which is quite interesting shucking of responsibility, i.e., putting the blame on al-Qaida, but OF COURSE FAILING TO THROW MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP OUT OF ISLAM, thus bringing the responsibility onto all of Islam. Yes, all groups have bad ones among them, but right thinking groups excommunicate, dis-fellowship, out, etc. the bad actors. Islam fails to do so.
LET’S GET TO REALITY AND RECOGNIZE ‘DAMAGE CONTROL’ PROPAGANDA FOR WHAT IT IS.
www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484 is nothing but ‘damage control’ propaganda, take the following for example:
Quote:
“The language of “provocation,” “triumph,” and “sensitivity” presumes that all Muslims, and not only al-Qaida members, are guilty of 9/11 attacks. Muslim Americans by and large, including Imam Faisal Rauf, have strongly rejected al-Qaida actions and views, as did most Muslims the world over. To equate Muslims with the atrocities committed by al-Qaida operatives is tantamount to equating Christians with the massacres committed by the Serb nationalists in Bosnia. The opponent of building an Islamic center near 9/11 site must remember that ground zero is hallowed not only by Jewish and Christian blood, but by the blood of over 90 Muslims who perished on that horrific day.” From ‘damage control’ propaganda at www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484.
Yes, it is true that around 90 Muslims were murdered by fellow Muslims on that day, but that is just routine for this faith. Just check the daily news with respect car bombings, suicide bombings, IED murders, etc. in various Muslim countries, all committed by fellow Muslims.
Yes, it is strange, that a religion would fail to try and control such wrong actions, but many in this faith would want a teacher executed because she let her Muslim students name a teddy bear Muhammad even though many individuals in Muslim countries are given this name. Let’s look at REALITY in an article “Absurd Irrational Insane Behavior by [[some in]]Islam Over The Naming of A Teddy Bear” by Iris the Preacher.
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… Let's look at the actual incident and comments on same in a leading US Newspaper, The Los Angeles Times. All comments within, [[ comment ]].
"The Teddy Bear Incident:
By Janet Stobart, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer, December 5, 2007
LONDON -- British schoolteacher Gillian Gibbons plans to get back to the classroom once she finishes celebrating her release from a Sudanese jail.
"I'll be looking for a job," she said Tuesday morning during a news conference after her arrival at London's Heathrow Airport, where she was met by her overjoyed son and daughter, John and Jessica.
Gibbons, 54, a primary school teacher from the northern town of Liverpool, was sentenced to jail by a Sudanese court for insulting Islam, in an incident involving a teddy bear. She couldn't stop smiling as she told reporters she was "very glad to be back and a little shocked at the media attention I have been getting."
Her release came after tense negotiations between two members of Britain's House of Lords and the Sudanese government.
"It has been an ordeal, but I would like you to know I was well-treated in prison and everybody was very kind to me," she said. "I'm just an ordinary middle-aged teacher in search of adventure and I got a bit more of an adventure than I bargained for."
Special ambassador
Gibbons' ordeal began when she asked her class at the Unity Primary School in the Sudanese capital of Khartoum, which teaches a Western curriculum to mainly Muslim children, to name a teddy bear that would then be used as a sort of roving ambassador, sending messages to children in other countries.
Her class of 7-year-olds chose to name the bear Muhammad. Complaints of sacrilege for taking the name of Islam's prophet in vain reached the government.
Such an offense is punishable by a prison sentence, a fine and 40 lashes, according to hard-line Muslim officials.
Despite receiving support from parents and children at the school, Gibbons was arrested Nov. 25 and charged with insulting Islam. She was sentenced to 15 days in prison.
The case prompted thousands of demonstrators to take to the streets of Khartoum with calls for a sterner sentence, even execution, and a public outcry in Britain denouncing the Sudanese reaction as absurd and overly strict.[[Clearly many in Islam are irrational insane as shown by their actions in this case. If the reverse situation were to happen in a none Islamic land; to wit, some students named a Teddy Bear Jesus nothing would be done or said about it as other people are not irrational insane.]]
SOME IN ISLAM TRY TO OBFUSCATE THE REAL ISSUE
Many in Islam cast indictments against others, but utterly fail to face up to REALITY – If you want freedom, you should also be willing to extend it. Now read the ‘damage control’ and obfusciating the issue below:
Quote:
The “Ground Zero Mosque” controversy is gradually developing into a national hysteria threatening to shack the image, and potentially the reality, of the United State as an open society and a beacon of freedom and civil liberties. The campaign against the proposed mosque in lower Manhattan has already dwarfed the one mobilized early last year by European far right parties to ban Swiss Muslims from building minarets for their mosques.
The anti mosque campaign is a testimony to the growing influence of the American far right in media and political circles and a sad commentary on the ability of Muslim bashers to sway public opinion in the post 9/11 American. [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484
REALITY, They want to build Mosques anywhere they want irregardless of stepping on sensitivities. In fact, the very name they want for their Mosque is quite significant. How so, let’s look at a previous post of mine,
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In Spain where they spent centuries to drive out the Muslims that stole their land, they, believe it or not, were given the right to build the Great Mosque of Granada, but when a Spanish contractor applied to build a Catholic church in Mecca, he was turned down. In other words, they want the right to build Mosques anywhere, but do NOT want to give the same rights to those who want to build a church. This of course in NOT right.
INTRODUCTION:
Let’s look at REALITY. Of course Muslim sources will paint a positive picture of the Mosque disagreement – THAT IS TO BE EXPECTED. And of course this is clearly shown in URL link www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484
But then, examine this link carefully and you will see this blatant cover-up of responsibility:
Quote:
“The language of “provocation,” “triumph,” and “sensitivity” presumes that all Muslims, and not only al-Qaida members, are guilty of 9/11 attacks. Muslim Americans by and large, including Imam Faisal Rauf, have strongly rejected al-Qaida actions and views, as did most Muslims the world over. To equate Muslims with the atrocities committed by al-Qaida operatives is tantamount to equating Christians with the massacres committed by the Serb nationalists in Bosnia. The opponent of building an Islamic center near 9/11 site must remember that ground zero is hallowed not only by Jewish and Christian blood, but by the blood of over 90 Muslims who perished on that horrific day.”[SOURCE - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484
Which is quite interesting shucking of responsibility, i.e., putting the blame on al-Qaida, but OF COURSE FAILING TO THROW MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP OUT OF ISLAM, thus bringing the responsibility onto all of Islam. Yes, all groups have bad ones among them, but right thinking groups excommunicate, dis-fellowship, out, etc. the bad actors. Islam fails to do so.
LET’S GET TO REALITY AND RECOGNIZE ‘DAMAGE CONTROL’ PROPAGANDA FOR WHAT IT IS.
www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484 is nothing but ‘damage control’ propaganda, take the following for example:
Quote:
“The language of “provocation,” “triumph,” and “sensitivity” presumes that all Muslims, and not only al-Qaida members, are guilty of 9/11 attacks. Muslim Americans by and large, including Imam Faisal Rauf, have strongly rejected al-Qaida actions and views, as did most Muslims the world over. To equate Muslims with the atrocities committed by al-Qaida operatives is tantamount to equating Christians with the massacres committed by the Serb nationalists in Bosnia. The opponent of building an Islamic center near 9/11 site must remember that ground zero is hallowed not only by Jewish and Christian blood, but by the blood of over 90 Muslims who perished on that horrific day.” From ‘damage control’ propaganda at www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484.
Yes, it is true that around 90 Muslims were murdered by fellow Muslims on that day, but that is just routine for this faith. Just check the daily news with respect car bombings, suicide bombings, IED murders, etc. in various Muslim countries, all committed by fellow Muslims.
Yes, it is strange, that a religion would fail to try and control such wrong actions, but many in this faith would want a teacher executed because she let her Muslim students name a teddy bear Muhammad even though many individuals in Muslim countries are given this name. Let’s look at REALITY in an article “Absurd Irrational Insane Behavior by [[some in]]Islam Over The Naming of A Teddy Bear” by Iris the Preacher.
Quote:
… Let's look at the actual incident and comments on same in a leading US Newspaper, The Los Angeles Times. All comments within, [[ comment ]].
"The Teddy Bear Incident:
By Janet Stobart, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer, December 5, 2007
LONDON -- British schoolteacher Gillian Gibbons plans to get back to the classroom once she finishes celebrating her release from a Sudanese jail.
"I'll be looking for a job," she said Tuesday morning during a news conference after her arrival at London's Heathrow Airport, where she was met by her overjoyed son and daughter, John and Jessica.
Gibbons, 54, a primary school teacher from the northern town of Liverpool, was sentenced to jail by a Sudanese court for insulting Islam, in an incident involving a teddy bear. She couldn't stop smiling as she told reporters she was "very glad to be back and a little shocked at the media attention I have been getting."
Her release came after tense negotiations between two members of Britain's House of Lords and the Sudanese government.
"It has been an ordeal, but I would like you to know I was well-treated in prison and everybody was very kind to me," she said. "I'm just an ordinary middle-aged teacher in search of adventure and I got a bit more of an adventure than I bargained for."
Special ambassador
Gibbons' ordeal began when she asked her class at the Unity Primary School in the Sudanese capital of Khartoum, which teaches a Western curriculum to mainly Muslim children, to name a teddy bear that would then be used as a sort of roving ambassador, sending messages to children in other countries.
Her class of 7-year-olds chose to name the bear Muhammad. Complaints of sacrilege for taking the name of Islam's prophet in vain reached the government.
Such an offense is punishable by a prison sentence, a fine and 40 lashes, according to hard-line Muslim officials.
Despite receiving support from parents and children at the school, Gibbons was arrested Nov. 25 and charged with insulting Islam. She was sentenced to 15 days in prison.
The case prompted thousands of demonstrators to take to the streets of Khartoum with calls for a sterner sentence, even execution, and a public outcry in Britain denouncing the Sudanese reaction as absurd and overly strict.[[Clearly many in Islam are irrational insane as shown by their actions in this case. If the reverse situation were to happen in a none Islamic land; to wit, some students named a Teddy Bear Jesus nothing would be done or said about it as other people are not irrational insane.]]
SOME IN ISLAM TRY TO OBFUSCATE THE REAL ISSUE
Many in Islam cast indictments against others, but utterly fail to face up to REALITY – If you want freedom, you should also be willing to extend it. Now read the ‘damage control’ and obfusciating the issue below:
Quote:
The “Ground Zero Mosque” controversy is gradually developing into a national hysteria threatening to shack the image, and potentially the reality, of the United State as an open society and a beacon of freedom and civil liberties. The campaign against the proposed mosque in lower Manhattan has already dwarfed the one mobilized early last year by European far right parties to ban Swiss Muslims from building minarets for their mosques.
The anti mosque campaign is a testimony to the growing influence of the American far right in media and political circles and a sad commentary on the ability of Muslim bashers to sway public opinion in the post 9/11 American. [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484
REALITY, They want to build Mosques anywhere they want irregardless of stepping on sensitivities. In fact, the very name they want for their Mosque is quite significant. How so, let’s look at a previous post of mine,
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In Spain where they spent centuries to drive out the Muslims that stole their land, they, believe it or not, were given the right to build the Great Mosque of Granada, but when a Spanish contractor applied to build a Catholic church in Mecca, he was turned down. In other words, they want the right to build Mosques anywhere, but do NOT want to give the same rights to those who want to build a church. This of course in NOT right.
Now the reality, the contractor mentioned was from Cordovo, Spain, where they build the Grand Mosque of Cordova; yet he was turned down by his equally fair request. Why? Simple they want rights for themselves when in the minority, but where they are the majority, they do not give them. That is totally unfair and absolutely wrong. [SOURCE - idigmygarden.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35490&page=29, Post #288]
A HALF TRUTH INTENDED TO OBFUSCATE THE ISSUE:
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If anyone’s actions and motives should be questioned, it should be those of the bigots who equate Islam with terrorism and who have embarked on a campaign of disinformation and character assassination to stop Muslims from exercising their constitutional rights freely. Yet it is the actions and motives of the Muslim peacemakers who took the initiative to build an Islamic center dedicated to enhancing interfaith dialogue and cooperation, and who have for decades been involved in counter extremist interpretations and in bridge building with their Jewish and Christian neighbors are place under scrutiny. [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
REALITY, Most Muslims are NOT terrorist, but Most terrorist are Muslim. One Australian newspaper stated,
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" The Weekend Australian (newspaper) had this to say on the matter,
"Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-muslims or each other?" [[in fact]] Islam is intolerant of other religions, so much so that Christians in Nigeria, Sudan and middle eastern countries are killed for practicing their religion. Muslims are also responsible for burning down their churches. Sydney has recently seen an attack on four churches for similar reasons. (December 16, 2005) How can we tolerate such intolerance?
WHAT IS LEGAL MAY NOT BE RIGHT:
REALITY, Islam has the right to build the Cordova Mosque where they want – TURE. President Obama even said so, but even he questioned the wisdom of it – this is especially so when you consider that in countries where Islam is in the majority the right to build a church is prohibited and even in those very few where it can be done such as Malaysia, churches often get burnt; and some Muslim countries even just confiscate Christian churches for other uses, take Turkey for example that confiscated the largest Orthodox church in the world and is NOT ready to give it back.
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Obama reportedly made a distinction between the “right” to build the mosque, which he supports, and the “wisdom” of building the mosque, on which he chose to withhold judgment. Granted that having right and being right are two different things, it is unfortunate that President Obama seems to indirectly question the wisdom of the Islamic center proponents rather than those who unfairly oppose it. If anyone’s actions and motives should be questioned, it should be those of the bigots who equate Islam with terrorism and who have embarked on a campaign of disinformation and character assassination to stop Muslims from exercising their constitutional rights freely. Yet it is the actions and motives of the Muslim peacemakers who took the initiative to build an Islamic center dedicated to enhancing interfaith dialogue and cooperation, and who have for decades been involved in counter extremist interpretations and in bridge building with their Jewish and Christian neighbors are place under scrutiny. [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
Let’s have fairness; to wit, equal treatment in Muslim countries for Christians
LOOK AT THE WHITE WASH ATTEMPT AT ‘DAMAGE CONTROL” PROPAGANDA:
All individuals should have equal rights, but these same group, Islam, should extend that right to Christians and Jews. In their attempt at ‘damage control’ propaganda, they said:
Quote:
It is now the time for Muslim Americans to follow the excellent examples of those who struggled before them, and remind the whole world once again that no false arguments should be allowed to separate the rights of a minority and its ability to exercise its rights freely.[source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
REALITY, Islam has the right to build the Cordova Mosque where they want – TRUE. President Obama even said so, but even he questioned the wisdom of it – this is especially so when you consider that in countries where Islam is in the majority the right to build a church is prohibited and even in those very few where it can be done such as Malaysia, churches often get burnt; and some Muslim countries even just confiscate Christian churches for other uses, take Turkey for example that confiscated the largest Orthodox church in the world and is NOT ready to give it back.
And,
Let’s have fairness; to wit, equal treatment in Muslim countries for Christians
What is fair for one, should be fair for the other.
A REAL SNOW JOB TO OBFUSCATE THE REAL ISSUES:
The attempt to snow job the real issues by pointing to an apparent nut case is deceit and half truths at their best – real propaganda. Yes, Pamela Geller, who ever she is, is made out to be a real nut case and may very well be, but she is in no way the leader of the opposition to the Cordova Mosque, and by bringing her us shows a clear attempt to disparage all the reasonable individuals that oppose it such as Sarah Palin, Dwight Gingrich, and many others.
Actually, the Golden Dome Mosque sits on Jewish land where their temple once stood, but the Israelites seem content to leave it there even though it is a squatter building that really has no right to be there. But that is the Israelites business and I will NOT second guess them. For reality about land titles, go to a digital book on same at,
religioustruths.proboards.com/ind....read=993&page=1 .
Hitler may have adopted Jihad with respect to the Holocaust, but I can find no information to that and of course the writer of this propaganda failed to provide any statement for, “Hitler adopted Jihad and was inspired by Islam to commit the Holocaust.”
Also, I think it crazy that anyone would be ‘praying’ for a nuclear war, but then again the writer of this propaganda failed to provide any source for such a wild statement.
See the actual propaganda below:
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The campaign is led by open bigots like Pamela Geller who is on record calling for the destruction of the Golden Dome Mosque so a Jewish temple can be built in its place, and who recently argued that Hitler adopted Jihad and was inspired by Islam to commit the Holocaust. She is also on record “praying” for a nuclear war between Iran and Israel that would give the latter the opportunity to nuke Tehran, Mecca, and [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
ATTACK ON NEWS PRESENTERS FOR TELLING IT AS IT IS:
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Sean Hannity of the Fox News and Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch, succeeded in setting the tone of the current debate. They have referred to the proposed Islamic center as a “triumphant mosque” claiming that it is customary for Muslims to build such mosques after defeating their enemies. They called the plan to build an Islamic center two blocks away from ground zero a provocation intended to upset the families of the victims of 9/11. They even argued that the site of 9/11 is a hallowed ground and should hence be made inaccessible for Muslims to build an Islamic Center two blocks away from its site.[source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
REALITY, In reality, Officials of Islam, Caliphs, have done just that, set up Mosques after they have inflicted an injury on their enemy, so why is it unreasonable to think this is not still the Standard Operating Procedure? Let’s look at some facts and sources:
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The Ground Zero Mosque and Conquest
Vinod Kumar
Having worked in Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam and the home of its most extreme form, Wahhabism, I was shocked that a New York City neighborhood community board, in its ignorance, recently voted 29 to 1 to support a request to build a mosque and a Muslim center near Ground Zero.
Muslims have always built mosques on the sites of their conquests. The Prophet Muhammad himself made the Ka'aba, a pagan pantheon, into a mosque after he captured Mecca in 630 CE. The Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem was deliberately built near the Temple Mount, the holiest places in Judaism. The Ummayad mosque in Damascus was built on the site of the Church of Saint John. Babri mosque in Ayodhya, India was built by demolishing a Hindu temple at the site of Hinduism's Lord Rama's birthplace. They built mosques on the sites of thousands of temples throughout India.
The request to build a mosque near the site of the World Trade Center is not accidental. It is astute and deliberate, as is the decision to call the place Cordoba House. Cordoba is city in Spain that resonates mightily in Muslim history. It was the capital of the Islamic empire in Spain. It was the place where Islam established its first caliphate in Europe. The Grand Cordoba Mosque was built where a Visigoth Christian church stood.
In 1932 Allama Iqbal, the spiritual father of Pakistan, when it was still part of British India, visited Spain to see the Grand Mosque, now called the Holy Cathedral. He prayed there though such worship was prohibited by the Spanish government, and composed a poem titled Masjid-e-Qurtaba that includes the following lines: "Sacred for lovers of art, though art the glory of faith. Thou hast made Andalusia pure as a holy land."
All devout Muslims are certain that Islam will someday conquer Spain because Islam teaches that once a place has been absorbed into the ummah, the worldwide community of Islam, it must remain Muslim forever. If the infidels retake Cordoba and Spain, for instance, then Muslims are obliged to conquer it again.
Though they cannot be measured, symbols are powerful in every civilization, especially the Islamic one. New Yorkers should remember that before they blithely allow Cordoba House to be built in their town.
The author, citizen of US, born in India has worked in India, Middle East, Europe and the US. An engineer by profession, he has studied Islam and Islamic history of India for the past two decades.
[SOURCE – retrieved from www.americanthinker.com/blog/...e_and_con.html on 8/30/2010]
Other sources of information:
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It became a standard practice to destroy an Indian, Persian, Zoroastrian, Buddhist, Jewish or Christian temple and build a mosque on its ruins. This was always interpreted by historians as a kind of one upmanship. A way to demonstrate the superiority of Islam and humiliate the defeated. Koenraad Elst in his recent book NEGATIONISM IN INDIA writes: "In all the lands it conquered, Islam has replaced indigenous places of worship with mosques. In Iran, there are no ancient Zoroastrians or Manichean shrines left. In Central Asia, there are no Buddhist temples left. Similarly, in India (except the far South where Islam penetrated rather late) there are practically no Hindu temples that have survived the Muslim period (over 10,000 destroyed). But there are thousands of mosques built on the foundations of Hindu temples (for example, the Ayodhya temple)." In my opinion, this Islamic behavior was more than an exhibition of cruel superiority. It was based on the pagan belief that they would acquire the power of the defeated peoples by absorbing their Holy Places and making them theirs. [SOURCE - ISRAEL'S SACRED PLACES:
Why The Arab Thrust To Seize Control of Them, at christianactionforisrael.org/sacred_places.html ]
HIGH SOUNDING PROPAGANDA TO HIDE THE FACT THAT EQUAL RIGHTS ARE WITHHELD IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES:
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Will we see more principled voices in the face of shameless demagoguery? If 9/11 shocks has not penetrated into the soul of America and has not changed its spirit then America will once again reject the voices of intolerance and push the bigots back into their dark corners where they belong. [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
As I have said before,
Let’s have fairness; to wit, equal treatment in Muslim countries for Christians
What is fair for one, should be fair for the other.
PROPAGANDA WRITERS TRY TO SMEAR GOOD PEOPLE BY LINKING THEM TO BAD ONES:
See the proof for yourself that the propagandist is trying to link outstanding people to Gellar – what an abomination and distortion of truth.
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Geller, along with her network of likeminded Muslim bashers, including
Sean Hannity of the Fox News and Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch, succeeded in setting the tone of the current debate. They have referred to the proposed Islamic center as a “triumphant mosque” claiming that it is customary for Muslims to build such mosques after defeating their enemies. They called the plan to build an Islamic
center two blocks away from ground zero a provocation intended to upset the families of the victims of 9/11. They even argued that the site of 9/11 is a hallowed ground and should hence be made inaccessible for Muslims to build an Islamic Center two blocks away from its site. [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
To learn more, check out the following:
[1] religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum
[2] www.network54.com/Forum/403209 A Forum Devoted to Exposing The False Religion of Islam
[3] jude3.proboards92.com/ A Free-Speech Forum For All
[4] www.freewebs.com/iris_the_preacher My web site.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89
A HALF TRUTH INTENDED TO OBFUSCATE THE ISSUE:
Quote:
If anyone’s actions and motives should be questioned, it should be those of the bigots who equate Islam with terrorism and who have embarked on a campaign of disinformation and character assassination to stop Muslims from exercising their constitutional rights freely. Yet it is the actions and motives of the Muslim peacemakers who took the initiative to build an Islamic center dedicated to enhancing interfaith dialogue and cooperation, and who have for decades been involved in counter extremist interpretations and in bridge building with their Jewish and Christian neighbors are place under scrutiny. [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
REALITY, Most Muslims are NOT terrorist, but Most terrorist are Muslim. One Australian newspaper stated,
Quote:
" The Weekend Australian (newspaper) had this to say on the matter,
"Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-muslims or each other?" [[in fact]] Islam is intolerant of other religions, so much so that Christians in Nigeria, Sudan and middle eastern countries are killed for practicing their religion. Muslims are also responsible for burning down their churches. Sydney has recently seen an attack on four churches for similar reasons. (December 16, 2005) How can we tolerate such intolerance?
WHAT IS LEGAL MAY NOT BE RIGHT:
REALITY, Islam has the right to build the Cordova Mosque where they want – TURE. President Obama even said so, but even he questioned the wisdom of it – this is especially so when you consider that in countries where Islam is in the majority the right to build a church is prohibited and even in those very few where it can be done such as Malaysia, churches often get burnt; and some Muslim countries even just confiscate Christian churches for other uses, take Turkey for example that confiscated the largest Orthodox church in the world and is NOT ready to give it back.
Quote:
Obama reportedly made a distinction between the “right” to build the mosque, which he supports, and the “wisdom” of building the mosque, on which he chose to withhold judgment. Granted that having right and being right are two different things, it is unfortunate that President Obama seems to indirectly question the wisdom of the Islamic center proponents rather than those who unfairly oppose it. If anyone’s actions and motives should be questioned, it should be those of the bigots who equate Islam with terrorism and who have embarked on a campaign of disinformation and character assassination to stop Muslims from exercising their constitutional rights freely. Yet it is the actions and motives of the Muslim peacemakers who took the initiative to build an Islamic center dedicated to enhancing interfaith dialogue and cooperation, and who have for decades been involved in counter extremist interpretations and in bridge building with their Jewish and Christian neighbors are place under scrutiny. [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
Let’s have fairness; to wit, equal treatment in Muslim countries for Christians
LOOK AT THE WHITE WASH ATTEMPT AT ‘DAMAGE CONTROL” PROPAGANDA:
All individuals should have equal rights, but these same group, Islam, should extend that right to Christians and Jews. In their attempt at ‘damage control’ propaganda, they said:
Quote:
It is now the time for Muslim Americans to follow the excellent examples of those who struggled before them, and remind the whole world once again that no false arguments should be allowed to separate the rights of a minority and its ability to exercise its rights freely.[source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
REALITY, Islam has the right to build the Cordova Mosque where they want – TRUE. President Obama even said so, but even he questioned the wisdom of it – this is especially so when you consider that in countries where Islam is in the majority the right to build a church is prohibited and even in those very few where it can be done such as Malaysia, churches often get burnt; and some Muslim countries even just confiscate Christian churches for other uses, take Turkey for example that confiscated the largest Orthodox church in the world and is NOT ready to give it back.
And,
Let’s have fairness; to wit, equal treatment in Muslim countries for Christians
What is fair for one, should be fair for the other.
A REAL SNOW JOB TO OBFUSCATE THE REAL ISSUES:
The attempt to snow job the real issues by pointing to an apparent nut case is deceit and half truths at their best – real propaganda. Yes, Pamela Geller, who ever she is, is made out to be a real nut case and may very well be, but she is in no way the leader of the opposition to the Cordova Mosque, and by bringing her us shows a clear attempt to disparage all the reasonable individuals that oppose it such as Sarah Palin, Dwight Gingrich, and many others.
Actually, the Golden Dome Mosque sits on Jewish land where their temple once stood, but the Israelites seem content to leave it there even though it is a squatter building that really has no right to be there. But that is the Israelites business and I will NOT second guess them. For reality about land titles, go to a digital book on same at,
religioustruths.proboards.com/ind....read=993&page=1 .
Hitler may have adopted Jihad with respect to the Holocaust, but I can find no information to that and of course the writer of this propaganda failed to provide any statement for, “Hitler adopted Jihad and was inspired by Islam to commit the Holocaust.”
Also, I think it crazy that anyone would be ‘praying’ for a nuclear war, but then again the writer of this propaganda failed to provide any source for such a wild statement.
See the actual propaganda below:
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The campaign is led by open bigots like Pamela Geller who is on record calling for the destruction of the Golden Dome Mosque so a Jewish temple can be built in its place, and who recently argued that Hitler adopted Jihad and was inspired by Islam to commit the Holocaust. She is also on record “praying” for a nuclear war between Iran and Israel that would give the latter the opportunity to nuke Tehran, Mecca, and [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
ATTACK ON NEWS PRESENTERS FOR TELLING IT AS IT IS:
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Sean Hannity of the Fox News and Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch, succeeded in setting the tone of the current debate. They have referred to the proposed Islamic center as a “triumphant mosque” claiming that it is customary for Muslims to build such mosques after defeating their enemies. They called the plan to build an Islamic center two blocks away from ground zero a provocation intended to upset the families of the victims of 9/11. They even argued that the site of 9/11 is a hallowed ground and should hence be made inaccessible for Muslims to build an Islamic Center two blocks away from its site.[source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
REALITY, In reality, Officials of Islam, Caliphs, have done just that, set up Mosques after they have inflicted an injury on their enemy, so why is it unreasonable to think this is not still the Standard Operating Procedure? Let’s look at some facts and sources:
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The Ground Zero Mosque and Conquest
Vinod Kumar
Having worked in Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam and the home of its most extreme form, Wahhabism, I was shocked that a New York City neighborhood community board, in its ignorance, recently voted 29 to 1 to support a request to build a mosque and a Muslim center near Ground Zero.
Muslims have always built mosques on the sites of their conquests. The Prophet Muhammad himself made the Ka'aba, a pagan pantheon, into a mosque after he captured Mecca in 630 CE. The Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem was deliberately built near the Temple Mount, the holiest places in Judaism. The Ummayad mosque in Damascus was built on the site of the Church of Saint John. Babri mosque in Ayodhya, India was built by demolishing a Hindu temple at the site of Hinduism's Lord Rama's birthplace. They built mosques on the sites of thousands of temples throughout India.
The request to build a mosque near the site of the World Trade Center is not accidental. It is astute and deliberate, as is the decision to call the place Cordoba House. Cordoba is city in Spain that resonates mightily in Muslim history. It was the capital of the Islamic empire in Spain. It was the place where Islam established its first caliphate in Europe. The Grand Cordoba Mosque was built where a Visigoth Christian church stood.
In 1932 Allama Iqbal, the spiritual father of Pakistan, when it was still part of British India, visited Spain to see the Grand Mosque, now called the Holy Cathedral. He prayed there though such worship was prohibited by the Spanish government, and composed a poem titled Masjid-e-Qurtaba that includes the following lines: "Sacred for lovers of art, though art the glory of faith. Thou hast made Andalusia pure as a holy land."
All devout Muslims are certain that Islam will someday conquer Spain because Islam teaches that once a place has been absorbed into the ummah, the worldwide community of Islam, it must remain Muslim forever. If the infidels retake Cordoba and Spain, for instance, then Muslims are obliged to conquer it again.
Though they cannot be measured, symbols are powerful in every civilization, especially the Islamic one. New Yorkers should remember that before they blithely allow Cordoba House to be built in their town.
The author, citizen of US, born in India has worked in India, Middle East, Europe and the US. An engineer by profession, he has studied Islam and Islamic history of India for the past two decades.
[SOURCE – retrieved from www.americanthinker.com/blog/...e_and_con.html on 8/30/2010]
Other sources of information:
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It became a standard practice to destroy an Indian, Persian, Zoroastrian, Buddhist, Jewish or Christian temple and build a mosque on its ruins. This was always interpreted by historians as a kind of one upmanship. A way to demonstrate the superiority of Islam and humiliate the defeated. Koenraad Elst in his recent book NEGATIONISM IN INDIA writes: "In all the lands it conquered, Islam has replaced indigenous places of worship with mosques. In Iran, there are no ancient Zoroastrians or Manichean shrines left. In Central Asia, there are no Buddhist temples left. Similarly, in India (except the far South where Islam penetrated rather late) there are practically no Hindu temples that have survived the Muslim period (over 10,000 destroyed). But there are thousands of mosques built on the foundations of Hindu temples (for example, the Ayodhya temple)." In my opinion, this Islamic behavior was more than an exhibition of cruel superiority. It was based on the pagan belief that they would acquire the power of the defeated peoples by absorbing their Holy Places and making them theirs. [SOURCE - ISRAEL'S SACRED PLACES:
Why The Arab Thrust To Seize Control of Them, at christianactionforisrael.org/sacred_places.html ]
HIGH SOUNDING PROPAGANDA TO HIDE THE FACT THAT EQUAL RIGHTS ARE WITHHELD IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES:
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Will we see more principled voices in the face of shameless demagoguery? If 9/11 shocks has not penetrated into the soul of America and has not changed its spirit then America will once again reject the voices of intolerance and push the bigots back into their dark corners where they belong. [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
As I have said before,
Let’s have fairness; to wit, equal treatment in Muslim countries for Christians
What is fair for one, should be fair for the other.
PROPAGANDA WRITERS TRY TO SMEAR GOOD PEOPLE BY LINKING THEM TO BAD ONES:
See the proof for yourself that the propagandist is trying to link outstanding people to Gellar – what an abomination and distortion of truth.
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Geller, along with her network of likeminded Muslim bashers, including
Sean Hannity of the Fox News and Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch, succeeded in setting the tone of the current debate. They have referred to the proposed Islamic center as a “triumphant mosque” claiming that it is customary for Muslims to build such mosques after defeating their enemies. They called the plan to build an Islamic
center two blocks away from ground zero a provocation intended to upset the families of the victims of 9/11. They even argued that the site of 9/11 is a hallowed ground and should hence be made inaccessible for Muslims to build an Islamic Center two blocks away from its site. [source - www.muslims.net/news/newsfull.php?newid=406484]
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