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Post by iris89 on Mar 26, 2011 14:48:12 GMT -5
Islam Does Not Believe In Freedom of Religion or The Rights Of The True Owners of Land To Reoccupy Their Own Property: Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. As Congressman Peter King of New York put it, “there is no equivalency of threat between al-Qaeda and neo-Nazis, environmental extremists or other isolated madmen. Only al-Qaeda and its Islamist affiliates in this country are part of an international threat to our nation. Indeed, by the Justice Department's own record, not one terror-related case in the last two years involved neo-Nazis, environmental extremists, militias or anti-war groups.” [source - retrieved from www.meforum.org/2851/weeping-and-other-hysterics-have-muslim on 3/14/2011] As to members of Islam believing in freedom of religion, one need only look at Egypt to see that they do NOT. Here are some examples to prove this statement. 1] On March 5, 2011 members of Islam attacked, plundered, and set ablaze the ancient Coptic church in the village of Sool, not far from Cairo. Afterwards they destroyed all the relics in it and hammered the walls down. 2] Many Christian girls are being abducted and raped in Egypt and the Coptic community is being terrorized. 3] A rampage initiated by members of Islam killing each other and Christians over an affair between a so called Christian man and a Muslim women. [[for more information, go to, No 'Revolution' for Egypt's Christians,’ by Raymond Ibrahim, FrontPageMagazine.com, March 22, 2011, at www.meforum.org/2855/no-revolution-for-egypt-christians ]] However, members of Islam do not even want religious freedom for none-Muslims in so called Christian lands as shown by an incident reported in the St. Cloud Times, May 12, 2010, by Dave Aeikens. Here is the substance of this article: “A St. Cloud State University student in a teacher-training program at Technical High School left the school in late April because he says he feared for the safety of his service dog. … Hurd said a student threatened to kill his service dog named Emmitt. The black lab is trained to protect Hurd when he has seizures. The seizures, which can occur weekly, are from a childhood injury. The dog has a pouch on his side that assists those who stop to help Hurd. Hurd said he was unable to finish his 50 hours of field training at Tech. The university waived the remaining 10 hours, he said. He plans to do his student teaching outside a high school setting. “We came up with a solution because I felt threatened by it," Hurd said. … Kate Steffens, dean of the college of education at St. Cloud State, and Tech assistant principal Lori Lockhart met Thursday. The threat came from a Somali student who is Muslim, according to Hurd, St. Cloud State and school district officials. The Muslim faith, which is the dominant faith of Somali immigrants, forbids the touching of dogs.” So now members of Islam even want to force their beliefs on others in the United States, what gull and a complete disregard for the right to religious freedom for others. As can readily be seen, in lands where members of Islam hold power, freedom of religion really does not exist, but in western lands members of Islam get freedom of religion, but many do NOT behave themselves. To add insult to insult, many members of Islam still claim Spain is theirs as they wrongly occupied it in the Seventh Century. They fail to recognize reality, they stole the land and illegally occupied it until they were driven out. History shows the following in brief: Also, hateful, greedy, and lustful for violence members of Islam set out in the Eighth Century to steal all of Spain and to kill all that resisted, " In 711 AD, the non-White Muslim invasion finally reached Spain, having swept up out of the Saudi Arabian peninsula, conquered Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and North Africa to the Gibraltar Strait. Launching a ferocious assault across the narrow strait, the Muslims defeated the Gothic kingdom in stages and managed to establish what became known as Moorish rule over the greatest part of Spain and Portugal, with only the very northern parts remaining in Gothic hands." [source - MARCH OF THE TITANS - A HISTORY OF THE WHITE RACE, Chapter 22: Lessons in Decline: Spain and Portugal]. They also claim Palestine is theirs because they illegally occupied it in the Seventh Century and fail to recognize that the land was given to the Hebrews by the supreme power in the universe, Almighty God, YHWH, as recorded at Numbers 34:1-29 (Authorized King James Bible; AV). Now after their long wrongful occupancy, they still refuse to unoccupy the land and return to where their ancestors came from. Greed at its worse since they should NOT only remove themselves from the Hebrew’s land, but should also pay for their long wrongful occupancy and use of the land.
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Post by iris89 on Mar 28, 2011 19:53:22 GMT -5
Sequel #1 To Islam Does Not Believe In Freedom of Religion or The Rights Of The True Owners of Land To Reoccupy Their Own Property: Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. An article appearing in the ‘Front Page Magazine,’ of 3/28/11, by Raymond Ibrahim, titled, “Muslim Jihad in Christian Ethiopia – Lessons for the West,” clearly shows that Islam does NOT believe in freedom of religion, the rights of others, and has absolutely no love for others; yet they want and demand religious freedom in western lands, something they will NOT give in lands they control – what hypocrisy. Now let’s look at the article that clearly shows how they regard others. [source - retrieved from www.meforum.org/2867/jihad-ethiopia-christians on 3/28/2011] Not only does last week's jihadist rampage against Ethiopia's Christians highlight the travails Christians encounter wherever Islam has a sizable population, but it offers several insights, including some which should concern faraway, secular nations with Muslim minorities. According to Fox News: Remains of one of the churches destroyed during the Muslim rampage.Thousands of Christians have been forced to flee their homes in Western Ethiopia after Muslim extremists set fire to roughly 50 churches and dozens of Christian homes. At least one Christian has been killed, many more have been injured and anywhere from 3,000 to 10,000 have been displaced in the attacks that began March 2 after a Christian in the community of Asendabo was accused of desecrating the Koran. For starters, this "medieval" attack is a reminder that countless churches have been destroyed or desecrated by jihadist terror since Islam rose to power in the Medieval era, evincing centuries of continuity. While the media may mention the more "spectacular" attacks on churches—in Iraq, in Egypt—most attacks go either unreported or underreported. (Some Muslim nations, such as U.S. "friend-and-ally" Saudi Arabia, nip it in the bud by outlawing churches in the first place.) Moreover, the dubious excuse used to justify this latest barbarous outburst—"desecration of the Koran"—is a reminder of the double-standards Bibles suffer in the Islamic world, where they are routinely confiscated and burned. Indeed, even as Muslim Ethiopians were rampaging, Muslim nations hailed as being "moderate"—Malaysia and Bangladesh—also made headlines last week with their deplorable treatment of Christians and Bibles. Worse, the West helps standardize such a biased approach: the U.S. government—Obama, Hillary, and any number of other grandstanding politicians—rose up in condemnation when a virtually anonymous, small-town pastor threatened to burn the Koran, while saying nary a word about the countless Bibles daily mutilated in the Muslim world. Dispossessed Ethiopians pray.Such a gutless approach is not surprising considering the sort of people who advise the military, such as Lt. Cmdr. Youssef Aboul-Enein, who recommends that, if ever an American soldier desecrates a Koran, U.S. leadership must offer "unconditional apologies," and emulate the words of Maj. Gen. Jeffrey Hammond: "I come before you [Muslims] seeking your forgiveness, in the most humble manner I look in your eyes today, and say please forgive me and my soldiers," followed by abjectly kissing a new Koran (Militant Islamist Ideology, p. 26). Finally, for those Western observers who live beyond the moment and have an interest in the big picture, the long run—the world bequeathed to future generations—the issue of numbers revealed by this Ethiopian anecdote should give cause to pause. The Fox News report continues: The string of attacks comes on the heels of several reports of growing anti-Christian tension and violence around the country where Muslims make up roughly one-third of the total population but more than 90 percent of the population in certain areas, 2007 Census data shows. One of those areas is Besheno where, on November 9, all the Christians in the city woke up to find notes on their doors warning them to convert to Islam, leave the city or face death. As Jonathan Racho, an official at International Christian Concern, said, "It's extremely disconcerting that in Ethiopia, where Christians are the majority, they are also the victims of persecution." This oddity is explained by Prime Minister Meles Zenawi's assertion that Ethiopian Islamists "have changed their tactics and they have been able to camouflage their activities through legal channels"—a strategy regularly implemented by Islamists wherever they are outnumbered, like in the U.S., prompting countermeasures such as Islamist Watch and the Legal Project. That Muslims are an otherwise peaceable minority group in Ethiopia, but in enclaves where they represent the majority, they attack their outnumbered Christian countrymen—giving them a tweaked version of Islam's three choices to infidels—suggests that Muslim aggression and passivity are very much rooted in numbers: the more Muslims, the more potential for "assertive" behavior. Ethiopia has some of the world's oldest churches, including St. Mary of Zion, which was originally built in the 4th century but nearly destroyed during a 16th century jihad waged by the Somali Ahmad ibn Ibrahim.This has lessons for the West, especially Europe, which in recent years has seen an unprecedented influx of Muslim immigrants, reaching some 53 million, a number expected to "nearly double by 2015, while the non-Muslim will shrink by 3.5%," due to higher Muslim birth rates. In short, it is a matter of time before Muslims account for significant numbers in Europe—perhaps not the majority, but, as the Ethiopian example establishes, a majority is not necessary for the winds of jihad to blow. Indeed, the story of Islam's entry into Ethiopia, one of the oldest Christian civilizations, is illustrative. Around 615, when the pagan Quraysh were persecuting Muhammad's outnumbered Muslim followers in Arabia, some fled to Ethiopia seeking sanctuary. The Christian king, or "Negus" of Ethiopia, welcomed and protected these Muslim fugitives, ignoring Quraysh demands to return them—and thus winning Muhammad's gratefulness. Today, 14 centuries later, when Islam has carved itself a solid niche in Ethiopia, accounting for 1/3 of the population, Muslim gratefulness has turned to something else—not least a warning to Western states. (Raymond Ibrahim is associate director of the Middle East Forum)
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Post by iris89 on Apr 1, 2011 12:58:28 GMT -5
Sequel #2 To Islam Does Not Believe In Freedom of Religion or The Rights Of The True Owners of Land To Reoccupy Their Own Property: As I have stated before; Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. Members of Islam are violently attacking so called Christians in Iraq according to information from the Catholic Education Resource Center as found at www.catholiceducation.org/articles/persecution/pch0263.html . This once more shows how violent Islam is. For details on how violent Islam has been from its inception, go to: religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=recognize&action=display&thread=1180019585 Here is an excerpt from what the Catholic Education Resource Center stated: “His wrath upon their heads FATHER RAYMOND J. DE SOUZA The blood of Baghdad screams out to heaven and earth. May we now speak of the Muslims who want to kill us? … But let us speak frankly of those Islamic jihadists who wish to kill Christians because they are not Muslims. On Oct. 31 in Baghdad, an al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist group stormed into the cathedral of the Syriac Catholic Church, Our Lady of Salvation, during the evening Mass. They immediately killed the priest offering the Holy Mass – three priests in all were murdered. They began shooting and held the congregation hostage while security forces surrounded the church. When the police stormed the church, the jihadists began killing those inside; some of them set off suicide bombs on their belts. Dozens of Catholics were killed. The blood of Abel, the first innocent to be killed, cried out to heaven. The blood of these latest Iraqi martyrs screams out to heaven and Earth. Does the world want to listen? "Christians are slaughtered in Iraq, in their homes and churches, and the so-called 'free' world is watching in complete indifference, interested only in responding in a way that is politically correct and economically opportune, but in reality is hypocritical," said Syriac Catholic Patriarch Ignace Joseph III Younan after these latest killings. "There are a few churches and Christian institutions left in Baghdad, not so great a number that it is not unreasonable for them to be protected, security-wise," he continued, noting that the security being provided by the government is "far less than what we have hoped for and requested." By now the killing of Christians by jihadists (members of Islam0 has become a regular feature of the landscape in Iraq and throughout the Middle East. Yet a massacre in a church, during the Holy Mass, surely would provoke a thunderous reaction? "We condemn in the strongest terms those who would conduct such a cowardly, vicious and senseless attack on innocent civilians in a place of worship," said the boilerplate statement from Lawrence Cannon, Canada's foreign minister. No mention of who "those" attackers might be. The Rotary Club? Salvation Army? The American State Department had no statement at all. In the Church too, there is often a reluctance to support vigorously Christians under attack, and to call things by name. "As in the past and still existent today, some imbalances are present in our relations," is how the final statement of the recent Synod of Bishops on the Middle East characterized Christian-Muslim relations. Imbalances? As in the imbalance between the jihadist (members of Islam) firing the gun and the Catholic mother being riddled with bullets? Then there was the statement by Bishop Kevin Farrell of Dallas, which was utterly astonishing. After simply describing the massacre, he boldly pointed the finger of blame: "The level of incivility in our national dialogue has reached a crescendo," Farrell wrote. "Catholics in Iraq specifically link the violence against them by Muslim extremists to anti-Muslim demonstrations and threats to burn the Koran in the United States (note, they regularly burn copies of the Bible in many Arab countries.). Our actions have consequences far beyond our control. ... “ … "Vengeance is mine says the Lord." So Scripture teaches us, and so it must be for us, leaving vengeance to the Lord, and imploring the grace of reconciliation and mercy. But let us not blanch from raising our voices to the Lord, with righteous anger and hot tears, to visit His vengeance upon those who did this, to bring down His wrath upon their heads, to exact upon them a terrifying price in full measure for their grievous sins. That's not the language of hatred; it is the language of the shepherd when the flock is being slaughtered. To learn more, check out the following: [1] religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum [2] www.network54.com/Forum/403209 A Forum Devoted to Exposing The False Religion of Islam [3] jude3.proboards92.com/ A Free-Speech Forum For All [4] www.freewebs.com/iris_the_preacher My web site. Your Friend in Christ Iris89
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Post by iris89 on Apr 1, 2011 13:01:20 GMT -5
Sequel #3 to Islam Does Not Believe In Freedom of Religion or The Rights Of The True Owners of Land To Reoccupy Their Own Property: INTRODUCTION: Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. As Congressman Peter King of New York put it, “there is no equivalency of threat between al-Qaeda and neo-Nazis, environmental extremists or other isolated madmen. Only al-Qaeda and its Islamist affiliates in this country are part of an international threat to our nation. Indeed, by the Justice Department's own record, not one terror-related case in the last two years involved neo-Nazis, environmental extremists, militias or anti-war groups.” [source - retrieved from www.meforum.org/2851/weeping-and-other-hysterics-have-muslim on 3/14/2011 REALITIES BY EXAMPLE: No regard for the right of others to freedom of religion: Here is a glimpse into the reality behind the benign picture of Sharia that Islamic spokesmen in the West are busy painting now as more and more states consider anti-Sharia laws. "Muslims Attack Christian in Egypt, Cut Off His Ear," by Mary Abdelmassih for AINA, March 26: (AINA) -- A group of Muslims attacked Ayman Anwar Mitri, a 45 year old Christian Coptic man in the Upper Egyptian town of Qena, cutting off his ear. The Muslims claimed they were applying Sharia law because Mr. Mitri allegedly had an illicit affair with a Muslim woman. The Muslims called the police and told them "We have applied the law of Allah, now come and apply your law," according to Mr. Mitri in an interview for the Egyptian Human Rights Organization. Mr. Mitri, a low grade administrator at a secondary school, from elHasweya, in Qena, 492 KM from Cairo, had rented his flat to two Muslim sisters, Abeer and Sabrin Saif Al-Nasr, through an agent. After nine months he learned the sisters had been indicted for prostitution, so he asked them to leave and they did. On Sunday, March 20 Mr. Mitri was informed by a friend via a phone call at 4 AM that the flat where the Muslim sisters lived was on fire; he went to the flat. While waiting in the torched flat a Muslim named Alaa el Sunni came and berated him for renting his flat to prostitutes. "I tried to calm him down," said Mr. Mitri, "and told him I knew nothing about the two women since they came through an agent." Alaa suggested they would go somewhere quiet to clear the misunderstanding. They went to the flat of Mr. Mitri's friend Khaled, a policeman, where 12 Muslims were waiting for him. They started beating him and saying "We will teach you a lesson, Christian" and "This serves your right for renting your property to prostitutes." … Remembering his ordeal, he said that they sat him on a chair and a Muslim named elHusseiny cut his right ear off. "I felt so shocked that I do not even know what tool he used." They also made a a 10cm cut at the back of his neck, cut his other ear, his face and his arm (video showing wounds). Mr. Mitri said they wanted to throw him off the fifth floor but Khaled objected, saying he would get into trouble for just being there, since he is a policeman. Mr. Mitri said that the Muslims tried to convert him to Islam, but he refused. The Muslims then called the police and told them to come and get the Copt saying "We have applied the law of Allah, now come and apply your civil law."... [source - retrieved from www.jihadwatch.org/2011/03/egypt-muslims-attack-christian-cut-off-his-ear-we-have-applied-the-law-of-allah-now-come-and-apply-y.html on 4//12011] Another example of same: TESTING THE FAITH Muslims attack fleeing Christians with acid 9 women, 4 children injured by rampage Posted: July 04, 2009 12:25 am Eastern © 2011 WorldNetDaily A door to a Christian's home in Pakistan demolished by a Muslim mob in this photograph from the Barnabas Aid Muslims apparently angered because a Christian man driving a tractor reportedly tried to pass a Muslim on a motorcycle have rampaged in one village in Pakistan, destroying Christians' homes and throwing acid on women and children as they fled, according to a new report from Barnabas Aid. The ministry reported that the violence this week happened in the village of Bahmani Walla in Punjab state in Pakistan, which is dominated by Islamic influences. The report said 600 Muslims used gasoline bombs to vandalize 117 homes belonging to Christians – including 48 damaged by fire, and sabotage water pumps and cut electricity. According to the report, the violence apparently stemmed from an incident one night earlier, "in which a Christian man driving a tractor requested that a Muslim man riding a motorcycle allow him to pass." "The request was refused and a disagreement ensued," said the Christian ministry that directs financial support to projects that help Christians "where they suffer discrimination, oppression and persecution as a consequence of their faith." Following the confrontation, news was spread among Muslims that there had been blasphemy against Islam, and it took only a few hours for a 600-strong mob of Muslims to assemble and begin the attack. Cars and trucks owned by Christians were burned or stolen, jewelry and cash were taken and the next morning found Christian business owners facing a boycott. Wreckage of a Christian's home damaged by a Muslim mob in this photograph from the Barnabas Aid"The most disturbing development was the throwing of acid at the Christians as they fled. At least nine women and four children have been injured," the Christian ministry reported. While blasphemy carries a death penalty in Pakistan, there is no punishment available for making a false accusation that someone was guilty of the crime, the ministry said. "Please pray for our Christian brothers and sisters in Bahmani Walla, who have suffered in this shocking attack, pray that the authorities will investigate thoroughly and bring to justice the perpetrators," said Patrick Sookhdeo, the international director for Barnabas Aid. The organization also is accepting contributions to help some of the Christians deal with the needs of housing and food while their homes are restored and their lives re-assembled. [source - retrieved from www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=102978 on 4/1/2011] Here is another example to prove the introduction: Indonesia: Thousands of enraged Muslims attack Christian center, destroy cars, burn buildings Why? There were rumors that the Christians were going to build a church. Sharia forbids Christians to build new churches or repair old ones. "West Java, thousands of Islamic extremists attack a Christian center," by Mathias Hariyadi for AsiaNews, April 28 (thanks to Block Ness): Jakarta (AsiaNews) - Thousands of Muslim extremists attacked a Christian educational center in Bogor regency, West Java province, Indonesia. The toll from yesterday's attack is three destroyed cars and several buildings damaged or burnt. The wrath of fundamentalists was unleashed, and encouraged by the local Council of Ulema (MUI), by unsubstantiated rumours that the Christian community BKP Penabur were planning "to build a place of worship" within the complex. Targeted attacks against the Christian community continue in the regency of Bogor, coupled with the impotence of the Indonesian authorities unable to stop the violence with a religious background. Yesterday morning, thousands of Islamic extremists attacked and set fire to the center of the Foundation Penabur BPK, despite the garrison erected earlier by hundreds of police. The fundamentalists destroyed and burned three cars a part of the 10 buildings that make up the whole Christian complex. The Muslims anger was spurred on by rumours that the leaders of the foundation wanted to construct a chapel. The rumours were groundless, but were enough to ignite minds and incite the crowd. Local sources, on condition of anonymity, tell AsiaNews that the attackers were "people from the neighbouring sub-districts Cisaura and Ciawi. One detail that, in reality, shows the attacks were well orchestrated.... [source - retrieved from www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/indonesia-thousands-of-enraged-muslims-attack-christian-center-destroy-cars-burn-buildings.html on 4/1/2011]
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Post by iris89 on Apr 2, 2011 6:11:45 GMT -5
Sequel #4 To Islam Does Not Believe In Freedom of Religion or The Rights Of The True Owners of Land To Reoccupy Their Own Property: INTRODUCTION: Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. Also, any religion that burns the Holy Books of another religion has absolutely no right to protest or commit violence when their Holy Book is burned. All should have freedom of religion and equal rights. Of course, book burning is wrong, but if one group regularly does it; they should expect the other group whose Holy Book they are burning to also burn their Holy Book [Note, genuine true followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ would never participate in this childish tit for tat wrong practice.]. BIBLE BURNING A REGULAR MUSLIM PRACTICE: Now let’s look at reality by examining several representative examples of Bible burning by members of Islam that show this despicable act is a standard operating practice (SOP) for Islam: * 1) Christians in Gaza Fear for Their Lives as Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses, by Kimberly West, Yahoo! Contributor Network, Jun 18, 2007 After defeating their rivals in Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah movement, Muslim extremists are focusing their attacks on Christians in Gaza City. Christians in Gaza City have issued an appeal to the international community and a plea for protection against the increased attacks by Muslim extremists. Father Manuel Musallem, head of Gaza's Latin church, told the AP that Muslims have ransacked, burned and looted a school and convent that are part of the Gaza Strip's small Romany Catholic community. He told the AP that crosses were broken, damage was done to a statue of Jesus, and at the Rosary Sister School and nearby convent, prayer books were burned. Gunmen used the roof of the school during the fighting, and the convent was "desecrated," Mussalem told the AP. "Nothing happens by mistake these days," he said. Father Musalam additionally told The Jerusalem Post that the Muslim gunmen used rocket-propeled grenades (RPGs) to blow through the doors of the church and school, before burning Bibles and destroying every cross they could get their hands on. Catholic Online reports that the heads of Christian churches in the Holy Land have urged both sides to put aside their weapons, noting that the infighting diverted international attention from the national goal of Palestinian independence. "This domestic fighting where brother draws his weapon against brother is detrimental to all the aspirations of achieving security and stability for the Palestinian people," they said. "In the name of the one and only God as well as in the name of each devastated Palestinian, many of whom are still dying, we urge our brothers in the Fatah and Hamas movements to listen to the voice of reason, truth and wisdom." [source - retrieved from www.associatedcontent.com/article/285123/christians_in_gaza_fear_for_their_lives.html on 4/1/2011] 2) FLAMES AND ASHES OF BIBLES AND CHURCHES IN SHANTI NAGAR KHANEWAL, PAKISTAN. On February 5th & 6 th 1997 in the presence of the cries-screams and tears of a very harmless, armless (no weapons) & peace loving a tiny community, an unprecidental,horrifying attack was made by the muslim believers,the citizens of the same country on the Christians who are in extreme minority.
The citizens who were attacked are the waeker section of the same society which have been living from many centuries together in harmony and brotherhood but the Islamization imposed by General Zia-ul-Haq and then later on the introduction of different Islamic laws, particulary the Blaspemy laws have created an atmospere of hatred prejudice and jealously against the citizens who have been working for the freedom of this land.
According to different news papers and interviews taken by different Human Rights-Social Activists and Religious leaders, nearly 75 thousand Muslims from the surrounding villages, towns, cities (Kabirwala, Mian Channoo, Khanewal and Multan) got gathered by a pre-planned plot mad by the Police officials of the Police Station Khanewal Saddar and the fundamentalists leaders fully equipped with all modern and latest sophisticated waepons, marched as an army towards the Christians Churches, Hostels, Dispensaries and Houses. The clouds of the smoke, the high degree of heat of flames, the screams and cries of the people whose belongings were burnt to ashes, their Bibles and Hymn books were also torched and blazed into ashes. This attack was not made by any foreign land people, but it was attacked by the people of the same country. Actually this was an uncountable crowd of the believers who were raising slogans. "Kill the Christians because they are Blasphemers towards the Holy Quran and Holy Prophet".
The facts collected actually have been stated by the Muslims who are witnessing the brutal scene when it was being staged and played by the brutal people of the police and Islamic fundamentalist. Some of Muslims though they tried to bring the situation calm and quiet so that bad name should not come on the Muslims but the Muslims Mosque Priests and Political leaders from both parties were also inciting to burn every thing of the Christians which come in their way. The press media has been very active to communicate to the masses of the pathetic, horrifying scene where 15 hundered houses, shops, stores and 13 Churches and over 1500 Bibles and hymn books and religious commentaries were burnt into ashes in Shanti Nagar Khanewal, Punjab, Pakistan. Though the experienced journalists of different News Papers, Journals and Magazines have also provided some clues that police officials were more responsible than the simple and illiterate Muslims.
Facts finding team comprising of Human rights social activists and religous Rev. John Victor Mall, Rev. William Johnson, Mr. David Paul, Mr. J.D.Gill, Mr. Niamat Bernard, Mr. Patras went on 9th Feb, 1007 from Lahore to Khanewal and Shanti Nagar. Whatever facts and figure they had found is being stated.
On the way this team took two very responsible and trust worthy persons Chaudhary Fateh Jang, and Mr. John Harnam from Chak No. 135 Stuntzabad so that they could be guide to the team in Shanti Nagar as they had very close relatives as well as they also belong to the same District of Khanewal. Though the press media has given the cause of attach on the Christians accusing them some Christians had desecrated the Holy Quran. As some pages of the Holy Quran had been torn and thrown in a mosque. Therefore, the Muslims got gathered and attacked on the Christian's village and Churches. That was self made story by the Muslims. Actually no Christian had committed any crime of such nature of Blaspemy.
There thirteen Churches have been desecrated, furniture and the altar has been ransacked. Over 1500 Bibles and Hymn books have been burnt into ashes. Besides over 1500 houses and belongings of the people have been ransacked in Shanti Nagar.
This team believes that this in human plot was concieved by the police especially by SHO Aziz-ur-Rehman Dogar, Head Constable Noor Nabi and ASI Mohammad Sadiq. The man who is being accused of desecrating the Holy Quran and writing derogatory remarks about the Prophet is a tonga driver, and is illiterate. Actually no Christian in Pakistan can ever think, dare to say or do some thing against Islam.
The flames of fire are still to be seen and smelt in the village and houses have been destroyed with ammunition like petrol bombs and grenades. Concrete ceilings have been blown away which clearly indicate that forces beyond human strength was used. We the leaders of the Christian Community and human rights activist are convinced, that this was a planned plot against the Christrians to eliminate then completely.
Some points are worth to be considered: 1. The mosgue at 6.5 Km from Khanewal & from Shanti Nagar which is said where the papers from the Holy Quran were thrown by some Christians while there is also one mosque in the village of Shanti Nagar where such torn papers were much easier to throw there but no one had thrown there, neither here and nor there. This was a false accusation on the Christians as wolf makes a false accusation on the lamb that why he was making the water dirty. He had to drink. The lamb said "Sir water is coming from your side" The wolf said; I will eat him becuase he was abusing last year. The lamb said, "Sir I was not born last year", The wolf said, "if you were not, then it may be your father so I will eat your". 2. This is the same Khanewal where one Deputy Commissioner belonging to Shia Sect was killed. 3. There is one very strong hold of one notorious Islamic Extremist Organization which is considered as Islamic Terrorist Organization. 4. It is learnt through some Muslims of the area their names due to security reason have not been mentioned that some police officials and Islamic organization had planned to give a lesson to the Christians that why there were demonstrating against the police officers when police had insulted the Holy Bible. 5. The first announcement on the loud speaker was made in the Jamiah Masjad Gapwail-Khanewal at about 10.30 pm on Feb 5, 1997 & then three motor cyclists with megaphone were creating confusion, hatred and instigating the Muslims against the Christians saying, "The Christians had burnt the Holy Quran in the Mosque of Shanti Nagar." 6. The three persons Rana Latif, Rana Sarwar and Rana Baga from Ariah Nagar were riding on motor cycles came some minuets earlier than the demonstrators, they told the Christian to vacate their houses, Churches because a very huge procession would be peaceful, better the Christians should go out of the village. Exactly the same words were of the police and the Area Magistrate Mr. Mohammad Aslam had the powers to disperse procession but the reason is not known that why he was not bold. He and other officers shown insensitivity. … [source - retrieved from www.balaams-ass.com/alhaj/flames.htm on 4/1/2011] 3) Australia : Muslim Students Urinate, Spit On Then Burn Bible. Uh oh, does this mean the worlds 2 billion Christians are gonna start rioting in the streets and calling for the blood of Muslims to be spilled? Hmmm probably not, but I'm sure the MSM will report this at and make it front page headlines for a month just like the Koran desecrations : [source - retrieved from justifythis.blogspot.com/2006/12/australia-muslim-students-urinate-spit.html on 4/1/2011] 4) Wahabi Imam to burn the Bible in Cairo! The question is why didn’t the western and most influential mediacomment on this racist and discriminatory incident? The diehard bigots and hypocrite racists who want to burn Quran and smear Islam are the real terrorists. [source - retrieved from www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=25885 on 4/1/2011] 5) Pakistan Muslims burn Bible, Posted in the Islam Forum, by Samiullah Muslims burn Bible in Pakistan Near Faisalabad, Muslim extremists desecrated a church and burnt a Bible. Local Muslims come out in support of the devastated Christians. Desecration at the church of St. Paul in the village ‘Chak 77-RB’,‘Lohekay’, about 30 kilometers from Faisalabad: on December 17, suspects burned a bible and other sacred texts, leaving a letter threatening Christians that they will "burn in the fire of hell" if they do not convert to Islam. Bible burning is happening in Muslim world every now and then. when a Koran is rumoured to be burnt, so much juumping up and down by the Muslims around the wortld. [source - retrieved from www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TS5GV1EH7LUB2675O on //2011] MUSLIMS SCREAM WHEN TABLES ARE TURNED: Reality - You remember the Golden Rule? From Matthew 7:12: " Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.." (Authorized King James Bible; AV). Members of Islam definitely do not believe in the Golden Rule, but routinely burn Bibles; but scream bloody murder when someone burns their evil Quran. Now let’s look at a case in point that shows this fact: Afghanistan: 12 killed in protest at UN office, By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Deb Riechmann, Associated Press – KABUL, Afghanistan – Thousands of protesters angry over the burning of a Quran by a Florida pastor stormed a U.N. compound Friday in northern Afghanistan, killing at least 12 people, including eight foreigners. The desecration of the Muslim holy book fueled resentment against the West at a critical moment in the Afghan war. The demonstration in Mazar-i-Sharif turned violent when some protesters grabbed weapons from the U.N. guards and opened fire, then mobbed buildings and set fires on the compound, officials said. Demonstrators also massed in Kabul and the western city of Herat. The topic of Quran burning stirred outrage among millions of Muslims and others worldwide after the Rev. Terry Jones' small church, Dove Outreach Center, threatened to destroy a copy of the holy book last year. The Florida pastor had backed down but the church went through with the burning last month. Munir Ahmad Farhad, a spokesman in Balkh province, said the protest in Mazar-i-Sharif began peacefully when several hundred demonstrators gathered outside the U.N. mission's compound, choosing an obvious symbol of the international community's involvement in Afghanistan to denounce the Quran's destruction. It turned violent when some protesters seized the guards' weapons and started shooting, then the crowds stormed the building, sending plumes of black smoke into the air. One protester, Ahmad Gul, a 32-year-old teacher in the city, said Afghan security forces at the scene killed and wounded protesters. Gen. Daud Daud, commander of Afghan National Police in several northern provinces, said those killed included five Nepalese guards who were working for the U.N. and two other foreigners employed at the complex. He said one other foreigner was wounded. Later, Rawof Taj, deputy police chief in Balkh province, said the injured individual had died. Taj said 25 people had been arrested. The nationalities of the other three foreigners was not known. Interior Ministry spokesman Zemeri Bashary said four protesters also were killed and nearly two dozen civilians were wounded. The Russian Foreign Ministry said P.O. Yershov, a Russian citizen who was employed at the U.N. office, was injured in an attack. Dan McNorton, a spokesman for the United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan, confirmed that people working for the U.N. had died in an attack on the operation center, but he could not provide details. "The situation is still confusing and we are currently working to ascertain all the facts and take care of all our staff," he said from his office in Kabul. Staffan de Mistura, the top U.N. official in Afghanistan, had left Kabul for Mazar-i-Sharif to personally handle the situation, he said. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who is in Nairobi, said it was "a cowardly attack that cannot be justified under any circumstances." Deputy U.N. spokesman Farhan Haq said "a fairly substantial number" of U.N. staff and guards had been killed, but he gave no figure. "Among the casualties we believe that some of them were guards trying to protect the other staff," he said. President Barack Obama strongly condemned the attack and stressed the importance of work of the U.N. staff in Afghanistan. "Their work is essential to building a stronger Afghanistan for the benefit of all its citizens. We stress the importance of calm and urge all parties to reject violence and resolve differences through dialogue," Obama said. Mohammad Azim, a businessman in Mazer-i-Sharif, said that clerics with loudspeakers drove around the city in two cars on Thursday to invite residents to the protest. After Friday prayers at a large blue mosque in the city center, clerics again called on worshippers to attend a peaceful protest. When Abdul Karim, a police officer in Mazar-i-Sharif, went inside the compound to investigate, he saw the bullet-riddled bodies of three Nepalese guards lying in the yard, and a fourth on the first floor. He said another victim with a fatal head wound died on a stairway to the basement of the compound, which was littered with broken glass and bullet casings. A man who was killed inside a room had wounds to his face and body, Karim said. Several hundred people also protested the Quran burning at several sites in Herat, a city in western Afghanistan. Protesters burned a U.S. flag at a sports stadium in Herat and chanted "Death to the U.S." and "They broke the heart of Islam." About 100 people also gathered at a traffic circle near the U.S. Embassy in Kabul. Police directed traffic around the demonstration in the capital. One protester carried a sign that said: "We want these bloody bastard Americans with all their forces to leave Afghanistan." The Gainesville, Florida church's website stated that after a five-hour trial on March 20, the Quran "was found guilty and a copy was burned inside the building." A picture on the website shows a book in flames in a small portable fire pit. The church on Friday confirmed that the Quran had been burned. In a statement, Jones did not comment on whether his act had lead to the deaths. Instead he said it was time to "hold Islam accountable" and called on the United States and the U.N. to hold "these countries and people accountable for what they have done as well as for any excuses they may use to promote their terrorist activities." Last week, Afghan President Hamid Karzai issued a statement calling the burning a "crime against a religion." He denounced it as a "disrespectful and abhorrent act" and called on the U.S. and the United Nations to bring to justice those who burned the holy book and issue a response to Muslims around the world. CONCLUSION: Many in Islam have no qualms about burning other people’s Holy Books, but they go way off the ‘deep end’ when anyone burns their Holy Book. They go after individuals that had absolutely nothing to do with it and commit major acts of violence. So as previously stated, members of Islam do not believe in the Golden Rule has clearly been shown! From Matthew 7:12: " Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.." (Authorized King James Bible; AV). Members of Islam definitely do not believe in the Golden Rule, but routinely burn Bibles; but scream bloody murder when someone burns their evil Quran. To learn more, check out the following: [1] religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum [2] www.network54.com/Forum/403209 A Forum Devoted to Exposing The False Religion of Islam [3] jude3.proboards92.com/ A Free-Speech Forum For All [4] www.freewebs.com/iris_the_preacher My web site. Your Friend in Christ Iris89
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Sequel #5 To Islam Does Not Believe In Freedom of Religion or The Rights Of The True Owners of Land To Reoccupy Their Own Property: INTRODUCTION: Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. Yes, members of Islam believe in an abominated form of freedom of religion; to wit, freedom of religion only for Islam and the complete denial of freedom of religion for everyone else. This is definitely NOT freedom of religion for everyone, yet all should have the absolute right to freedom of religion no matter where they live, but Islam is against true freedom of religion. Now let’s look at how Muslims view freedom of religion from an individual experiencing it first hand; to wit, the denial of freedom of religion. DEFINITION OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM: Freedom of religion from New World Encyclopedia The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen guarantees freedom of religious opinion, provided that it "manifestation does not disturb the public order established by law." Freedom of religion is a political principle guaranteeing freedom of belief and freedom of worship for individuals and groups. It is generally recognized to include related freedoms applied to the religious sphere, such as the freedoms of speech (evangelism), press (production and distribution of literature), travel for pilgrimages and meetings, and public assembly for religious purposes. Also included is the right not to follow any religion and to deny or doubt the existence of any deity. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on December 10, 1948, defines freedom of religion and belief as follows: Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes the freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance. (Article 18) While this statement of the principles of religious freedom has yet to be established universally, it has gained wide acceptance throughout much of the world, an indication of the advance of humankind toward the realization of a world of peace. Did you know? In 1948 the United Nations defined freedom of religion as a universal human right. "Save Freedom of Worship," American World War II poster by Norman Rockwell Debates about religious freedom often center on the tension between an individual or group's right to worship (or to refrain from worship) as they please, versus the state's interest in maintaining order by imposing or favoring a particular religious culture supportive of the state. In ancient societies, the king was often also the high priest or even seen as the incarnation of a deity. Thus, religious pluralism that denied the king's religious authority constituted a direct challenge to royal power. Related to religious freedom is the issue of religious tolerance. While tolerance represents a step forward from persecution, mere toleration of religious minorities by governments does not guarantee their religious freedom, since such groups may face significant disadvantages both legally and in terms of their treatment by society. On the other hand, absolute freedom of religious practice is problematic, since this would exempt certain religious groups from laws designed to protect citizens from such practices as human sacrifice or the destruction of "idolatrous" shrines by rival religions. A corollary to the principle of freedom of worship is the freedom to practice religious duties such as pilgrimages, public preaching, and making converts. These duties can sometimes conflict with a state's interests. For example, pilgrimages involve freedom of travel to foreign countries, as well as the entry of foreign citizens into the country in which a particular holy site is located. Public preaching can disrupt "public order" in religiously intolerant societies where the expression of unpopular views can result in riots. Making converts is directly threatening to the religion from which the converts are made. Where state religions are involved, the state itself may also feel directly threatened when people convert from the state religion to another faith.[1] The principle of separation of church and state was designed to prevent states from favoring one religion or a group of religions over minority religions and non-believers. The Christian cross of a war memorial and a menorah for Hanukkah coexist in Oxford, England. However, such religious displays on public property are considered offensive by atheists. Other religious duties also sometimes run afoul of state interests. An extreme example is the practice of human sacrifice, which was common in some ancient societies. Even in cases where this might be carried out voluntarily, few would argue today that banning this practice constitutes an unnecessary abridgment of religious freedom. Female circumcision, also called female genital mutilation (FGN) [Practiced by many members of Islam], is a more contentious issue, with some Muslim groups claiming this to be a religious duty and women's rights groups contending that it constitutes a crime which must be stopped by the state regardless of the opinions of those participating in the practice. … Other examples of religious duties impacting on the state are the right of workers to observe sabbaths and religious holidays without punishment by the employers, the right of minor children to choose a different religion from their parents, the right of prisoners to special religious diets, the right of religious parents to educate their children outside of state schools, the right of atheists not to invoke God in legal oaths and pledges of allegiance, and the question of religious monuments on publicly owned property. While the basic right of freedom of worship is now generally recognized, such issues as those listed above often involve deeply-held beliefs and result in serious disagreements between governments and religious groups. Moreover, in a number of countries, even the more basic rights of religious freedom still are not upheld. In addition, governments of many nations are either unwilling or unable to prevent religiously intolerant groups from harming members of rival religions. [source - retrieved from New World Encyclopedia, at www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Freedom_of_religion on 4/1/2011] FREEDOM OF RELIGION ONLY FOR MUSLIMS, DENIAL TO ALL OTHERS: Here are some actual cases clearly delineating Muslim’s denial of freedom of conscience. 1) Freedom of Religion: Only for Muslims, By Dajjal. Read more: human rights, Islam, freedom of religion 0diggsdigg My email subscription to UNHRC documents turned up an interesting letter from the representative of Cyprus. I keep telling you that freedom of religion is a one way street, few pay any attention. Turkey is interfering with Greek Orthodox services in occupied Cyprus. As I keep telling you, if you ain't Muslim, you have no rights. Perhaps this will give you a clue. Turkey is violating the rights of Christians in occupied Cyprus, interfering with church services, arbitrarily and with outrageous regulations. Upon instructions from my Government, I would like to bring to your attention a grave human rights violation that occurred on 25 December 2010 in the Orthodox church of Saint Synesios, in the town of Rizokarpaso located in the part of Cyprus under the military occupation of Turkey. This issue is directly related to the mandate in accordance with which the yearly reports on the question of human rights in Cyprus are prepared, as provided for in Commission on Human Rights resolution 4 (XXXI) and General Assembly resolution 3450 (XXX).
As confirmed by the United Nations Peacekeeping Force in Cyprus (UNFICYP), on 25 December 2010, security forces of the subordinate local administration of Turkey interrupted an ongoing religious service, forced the priest to remove his liturgical vestments and to terminate the liturgy, ordered the churchgoers, mainly Greek Cypriot enclaved persons, to evacuate, then sealed the church on the pretext that no “permission for the conduct of mass” had been obtained. At the same time, the occupation regime did not allow for a Christmas mass to be held in the Church of the Holy Trinity (Ayia Triada) in the nearby town of Yialoussa. Subsequently, the occupation regime informed UNFICYP that a new “procedure” had been established, whereby prior authorization should be sought 30 days in advance for all scheduled religious services, except those celebrated on Sundays.
These acts contravene the third Vienna agreement of 2 August 1975, which, inter alia, explicitly provides that the Greek Cypriots who remained enclaved behind the military lines in their villages in the north-eastern Karpass peninsula in the aftermath of the Turkish invasion would be “free to stay” and that they would “be given every help to lead a normal life, including facilities for education and for the practice of their religion, as well as medical care by their own doctors and freedom of movement”. Even more serious, these acts constitute a clear violation of international and European human rights law, including article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and articles 3 and 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights.
[source - retrieved from www.bloggersbase.com/politics-and-opinions/freedom-of-religion-muslims/ on 4/1/2011] 2) Comments on UN items that clearly show Islam is bound as a matter of principle to violence, jihad, against others as a part of Islam belief: With one day remaining for submission of a new draft resolution on combating defamation of religions, none having appeared and two days of private OIC meetings, now comes the “Draft Resolution “Freedom of Religion and Belief“ which does not identify its sponsors. This document appears to reflect the American delegation’s stated rejection of the defamation concept. I suspect a clever scheme resolving to subvert our right of free expression by consensus, without a vote. Although slightly sanitized, the draft remains obnoxious to life and liberty. It seeks to criminalize all criticism of Islam, subordinating our right of free expression to the Muslim’s imaginary ‘right’ to shield their d**nable doctrines from critical examination and exposure. It demands tolerance of the intolerable. It demands that our schools be turned into Islamic indoctrination centers. Like most U.N.H.R.C. resolutions, this draft leans heavily on references to previous documents, those I could locate are listed and linked at the end of the post. Reaffirming that all human rights are universal, indivisible, interdependent and interrelated (PP5/HRC/RES/10/25) This is a clever ruse: conflating our right to free expression with the freedom of belief. Their freedom to believe must not in any measure diminish our right to express our opinions about their belief system and practices. Stressing that persons belonging to religious minorities should be able to live safely and to exercise freely their freedom of religion or belief; The right to live, safely, free from threat and assault is a given, already stated in existing human rights covenants. The problem is in the last clause: asserting the right of free exercise of religion or belief. It is not possible that anyone can have a right to exercise their demon’s mandate to invade and conquer us, to rape our widows and enslave our orphans. Such a ‘right’ abrogates our right to live free from attack. Islam imposes fard al-kifaya which binds all eligible adult male male Muslims to engage in a minimum of one military attack against disbelievers in every year. The obligation is discharged against the community when a sufficient number have answered the call to jihad. This fard is codified in Reliance of the Traveller O9.1 The fard is more clearly expressed in this quote from the founder of the Shafi’ite school of fiqh. “The least that the imam must do is that he allow no year to pass without having organised a military expedition by himself, or by his raiding parties, according to the Muslims’ interest, so that the jihad will only be stopped in a year for a (reasonable) excuse.” Jihad is mandatory, not optional. Jihad is the “original religion” of Islam. Jihad is “holy fighting” in “Allah’s cause“, Islamic law defines it as “to war against non-Muslims,”. Islam is inseverable, all or nothing; not cafeteria Catholicism. If Muslims have a right to practice Islam, then we have no right to live, no right to be secure and no right to be free. All of which are confirmed in Sahih Bukhari 1.8.387: “And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us “. Our blood is not sacred to Muslims until we join them in slavery to the demon. Rights must be reciprocal and global. But Islam denies our rights to believe and practice or not as we see fit. Nothing in this resolution alters that fatal fact. 3:2. Allâh! Lâ ilahâ illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. If only Allah has the right to be worshiped, then we have no right to worship any other deity. Let that sink in for a moment before examining a crucial part of Shari’ah. O11.5 [...] -6- are forbidden to openly display wine or pork, (A: to ring church bells or display crosses,) recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals and feastdays; -7- and are forbidden to build new churches. Under Islam, rights are a one way street; only Muslims have them. PP9 Underlining further that schools may offer unique possibilities for constructive dialogue among all parts of society and human rights education in particular can contribute to the elimination of negative stereotypes that often adversely affect members of religious minorities (new, inspired from HRC/16/53 558); They want our schools to indoctrinate our children to tolerate the intolerable. Note the key phrase I have highlighted. “Negative stereotypes” is an equivalent alternative to “defamation”. That is an indirect reference to knowledge of the fact that terrorism is an intrinsic sacrament of Islam. They want that knowledge erased. Stresses that everyone has the right to freedom of belief, which includes the freedom to have or to adopt a religion or belief of one’s choice and the freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest one’s religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance, including the right to change one’s religion or belief; (PP6/UNGA 64/164) The restatement of the free practice demand is redundant, but not the highlighted clause in the last sentence. I suspect that clause was inserted as a poison pill because it directly contradicts Islamic law, which prescribes the death penalty for apostasy. OP2 Emphasizes that freedom of religion or belief and freedom of expression are interdependant, interrelated and mutually reinforcing, and stresses further the role these rights can play in the fight against all forms of intolerance and discrimination based on religion or belief (OP4, UNGA resol 651122). Tolerance of Islam is not possible; the demonic mandate to terrorize & conquer is absolutely intolerable, as are rape, pillage & plunder. Freedom of expression includes the right to speak and write the truth about Islam. That right must not be diminished by any law, national or international or any U.N . resolution! The trials of Elizabeth Sabaditch-Wolff and Geert Wilders for speaking truthfully about Islam are proof of the existing abrogation of the right of free expression. OP4 Condemns all forms of violence, intolerance and discrimination based on or in the name of religion or belief, as well as violations of the freedom of thought, conscience, religion or belief; (OP1, RES/14/11) as well as any advocacy of religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence, whether it involves the use of print, audio-visual or electronic media or any other means; (OP3, RES 14/11) The first highlighted clause is redundant, look to the second. What is the definition of “advocacy of religious hatred”? The Secretary General let the cat out of the bag when he remarked about the short film by Geert Wilders. Reuters quotes U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon about Fitna: “There is no justification for hate speech or incitement to violence,” Ban said in a statement. “The right of free expression is not at stake here.” Fitna describes and demonstrates hate speech & incitement; it is not hate speech neither is it incitement; it is proof of the fact that the Qur’an & hadith are hate speech and incitement. In a just world, it would not be possible to prevent or punish publication of Fitna. The U.N. intends, with high sounding but excessively broad terms, to proscribe truthful expression about Islam. That egregious violation of free speech can not be accepted! OP5 Condemns recent attacks of terrorism targetting individuals belonging to religious groups across the world. What is terrorism? There is no official definition because Muslims reserve attacks on Jews as “justified resistance” OP6 Emphasizes that States have an obligation to protect persons belonging to religious minorities and should exercise due diligence to prevent, investigate and punish actsof violence against them, regardless of the perpetrator, and that failure to do so may constitute a human rights violation (inspired from OP9, UNGA65/211) Why restate the obvious? Governments have no other purpose; they are for protection from attack. If they do not protect their citizens, they are worthless; part of the problem, not part of the solution. Muslims in Pakistan, Indonesia & Egypt can burn churches, attack and kill Christians with impunity. Everybody knows it and nobody will do anything about it, this resolution to the contrary not withstanding. OP6 is an egregious insult. a) To ensure that their constitutional and legislative systems provide adequate and effective guarantees of freedom of thought, conscience and religion or belief to all without distinction, inter alia, by the provision of access to justice and effective remedies in cases where the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion or belief, or the right to freely practise one’s religion, including the right to change one’s religion or belief, is violated ; Which freedom is missing from that section? Which constitutionally protected right does A/RES/65/199 demand be abrogated? Get a clue! To ensure in particular the right of all persons to worship, assemble or teach in connection with a religion or belief and their right to establish and maintain places for these purposes, and the right of all persons to seek, receive and impart information and ideas in these areas; They postulate a right to build mosques, so that we can not proscribe their construction. In reality, mosques are being constructed as outposts from which to mount new attacks. h) To ensure that, in accordance with appropriate national legislation and in conformity with internationa human rights law, the freedom of all persons and members of groups to establish and maintain religious, charitable or humanitarian institutions is fully respected and protected; That section is a thinly veiled attack at proscription of fund raising for terrorism, an attempt to reverse the convictions in the Holy Land Foundation case. (j) To take all necessary and appropriate action, in conformity with international standards of human rights, to combat hatred, discrimination, intolerance and acts of violence, intimidation and coercion motivated by intolerance based on religion or belief, as well as incitement to hostility and violence, with particular regard to members of religious minorities in all parts of the world; This section is redundant but it needs to be addressed again. Islam is intolerable, it is impossible for an informed lover of liberty to tolerate it. “Incitement to hostility and violence”, as defined by the Secretary General, is far too broad; unacceptably so as it would outlaw all truthful expression about Islam. References: * A/RES/36/55 * International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights * A/HRC/RES/14/11 * Resolution 10/25. * A/HRC/16/53 * A/RES/64/164 * A/RES/64/164 * A/HRC/14/L.5 * A/65/211 * A/HRC/16/53 [source - retrieved from snooper.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/freedom-of-religion-and-belief-for-muslims-only/ on 4/1/2011] 3) Islamists Protest Against U.S. Freedom of Speech at U.C. Irvine: Last night the United American Committee, and the College Republicans of University of California Irvine, held a panel discussion regarding the Danish Cartoons, including an unveiling of the cartoons themselves. My friend Laura Wallick and I went in order to support free speech in America, and to support our friend, UAC founder Jesse Petrilla. It turned out the event was so packed (capacity of the UC Irvine auditorium was 450) that we couldn't get in, which left us free to document the very interesting behavior of the crowd of Islamists protesting the event outside. One police officer we spoke to estimated the Islamist protesters as numbering about 1,000. This image is merged from two smaller photos. They had evidently decided that their PR approach was to accuse the College Republicans of "hate speech." A very clever ploy. But how dare they, when all over the world, Islamists are cutting off people's heads, killing women and children, taking people hostage and murdering them, threatening genocide against Jews and carrying out genocide against Muslims in Darfur, and regularly broadcasting hate speech on TV in various Arabic countries? These protesters could easily have condemned those actions; then their pretense that they were in favor of peace, and against hate speech, might mean something. Not one of the Islamist speakers I heard, said a single word against any of the actions I have just itemized. What was particularly shocking was that not one speaker I heard condemned the burning of embassies or the killing of people which took place during the cartoon riots. On the contrary -- at least one speaker supported those riots as making her point. Bear in mind that the speaker was a college-age girl, who sounded very nice, until one listened to what she was saying. She said (from my handwritten notes): They've seen what happened all over the world. What would make a group even show these cartoons except to stir up hate? This speaker did not condemn the violence, the embassy-burnings, the deaths, which appeared to be intended to threaten the free world with violence unless we abandoned our free speech. Instead, she considered the cartoon riots a useful thing that should persuade the free world to abandon free speech; her view was that free speech should be surrendered in favor of speech deemed acceptable by Islam. Look at those signs. "Islam -- The Religion of Peace" -- pretending ignorance of the worldwide jihadist murders. And right next to that a sign saying, "College Republicans The New KKK" -- comparing College Republicans to actual terrorists, the KKK. Another sign reads, "Unveiling Discrimination" -- when it is part of Sharia law that all non-Muslims must pay a special tax, have reduced legal rights, and be second-class citizens, or be killed, or convert to Islam. Who are they kidding with these hypocritical signs? Or the fourth sign pictured above -- "Free Speech [does not equal] Hate Speech" -- when hate speech is broadcast daily in Islamic nations. And note that the sign opposes free speech of which Islam disapproves and defines as "Hate Speech" -- in this case, even the cartoons. In other words, you can say anything you want, as long as Islamists approve of it. Make no mistake, this protest is against free speech, and against the U.S. Constitution which guarantees it. Want to know what some of the other speakers said? Again, bear in mind that the speakers are for the most part college students attending U.C. Irvine. They frame it as freedom of speech, but we have evolved above freedom of speech, beyond hate speech. In other words, speech unacceptable to Muslims, say these protesters, is not to be permitted in America. This is the same anti-Arab and anti-Muslim racism that they're propagating in there, that has given rise to Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, and the anti-immigrant racism that is spreading all across the U.S. Of course, it isn't racism, because it has nothing to do with genetics. The event they protested was about defending our rights to free speech as guaranteed by our Constitution [US Constitution]. An event in support of free speech, these Islamists attack as "racism." It's as violent as they can get short of physical violence. The hate speech is theirs. These protesters want to see happen here, what the Islamists have done so successfully in England and France. Laura and I walked to a Chinese restaurant and had dinner. When we came back, this is what we saw: Given what appears to be the tacit approval by their speakers of Islamist violence in the cartoon riots, I don't think they were praying for world peace, or for peace, love and understanding. [source - retrieved from bigpicweblog.com/exp/index.php/weblog/comments/1000_muslims_protest_against_us_freedom_of_speech_at_uc_irvine on 4/1/2011] See Part 2
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Post by iris89 on Apr 2, 2011 15:13:24 GMT -5
Part 2 SOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF WORLD PEACE: The Pertinent Question, When Should A Religion Be Dissolved In The Interest Of World Peace? To many, this question with regard to when a religion should be dissolved in the interest of world peace may seem unthinkable as all should be granted the basic human right of freedom of conscience – freedom of religion. However, all freedoms must be constrained when they are used to injure and hurt others; to wit, one’s freedom should end when it is used to injure, murder, and hurt others. Many do not realize that good people can be in evil false religions, but this is indeed the case. Many people have difficulty seeing the difference between people, good or bad, and the religion they are in, and feel when someone mentions the evil bad of a false religion they are also talking about the mislead individuals that belong to it. These selfsame people fail to realize that most of mankind is being mislead by the religious leaders of evil false religions and/or egotistical men who believe what they say takes precedence over the Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), the Bible. In addition, it is not what either the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an or other so called holy book actually say, but how religious leaders be they priest and/or imams or muftis or what ever teach the people is the interpretation of what is written either in the Bible or the bible knockoff the Qur'an that matters and governs actions. It matters not what the Bible and/or the Bible knockoff really say. People go by what they are taught by their religious leaders. Take the genocide committed by the Roman Catholic Church at the direction of their supreme religious leader, the pope, what mattered was not that the Bible clearly said at Exodus 20:13, "Thou shalt not kill." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), but what their religious leaders told them. Therefore, it is the religion at fault, irregardless of what their particular holy book, be it the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an may say. Neither in so called Christianity or in Islam are most individuals actions really governed in any way by what their particular holy book really says, but they are governed by the interpretation of their religious leaders. Thus, knowing this reality, one would be either just plain stupid and/or dumb to even bother looking at a particular religion's holy book and expect the members would conform to it. Take the Rig Vede and find me for example a Hindu actually conforming to it instead of the interpretation given to it by his religious leaders, like looking for a needle in the haystack per K.S. Lal, India's greatest historian. The truth is most religious leaders either take things out of context and/or twist what their particular 'holy book' says to further their personal agendas or the agendas of the particular evil false religion they represent, what ever that may be. In reality, little thought or concern is ever given to what a particular 'holy book' actually says. Nowhere is this more true than with religious leaders who claim to be using the Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), the Bible, as their guide. This practice is particularly dishonoring of the Creator of all there is, Almighty God (YHWH), because it brings dishonor on his Inspired Word, the Bible, by many who see those proclaiming to follow the Bible are NOT really doing so. This hypocrisy gives many the wrong impression of the Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), the Bible, and unjustly brings reproach on it. This is very unfortunate and fits right in with the god of this system of things, Satan the Devil, with regard his continuing attempt to mislead all of mankind if possible. When a religion let’s its religious leaders get totally out of bounds and endanger world peace, it is time to dissolve it. Now of course this is NOT to be taken as saying and/or implying that all the religious leaders in a particular religion are bad people. However, if the good religious leaders in a religion can NOT control the bad actions of other religious leaders within the group or do NOT desire to do so, and the unchecked actions of the bad ones endanger world peace, it is time to dissolve the religion. Let’s look at an actual example where the good religious leaders of a religion are NOT reining in the bad, i.e., NOT cleaning out the bad ones either by excommunication and/or other means where dissolution may be the best solution, and where religious freedom can be maintained by giving members of this religion the opportunity to choose any of the other 33,000 plus religions. 1) A so called religion that has spilled blood from its beginning: Islam has spilled blood since its foundation in the Seventh Century. Let's look at its very beginnings, a raid on a camel caravan with spilling of blood. <<<" Raid on B. Qudah at Dhat al-Salasil by Amr b. al-As - September, 629CE Having suffered a terrible defeat in the hands of B. Qudah at Dhat Atlah, coupled with the ignoble retreat of the Muslim army from Mu'tah, Muhammad's prestige was greatly affected. It is said that he also received intelligence that a number of tribes, including B. Qudah were now preparing to attack Medina. To salvage his reputation he now empowered Amr b. al-As, the new convert of Islam, to push for a decisive raid on the stubborn B. Qudah tribe. Amr b. al-As was very furious that some of these tribes had taken the side of the Byzantine party during the Mu'tah battle. It was time to punish them-Muhammad determined. So with three hundred (300) men and thirty horses, Amr b. al-As set out to decimate the rebellious B. Qudah who were settled at Dhat al-Salasil. It was at a distance of ten days march from Medina. Amr b. al-As' grandmother (i.e., the mother of al-As b. Wail, the father of Amr b. al-As) was a woman from Qudah or Bali tribe and Muhammad sent Amr b. al-As to convert her and her people to Islam by force. When Amr arrived at Dhat al-Salasil he found that the enemy had heavily outnumbered the Muslims. Because of the feeble Islamic forces at his disposal Amr b. al-As sought reinforcement from Muhammad. The messenger of Allah quickly sent Abu Bakr b. Quhafa with an additional two hundred (200) men to assist Amr b. al-As. Thus, the total number of men now numbered five hundred (500)." [source - "Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims," The Root of Terrorism a la Islamic style Chapter 15, by Abul Kasem ] So as we can see, Islam started out with the spilling of innocent blood of those running the peaceful caravan of commerce, and it continued that way until the present. Yet members of this sham religion claim it is a religion of peace. This false claim makes one think of what Adolph Hitler said, <<<" 'The broad mass of a nation -..will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one'---Adolf Hitler (1889-1945)">>>. 2) Early blood spilling by Islam: Next, came the <<<"Raid on B. Juhayna at al-Khabat (the expedition of fish) by Abu Ubaydah ibn Jarrah - October, 629CE In the next month, Muhammad sent Abu Ubaydah b. Jarrah along with three hundred (300) men to attack and punish the tribe of Juhaynah at al-Khabat, on the seacoast, five nights journey from Medina. This was a very difficult expedition and the Muslims suffered from intense hunger-so much so, that they had to divide the dates by number. They even ate the leaves of trees for a month. However, there was no fighting as the enemy had fled when they heard of the arrival of the Muslims. In the end, the Muslims caught a dead-sea creature (a whale) that came ashore and ate it for half a month (or twenty days, according to Ibn Ishak). This is why this raid is also known as the 'expedition of fish.' They brought some of that stale meat to Muhammad and he ate it too.">>>. <<<"Sahih Bukhari records that the Muslims ate the mountain like fish for eighteen days. Here is the Hadith [Ranks next to the Quran]: Volume 3, Book 44, Number 663: Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: "Allah's Apostle sent an army towards the east coast and appointed Abu 'Ubaida bin Al-Jarrah as their chief, and the army consisted of three-hundred men including myself. We marched on till we reached a place where our food was about to finish. Abu- 'Ubaida ordered us to collect all the journey food and it was collected. My (our) journey food was dates. Abu 'Ubaida kept on giving us our daily ration in small amounts from it, till it was exhausted. The share of everyone of us used to be one date only." I said, "How could one date benefit you?" Jabir replied, "We came to know its value when even that too finished." Jabir added, "When we reached the sea-shore, we saw a huge fish which was like a small mountain. The army ate from it for eighteen days. Then Abu 'Ubaida ordered that two of its ribs be fixed and they were fixed in the ground. Then he ordered that a she-camel be ridden and it passed under the two ribs (forming an arch) without touching them.">>>. This practice of spilling blood of the innocents continued right on in early Islam. Here is a short list of some of these blood spilling afairs: [1] Beheading the leader of B. Jusham at al Ghabah by Abd Allah ibn Hadrad - November, 629CE [still being practiced today by members of Islam.] [2] Raid on a passing caravan at Batn al-Idam by Abd Allah b. Abi Hadrad - November, 629CE [An example of desert piracy and blood spilling.] [3] Raid on B. Khudra at Suria by Abu Qatadah - December, 629CE [An example of blood spilling of the innocent.] [4] The Occupation of Mecca by Muhammad - January, 630CE [Yet another example of blood spilling of the innocent.] Footnotes, <<<"Hadith from Sahhi Bukhari on Muhammad's exclusive right to shed blood at the holy sanctuary: Volume 3, Book 34, Number 303: Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Allah's Apostle said, "Allah made Mecca a sanctuary and it was neither permitted for anyone before, nor will it be permitted for anyone after me (to fight in it). And fighting in it was made legal for me for a few hours of a day only. None is allowed to uproot its thorny shrubs or to cut down its trees or to chase its game or to pick up its Luqata (fallen things) except by a person who would announce it publicly." 'Abbas bin 'Abdul-Muttlib requested the Prophet, "Except Al-Idhkhir, for our goldsmiths and for the roofs of our houses." The Prophet said, "Except Al-Idhkhir." 'Ikrima said, "Do you know what is meant by chasing its game? It is to drive it out of the shade and sit in its place." Khalid said, "('Abbas said: Al-Idhkhir) for our goldsmiths and our graves.">>>. <<<"On the killing of the singing girl, Sunaan Abu Dawud records: Sunaan Abu Dawud: Book 14, Number 2678: Narrated Sa'id ibn Yarbu' al-Makhzumi: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: on the day of the conquest of Mecca: There are four persons whom I shall not give protection in the sacred and non-sacred territory. He then named them. There were two singing girls of al-Maqis; one of them was killed and the other escaped and embraced Islam.">>>. <<<"Those killings of the Meccan women smacks in the face of Islam's claim that the religion forbids the killing of women in a war. In fact, we can cite Sahih (authentic) Ahadith to demonstrate that the killings of polytheist women and children and old men are definitely sanctioned by Muhammad. Here are a few samples: Sahih Muslim: Book 019, Number 4321: It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them. Sunaan Abu Dawud: Book 14, Number 2664: Narrated Samurah ibn Jundub: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Kill the old men who are polytheists, but spare their children." [source - [source - "Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims," The Root of Terrorism a la Islamic style Chapter 16, by Abul Kasem, email address on 05/24/2007 = nirribilli@gmail.com ] [5] The Destruction of al-Uzza at Nakhla by Khalid b. al-Walid - January, 630CE [Yet another example of blood spilling of the innocent.] [6] The Destruction of Suwa at Ruhat by Amr b. al-As - January, 630CE [Yet another example of blood spilling of the innocent.] [7] The Destruction of al-Manat at al-Kadid by Sa'd b. Zayd al-Ashhali - January, 630CE [Yet another example of blood spilling of the innocent, one being a poor black lady.] [8] Plunder of B. Jadhimah at Tihamah by Khalid b. al-Walid - January, 630CE [Yet another example of blood spilling of the innocent.] footnote, <<<"Here is Sahi Hadith from Sahih Bukhari on the level of atrocity and cruelty perpetrated on B. Jadhimah by the Muslims: Volume 5, Book 59, Number 628: Narrated Salim's father: The Prophet sent Khalid bin Al-Walid to the tribe of Jadhima and Khalid invited them to Islam but they could not express themselves by saying, "Aslamna (i.e. we have embraced Islam)," but they started saying "Saba'na! Saba'na (i.e. we have come out of one religion to another)." Khalid kept on killing (some of) them and taking (some of) them as captives and gave every one of us his Captive. When there came the day then Khalid ordered that each man (i.e. Muslim soldier) should kill his captive, I said, "By Allah, I will not kill my captive, and none of my companions will kill his captive." When we reached the Prophet, we mentioned to him the whole story. On that, the Prophet raised both his hands and said twice, "O Allah! I am free from what Khalid has done.">>>. [9] Second Raid on B. Hawazin or the Battle of Hunayn by Muhammad - January, 630CE 630CE [Yet another example of blood spilling of the innocent.] [10] The Destruction of the idol Yaghuth at Dhu al-Kaffyan by Tufayl ibn 'Amr al-Dawsi - January, 630 [Yet another example of blood spilling of the innocent.] [11] The Siege of Taif by Muhammad - January, 630CE [Yet another example of blood spilling of the innocent.] Footnote, <<<"Hadith from Sahih Bukhari on the release of the captives of B. Hawazin: Volume 3, Book 46, Number 716: Narrated Marwan and Al-Miswar bin Makhrama: When the delegates of the tribe of Hawazin came to the Prophet and they requested him to return their properties and captives. The Prophet stood up and said to them, "I have other people with me in this matter (as you see) and the most beloved statement to me is the true one; you may choose either the properties or the prisoners as I have delayed their distribution." The Prophet had waited for them for more than ten days since his arrival from Ta'if. So, when it became evident to them that the Prophet was not going to return them except one of the two, they said, "We choose our prisoners." The Prophet got up amongst the people and glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and said, "Then after, these brethren of yours have come to us with repentance, and I see it logical to return them the captives. So, whoever amongst you likes to do that as a favor, then he can do it, and whoever of you likes to stick to his share till we recompense him from the very first war booty which Allah will give us, then he can do so (i.e. give up the present captives)." The people unanimously said, "We do that (return the captives) willingly." The Prophet said, "We do not know which of you has agreed to it and which have not, so go back and let your leaders forward us your decision." So, all the people then went back and discussed the matter with their leaders who returned and informed the Prophet that all the people had willingly given their consent to return the captives. This is what has reached us about the captives of Hawazin. Narrated Anas that 'Abbas said to the Prophet, "I paid for my ransom and Aqil's ransom.">>>. [12] The Raid on B. Tamim by Uyana b. Hisn - July, 630CE [Yet another example of blood spilling of the innocent.] And the list of early blood lettings of the innocent by Islam could go on for many pages, but it is being stopped here as enough have been listed to establish the fact that early Islam was guilty of much blood letting per the name of this article, "Blood, Blood, and More Blood, the Story of Islam:" 3) Continued early blood spilling by Islam in the middle ages: A few salient examples will be given to illustrate how Islam, the sham religion, never stopped its evil and wicked blood spilling hate, greed, and lust for violence during the middle ages: [1] <<<" Malik Kafur, the general of Alauddin Khalji, gave the Raja of Dwarsamudra a choice between Islam, death or payment of a huge idemnity.25 But under Muhammad bin Tughlaq there is greater insistence on the vanquished Hindu princes to embrace Islam. The most glaring example of this is that during the Warangal campaign all the eleven sons of the Raja of Kampila were made Muslims. Muhammad bin Tughlaq converted many people in this fashion. When Firoz Tughlaq invaded Jajnagar (Orissa), he captured the son of the Rai of Sikhar, converted him to Islam, and gave him the name of Shakr Khan. The process of enslavement during war went on under the Khaljis and the Tughlaqs. Alauddin had 50,000 slaves37 some of whom were mere boys,38 and surely many captured during war. Firoz Tughlaq had issued an order that whichever places were sacked, in them the captives should be sorted out and the best ones (fit for service with the Sultan) should be forwarded to the court.39 Soon he was enabled to collect 180,000 slaves.40 Ziyauddin Barani's description of the Slave Market in Delhi (such markets were there in other places also) during the reign of Alauddin Khalji, shows that fresh batches of slaves were constantly replenishing them.41> [ Indian Muslims:Who Are They-K.S. Lal Chapter 3-Proselytization in Provincial-Muslim Kingdoms -http://www.voiceofdharma.org/books/imwat/ch3.htm]>>>. [2] <<<" Starting with Al-Bilãdhurî who wrote in Arabic in the second half of the ninth century, and coming down to Syed Mahmudul Hasan who wrote in English in the fourth decade of the twentieth, we have cited from eighty histories spanning a period of more than twelve hundred years. Our citations mention sixty-one kings, sixty-three military commanders and fourteen sufis who destroyed Hindu temples in one hundred and fifty-four localities, big and small, spread from Khurasan in the West to Tripura in the East, and from Transoxiana in the North to Tamil Nadu in the South, over a period of eleven hundred years. In most cases the destruction of temples was followed by erection of mosques, madrasas and khãnqãhs, etc., on the temple sites and, frequently, with temple materials. Allãh was thanked every time for enabling the iconoclast concerned to render service to the religion of Muhammad by means of this pious performance. Mahmûd of Ghazni robbed and burnt down 1,000 temples at Mathura, and 10,000 in and around Kanauj. One of his successors, Ibrãhîm, demolished 1,000 temples each in Hindustan (Ganga-Yamuna Doab) and Malwa. Muhammad Ghûrî destroyed another 1,000 at Varanasi. Qutbu'd-Dîn Aibak employed elephants for pulling down 1,000 temples in Delhi. "Alî I 'Ãdil Shãh of Bijapur destroyed 200 to 300 temples in Karnataka. A sufi, Qãyim Shãh, destroyed 12 temples at Tiruchirapalli. Such exact or approximate counts, however, are available only in a few cases. Most of the time we are informed that "many strong temples which would have remained unshaken even by the trumpets blown on the Day of Judgment, were levelled with the ground when swept by the wind of Islãm".> [HINDU TEMPLES :WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM -Volume II :The Islamic Evidence- SITA RAM GOEL -Section III FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH-8. Summing up- www.voiceofdharma.org/books/htemples2/ch8.htm]>>>. [3] << <Islamic imperialism knew no code of honor. The only rule of war they observed without fail was to fall down the helpless civil population after a decisive victory had been won on the battlefield. They sacked and burnt down villages and towns after the defenders had died fighting or had fled. The cows, the Brahmins and Buddhist Bhikshus invited their special attention in a mass murder of non-combatants. Their temples and shrines were their special targets in an orgy of pillage and destruction. Those that they did not kill, they captured and sold as slaves. The scene was described by Kanhadde Prabandha (1456 A.D) in the following words: "The conquering army burnt villages, devastated the land, plundered people's wealth, took Brahmins and children and women of all classes captive, flogged with thongs of raw hide, carried a moving prison with it, and converted the prisoners into obsequious Turks." [source: Story of Islamic Imperialism in India - By Sita Ram Goel ASIN 8185990239 p. 41-42-, www.hinduwisdom.info/Islamic_Onslaught.htm ]>>>. [4] <<<" These conquerors justified their deeds by claiming it was their religious duty to smite non-believers. Cloaking themselves in the banner of Islam, they claimed they were fighting for their faith when, in reality, they were indulging in straightforward slaughter and pillage. When these warriors settled in India, they ruled as absolute despots over a cowed Hindu populace. For generations, their descendants took their martial superiority over their subjects for granted. "... And a substantial number of Pakistani Muslims are secretly convinced that they are inherently superior to the Hindus. One irony, of course, is that contrary to their wishful thinking, the vast majority of Muslims in the subcontinent have more Hindu blood in their veins than there is Arab, Afghan, Turkish or Persian blood. Many of the invaders took Hindu wives and concubines." [source: Demons from the past - By Ifran Husain - dailytimes.com.pk- www.hinduwisdom.info/index_new.htm ]>>>. [5] <<<" "From the time Muslims started arriving, around 632 AD, the history of India becomes a long, monotonous series of murders, massacres, spoliation's, and destruction's. It is, as usual, in the name of 'a holy war' of their faith, of their sole God, that the barbarians have destroyed civilizations, wiped out entire races." Mahmoud Ghazni, continues Danielou, "was an early example of Muslim ruthlessness, burning in 1018 of the temples of Mathura, razing Kanauj to the ground and destroying the famous temple of Somnath, sacred to all Hindus. His successors were as ruthless as Ghazni: 103 temples in the holy city of Benaras were razed to the ground, its marvelous temples destroyed, its magnificent palaces wrecked." Indeed, the Muslim policy vis a vis India, concludes Danielou, seems to have been a conscious systematic destruction of everything that was beautiful, holy, refined." [source - Histoire de l' Inde - By Alain Danielou p. 222 or A Brief History of India-, www.hinduwisdom.info/Islamic_Onslaught.htm#Slaughter%20of%20the%20Hindu s]>>>. [6] <<<" It is significant that one of the very few place-names on earth that reminds us not of the victory of the winners but rather of the slaughter of the losers, concerns a genocide of Hindus by the Muslims. A few known historical figures can be used to justify this estimate. The Encyclopaedia Britannica recalls that in December 1398 AD, Taimurlane ordered the execution of at least 50,000 captives before the battle for Delhi; likewise, the number of captives butchered by Taimurlane's army was about 100,000. The Britannica again mentions that Mughal emperor Akbar ordered the massacre of about 30,000 captured Rajput Hindus on February 24, 1568 AD, after the battle for Chitod, a number confirmed by Abul Fazl, Akbar's court historian. Afghan historian Khondamir notes that during one of the many repeated invasions on the city of Herat in western Afghanistan, which used to be part of the Hindu Shahiya kingdoms '1,500,000 residents perished.' 'Thus, 'it is evident that the mountain range was named as Hindu Kush as a reminder to the future Hindu generations of the slaughter and slavery of Hindus during the Moslem conquests.' "[source: Where's India's holocaust museum? - By Francois Gautier - rediff.com-ttp://www.hinduwisdom.info/Islamic_Onslaught.htm#Slaughter%20of%20the%20Hindu s ]>>>. [7] The contemporary French writer François Gautier has said, <<<"The massacres perpetuated by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history, bigger than the Holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis; or the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks; more extensive even than the slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spanish and Portuguese."[http://www.hinduholocaust.com/HinduHolocaustMuseum.htm]>>>. [8] K. S. Lai, the greatest of all historians in India said, <<<"Islam received a definite check in India. In other words, while countries like Arabia, Persia, Mesopotamia and Syria succumbed to the onslaught of Islam and converted en masse, the sword of Islam was blunted in India. This check provided provocation and enthusiasm to some Muslim conquerors and rulers to take to the task of proselytization with great zeal and earnestness. Their exertions and achievements find repeated mention in official and non-official chronicles and similar other works. Sometimes, besides broad facts, actual data and figures in this regard are also available. All this information is very helpful in estimating Muslim numbers as they grew from almost a cipher. "[source - comparable account of terror-tactics of the Muslim army as described by Persian chroniclers and Vidyapati in Kirtilata in K.S.Lal]>>>. [9] Genocide and massacres and stealing of others lands and forced conversions continued as Islam's SOP <<<"Ikhtiyaruddin Bakhtiyar Khalji's military exploits in the east also resulted in conversions to Islam. About the end of the twelfth or the beginning of the thirteenth century," [source & comments - by S.K. Lal - The exact date of the raid is difficult to determine. Ishwari Prasad, Medieval India (Allahabad, Fourth Impression, 1940), p.138] places it" probably in 1197", [source - Wolseley Haig (C.H.I., III,pp.45-46] a little earlier than this, and [source - Habibullah, op. cit., pp.70 and 84, n. 78 in 1202-03.]>>; <<"he marched into Bihar and attacked the University centres of Nalanda, Vikramshila and Uddandapur, erecting a fortress at the site of Uddandapur or Odantapuri." [source - Indian Antiquary, IV, pp.366-67.]>>; <<"The Buddhist monks in these places were massacred and the common people, deprived of their priests and teachers, turned some to Brahmanism and some to Islam. Buddhism did not die out immediately or completely in Bihar." [source - Fuhrer, The Sharqi Architecture of Jaunpur, pp.70-73.]>>; <<"But Bakhtiyar's raid on Bihar did deliver a shattering blow to Buddhism and its lost followers were gained mainly by Islam. Muslim sway extended from Varanasi through the strip of Shahabad, Patna, Monghyr and Bhagalpur district," [source - Habibullah, op. cit., p.147]>>>. [10] Islam continued with its same standard operating procedure, (SOP), <<<" With this conceptual framework let us examine the structure and organization of Muslim community in Hindustan in the eleventh and twelfth centuries. Punjab saw the emergence of Muslims as a local community consequent to the invasions of Mahmud of Ghazni. But for a few immigrants in the shape of Ghaznavid officers and soldiers, the bulk of Muslims were converts from the indigenous Hindu population. Similar was the case in "pockets" of Sind, Gujarat, Bihar and Malabar. The process of their conversion was hurried. All of a sudden the invader appeared in a city or a region, and in the midst of loot and murder, a dazed, shocked and enslaved people were given the choice between Islam and death. Those who were converted were deprived of their scalp-lock or choti and, if they happened to be caste people, also their sacred thread." [source - Indian Muslims, Who Are They by K.S. Lal and his footnote comments were, "The exact date of the raid is difficult to determine. Ishwari Prasad, Medieval India [source - Allahabad, Fourth Impression, 1940), p.138] places it" probably in 1197", [source - Wolseley Haig (C.H.I., III,pp.45-46)] a little earlier than this, and [source - Habibullah, op. cit., pp.70 and 84, n. 78 in 1202-03."]>>>. [11] Now here are the facts, the reality, of the murder, genocide of over 80 million endividuals in India by Muslims, <<<"With the invasion of India by Mahmud Ghazni about 1000 A.D., began the Muslim invasions into the Indian subcontinent and they lasted for several centuries. The Muslim invasions continued even when the Muslims were ruling India, like the invasion of the Mongols during the reign of the Khiljis or the invasion of the Mughals in the early sixteenth Century when the Lodis were ruling Delhi. The last notable invasion of the Muslims from outside was the invasion of Nadir Shah in 1739, during which he unleashed a great horror on the native population. See Part 3
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Post by iris89 on Apr 2, 2011 15:17:03 GMT -5
Part 3 During these seven hundred years of Muslim invasions and their conquest and rule of India, the Hindus were the greatest sufferers. It is difficult to estimate the number of Hindus who lost their lives during these campaigns, the number of Hindus who lost their lives in the religious persecution perpetrated on the native population by the Muslim rulers or the number of Hindus who were forcibly converted to Islam. According to Prof. K.S. Lal, the author of the Growth of Muslim population in India, the Hindu population decreased by 80 million between 1000 AD, the year Mahmud Ghazni invaded India and 1525 AD, a year before the battle of Panipat. One can safely add another 20 million Hindus to this list to account for the number that were killed during the Mughal rule or the rule of the Muslim rulers in the Deccan plateau. By all known accounts of world history, as pointed out by Koenard Elst in his book the Negationism in India, destruction of about 100 million hindus is perhaps the biggest holocaust in the whole world history." [source - The biggest holocaust in world history by Jayaram V]>>>. This clearly showing that the Muslims were responsible for the greatest genocide in all of human history, but let's look at more facts with respect this crime against humanity. Let's look at a quote from Chapter 5 of a history book by India's greatest historian, K.S. Lal, see information about him in the footnote at end of quote, <<<"Factors Contributing to the Growth of Muslim Population, Conversions - Islam has spread in many parts of the world through wars and campaigns[[Its spread was not peaceful but by the proverbial sword]]. In the medieval Indian chronicles the sovereign is always mentioned as 'the king of Islam', the territories of his empire are referred to as the 'land of Islam', its armies as 'soldiers of Islam', and its religious and Judicial head as 'Shaikh-ul-Islam'. The monarch was committed to make Islam the true basis of private and public life through the enforcement of the Shariat and to convert the people to the "true faith". In India the Muslim rulers' keenness to obtain converts in war is vouched by many chroniclers. The Tarikh-i-Muhammadi gives a clear idea of the psychology of the rulers in this regard. Its author was a contemporary of Sultan Nasiruddin Mahmud, the son of Firoz Tughlaq. He says that while fighting Rai Subir (Sumer) in the vicinity of Iraj, the Sultan thought: 'If I will give orders to the army to fight (outright), they will not leave even a trace of the Kafirs [[none Muslims]] in the region, but if I shall advance slowly, then probably these people will agree to embrace Islam."3 What professor Mohammad Habib writes concerning the Mongol applies equally to Turkish expeditions. "In 1330 the country was invaded by the Mongols who indulged in arson, rape and murder throughout the Valley (of Kashmir). The king and the Brahmans fled away but among the inhabitants who remained... Muslim ways of life were gradually adopted by the people as the only alternative..."4 Thus warfare brought captives, and captives were made Musalmans. Such was not the situation only in the North; in South also such methods of conversion prevailed, especially during wars between Bahmani and Vijayanagar kingdoms. Throughout the medieval period such wars were common, and forcible conversions [[Conversions by the proverbial sword.]] helped in the rapid growth of Muslim population. The rulers used force and persuasion in equal measure. Their resources were great. They could give jobs, honours, and titles and many other economic concessions and status benefits as inducements to conversion, and many people would have taken advantage of these facilities. We have referred to Mubarak Khalji's encouragement to Hindus to accept Islam by presenting the convert with a robe and a gold ornament. People used to be converted in this fashion right up to the reign of Aurangzeb and perhaps even thereafter. There were other methods too. The Banshasmriti of Satya Krishna Biswas states that in Bengal the Rajas and Zamindars who could not deposit land revenue by a certain date had to convert to Muhammadanism. The Banshasmriti narrates an isolated incident, but as this regulation of the thirteenth century had been revived by Murshid Quli Khan, or had continued right up to his times, many local Rajas and Zamindars would have been converted in the course of four centuries, for full payment of land tax by due date was not always possible. Firoz Tughlaq (1351-88) instructed his revenue collectors to convert Hindus to Islam.5 He rescinded the Jiziyah to lure people to become Muhammadans, and this measure brought large additions to Muslim population. In his Fatuhat-i-Firoz Shahi, Sultan Firoz Tughlaq candidly writes: "I encouraged my infidel subjects to embrace the religion of the prophet and I proclaimed that everyone who repeated the Kalima of tauhid and became Musalman should be exempt from Jiziyah... Information of this came to the ears of the people at large, and great number of Hindus presented themselves, and were admitted to the honour of Islam. Thus they came forward day by day from every quarter, go on coming to this day, and adopting the faith, are exonerated from the Jiziyah, and are favoured with Khilats and presents."6 [[Taxed enslaved subjects that would NOT convert to try and force their conversion; i.e., no affording of the basic human right of freedom of conscience]]. [source - Studies in Medieval Indian History, pp.171-172 by K.S. Lal]>>>. Now let's look at what others had to say about this greatest of all genocides: Historian Will Durant wrote his book The Story of Civilization:, <<<"The Mohammadan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precarious thing, whose delicate complex of order and liberty, culture and peace may at any time be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within." [source - "The Story of Civilization, " by Will Durant the great American historian]>>>. French historian Alain Danielou wrote in his book Histoire de l'Inde:, <<<"From the moment when the Muslims arrive in India, the history of India does not have any more great interest. It is long and monotonous series of murder, massacres, spoilations, destruction." [source - "Histoire de l'Inde," by Alain Danielou, great French historian]>>>. Hindu sage Padmanabha described in his KanhaDade Prabandha in 1456 AD the story of the Islamic invasion of Gujarat of 1298 AD:, <<<"The conquering army burnt villages, devastated the land, plundered people's wealth, took Brahmins ( priestly hindu class ) and children and women of all classes captive, flogged with thongs of raw hide, carried a moving prison with it, and converted the prisoners into obsequious slaves.">>>. Tarikh-i-Yamini of Utbi the sultan's secretary wrote in the 11th century: <<<"The blood of the infidels flowed so copiously at Thanesar that the stream was discoloured, notwithstanding its purity, and people were unable to drink it. The Sultan returned with plunder which is impossible to count." [source - "the story of the Islamic invasion of Gujarat of 1298 AD:, " [source - English translation), by Padmanabha, a famous Hindu of the 15 th. Century]. [12] Also, hateful, greedy, and lustful for violence members of Islam set out in the Eighth Century to steal all of Spain and to kill all that resisted, <<<" In 711 AD, the non-White Muslim invasion finally reached Spain, having swept up out of the Saudi Arabian peninsula, conquered Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and North Africa to the Gibraltar Strait. Launching a ferocious assault across the narrow strait, the Muslims defeated the Gothic kingdom in stages and managed to establish what became known as Moorish rule over the greatest part of Spain and Portugal, with only the very northern parts remaining in Gothic hands." [source - MARCH OF THE TITANS - A HISTORY OF THE WHITE RACE, Chapter 22: Lessons in Decline: Spain and Portugal] 4) Islam continues with their violent ways as shown in Thailand today: Let's look at how Islam is using its usual SOP in three provinces of Thailand today, 2006. An article in the New York Times clearly shows that Islam has remained violent until today, <<"In Thailand, a New Model for Militants? ... October 1, 2006 HAT YAI, Thailand - The bomb that exploded outside New Cherry Ancient Massage was among the most sinister kinds - a lethal sucker punch timed to detonate moments after two other blasts had lured onlookers into the streets of this tourist town. The homemade device, hidden in a motorcycle parked outside the busy parlor, killed five people, including a Canadian teacher and three masseuses. All 30 surviving massage workers quit on the spot. Within days, the parents of the three dead women came to take their daughters' bodies home. "One father asked, 'Why my child? She was a good girl,' " said New Cherry owner Boonchai Sangmankung. "And I couldn't answer him. I don't know myself. Why do the attacks continue? Why are more innocent people killed every day?" Since 2004, militants in Thailand's predominantly Muslim south have waged a bloody separatist insurgency against the cultural elite of this largely Buddhist nation, targeting teachers, monks, community leaders and government officials. So far, 1,700 people have been killed, yet the campaign of almost-daily bombings, arson attacks, kidnappings and assassinations has gone largely unnoticed in a Western world fixated on higher-profile Islamic terrorism campaigns in Iraq and elsewhere. "The violence in southern Thailand is quite significant compared to many other world conflicts today," said Panitan Wattanayagorn, a political scientist at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok. "The U.S. lost 3,000 soldiers in three years in Iraq. This death toll is not far behind." ... Many Muslim residents still chafe over what they consider a century of abusive rule. But experts differ over the roots of the insurgency. Some say it's a battle over religious freedom, others say it's a fight for territory and self-rule. Still others say it's both... In the first six months of 2006, two people died every day, on average: A Buddhist teacher was gunned down in front of his fourth-grade class by men dressed as students. A salesman was beheaded outside a crowded teashop. The owner of an elephant troupe was shot seven times by assailants who had lined up with children to buy tickets for a show. In August, 22 small bombs exploded nearly simultaneously in banks throughout southern Yala province, killing one person and bringing commerce to a standstill. Two months earlier, 50 bombs went off in a single day at government offices and police stations. Last year, 15 militants stormed a Buddhist temple and hacked two monks to death before setting fire to their bodies. Thai officials believe that 30,000 Buddhists have fled the south since the attack. Insurgents also have targeted fellow Muslims suspected of conspiring with a military known for its brutality in dealing with the Islamic militants...[source - By John M. Glionna, Times Staff Writer on 10/01/2006]>>. First, before detail, let's look at Swami Vivekananda said which is as true today as when he said it in 1893. <<"Sectarianism, bigotry, and its horrible descendant, fanaticism, have long possessed this beautiful earth. They have filled the earth with violence, drenched it often and often with human blood, destroyed civilization, and sent whole nations to despair. Had it not been for these horrible demons, human society would be far more advanced than it is now." [source - Swami Vivekananda (1893)]>>. Swami Vivekananda clearly saw the damage being done by false religion and stated it in a few well used words. 5) Present day blood spilling by Islam: At present members of Islam are still in their SOP - spilling blood of innocent people all over the world, and especially so in Iraq, Pakistan, Thailand, the United States, India, etc. We shall look at a few salient cases of this modern day blood spilling by Islam: [1] Let's look at how Islam is using its usual SOP in three provinces of Thailand today, 2006. An article in the New York Times clearly shows that Islam has remained violent until today, <<<"In Thailand, a New Model for Militants? ... October 1, 2006 HAT YAI, Thailand - The bomb that exploded outside New Cherry Ancient Massage was among the most sinister kinds - a lethal sucker punch timed to detonate moments after two other blasts had lured onlookers into the streets of this tourist town. The homemade device, hidden in a motorcycle parked outside the busy parlor, killed five people, including a Canadian teacher and three masseuses. All 30 surviving massage workers quit on the spot. Within days, the parents of the three dead women came to take their daughters' bodies home. "One father asked, 'Why my child? She was a good girl,' " said New Cherry owner Boonchai Sangmankung. "And I couldn't answer him. I don't know myself. Why do the attacks continue? Why are more innocent people killed every day?" Since 2004, militants in Thailand's predominantly Muslim south have waged a bloody separatist insurgency against the cultural elite of this largely Buddhist nation, targeting teachers, monks, community leaders and government officials. So far, 1,700 people have been killed, yet the campaign of almost-daily bombings, arson attacks, kidnappings and assassinations has gone largely unnoticed in a Western world fixated on higher-profile Islamic terrorism campaigns in Iraq and elsewhere. "The violence in southern Thailand is quite significant compared to many other world conflicts today," said Panitan Wattanayagorn, a political scientist at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok. "The U.S. lost 3,000 soldiers in three years in Iraq. This death toll is not far behind." ... Many Muslim residents still chafe over what they consider a century of abusive rule. But experts differ over the roots of the insurgency. Some say it's a battle over religious freedom, others say it's a fight for territory and self-rule. Still others say it's both... In the first six months of 2006, two people died every day, on average: A Buddhist teacher was gunned down in front of his fourth-grade class by men dressed as students. A salesman was beheaded outside a crowded teashop. The owner of an elephant troupe was shot seven times by assailants who had lined up with children to buy tickets for a show. In August, 22 small bombs exploded nearly simultaneously in banks throughout southern Yala province, killing one person and bringing commerce to a standstill. Two months earlier, 50 bombs went off in a single day at government offices and police stations. Last year, 15 militants stormed a Buddhist temple and hacked two monks to death before setting fire to their bodies. Thai officials believe that 30,000 Buddhists have fled the south since the attack. Insurgents also have targeted fellow Muslims suspected of conspiring with a military known for its brutality in dealing with the Islamic militants...[source - By John M. Glionna, Times Staff Writer on 10/01/2006]>>>. [2] In the United States and elsewhere, an Australian newspaper did a summary of the violence and were quite conservative in their findings as the percentage should probably be higher than they gave in their summary. <<<" The Newspaper article is but a summary of evidence from around the world some of which was presented immediately below it, all from reliable world news sources. I presented a newspaper with a summary of it as it would take a many volume book to present it all. Apparently you fail to read the news daily with regard to how many murders are being committed daily in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Thailand, Indonesia, Egypt, etc. by members of Islam. Also, you show you fail to listen to Al Jazzera and BBC to hear the proof of what the newspaper summarized - do you dig it? The world would be a much more tranquil and peaceful place without Islam, and even more so without apostate (counterfeit) so called Christianity. Let's look once more at what I posted in the past: The Weekend Australian (newspaper) had this to say on the matter, <<"Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-muslims or each other? Islam is intolerant of other religions, so much so that Christians in Nigeria, Sudan and middle eastern countries are killed for practicing their religion. Muslims are also responsible for burning down their churches. Sydney has recently seen an attack on four churches for similar reasons. (December 16, 2005) How can we tolerate such intolerance?">>.[7] Says it all, so clearly Islam should be redefined as something other than a religion. So it is very necessary that this greed and hate be addressed. Remember, Matthew 5:9, "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God." (AV). Let's consider the facts as continually revealed in the world news that shows if any thing that the newspaper editor may have been a little low when he said 95 percent of the violence in the world was caused by Muslims. Here are some instances of terrorism by members of Islam:[7] (1) World Trade Center - 9/11 - unprovoked attack and mass murder by Muslims.[8] (2) London Subway Bombing by Muslims [9] (3) Continued mosque bombings in Iraq by Muslims.[10](4) Suicide bombings in Israel by Muslims.[11] (5) Suicide bombing of a wedding reception in Jordan by Muslims.[12] (6) Daily roadside bombings in Iraq by Muslims.[13] (7) Train bombings in Spain my Muslims.[14] (8) Riots and car burnings and murders in France by Muslims.[15] (9) Suicide bombings in Iraq by Muslims.[16] (10) Car and truck bombings in Iraq by Muslims.[17] (11) Unprovoked murder of 8 Israelis and the kidnapping of 2 by Muslims to provoke turmoil and violence in Lebanon and Israel by Muslims.[18] (12) Unprovoked murder of 2 Israelis and the kidnapping of 1 by Muslims to provoke turmoil and violence in Gaza by Muslims.[19] (13) Bombing of restaurants and cafes in Bali, Indonesia by Muslims.[20] (14) Bombing of a trains in India by Muslims.[21] (15) Take over o***rammar school in Russia resulting in the deaths of many students by Muslims.[22] (16) Attempted shoebombing of a plain by a Muslim.[23] (17) Conspiracy to bomb about 10 planes going from UK by Muslims.[24] (18) Attempted murder of several Indian politicians in Kashmir by Muslims.[25] (19) Many violent acts by Muslims in Afghanistan.[26] (20) Murder o***irl by Shiite Muslims in Iran.[27] (21) Conspiracy to bomb trains in Germany - as previously posted for you.[28] (22) And the list could go on and on, get it? References: [7] The Weekend Australian, November 26-27, 2005 AD [8] World Trade Center bombing, by Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [9] Explosions Hit Three Tube Stations, One Bus, Thursday, July 21, 2005, Fox News [10] By Ellen Knickmeyer and K.I. Ibrahim, Washington Post Foreign Service Thursday, February 23, 2006; Page A01 [11] Suicide attack, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [12] Zarqawi Calls for Jordan King's Head, Friday, November 18, 2005 [13] The Daily Star, 03/21/2006, Vol. 5 #644 [14] CBS News, WASHINGTON, March 12, 2004 [15] Free Republic, News/Activism 05/30/2006 5:46:30 PM PDT, and, The Telegraph, By Colin Randall in Paris (Filed: 31/05/2006) [16] Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [17] CNN, Thursday, March 18, 2004 Posted: 4:59 PM EST (2159 GMT) [18] Telegraph (UK), Israeli crisis is a smoke screen for Iran's nuclear ambitions, By Con Coughlin(Filed: 14/07/2006) [19] Associated Press [20] aljazeera.net, Bali a soft target, experts say, By Marianne Kearney in Jakarta, Indonesia, Monday 03 October 2005, 20:20 Makka Time, 17:20 GMT [21] MSNBC, Associated Press, Updated: 6:26 p.m. ET July 12, 2006 [22] Beslan school hostage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [23] CNN, CNN NEWSNIGHT AARON BROWN, Debate Over Guantanamo Detainees Continues, Aired January 21, 2002 - 22:00 ET [24] TIME, The Daily Dish, by Andrew Sullivan, The Alleged UK Terror Plot, 16 Aug 2006 09:58 am [25] The New Yorker, BETWEEN THE MOUNTAINS - India and Pakistan are caught in a dangerous struggle over Kashmir. But what do its people want? by Isabel Hilton , Issue of 2002-03-11 [26] USA Today, USA's Muslims under a cloud, Updated 8/10/2006 9:13 AM ET [27] NITV Satellite TV station located in Los Angeles, on Masjed Soleymaani Hastam, and [FREE IRAN Project] In The Spirit Of Cyrus The Great, and (in German) Iran/forum/viewtopic.php of Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia' and sosiran97.home.comcast.net/MasjedSoleymaaniHastam.mp3, and [28] AOL NEWS, War on Terror, and Netscape.com, Third Lebanese Arrested in German Train Terror Plot , (via dailystar.com.lb) [source - Large Religions are False Religions - Their Fruitage, which can be read in its entirety and which covers also the wrongs of apostate (counterfeit) Christians at, religioustruths.proboards59.com/ind...read=1163175928 ] >>>. It is obvious that you do not know the difference between a summary of proof and the individual proofs that support it, some of salient examples of proof which, as previously mentioned appeared immediately below it in my post. [3] Violence by members of Islam never let's up as a very recent world news item shows, <<<" by Ramzi Haidar 1 hour, 40 minutes ago [05/21/2007] NAHR AL-BARED, Lebanon (AFP) - The Lebanese government offered late Monday a truce in its confrontation with Islamists in north Lebanon that cost 58 lives, as a bomb exploded in Beirut for the second straight night. "The Lebanese army is ready to stop firing if the other side does the same. It will not open fire if it is not attacked," a government source in Beirut said, on condition of anonymity. The offer followed indirect negotiations between the army and the splinter group Fatah al-Islam through the mediation of Jamaa Islamiya, a Sunni organisation, participants in the contacts told AFP. The fighting had eased off by late Monday, but three soldiers were killed in an attack on an army post outside the Nahr al-Bared camp, raising the overall toll to 58 dead. Hospital and security sources gave a breakdown of the deaths: 30 soldiers, 17 Islamist fighters, 10 Palestinian civilians and a Lebanese civilian. Lebanese troops bombarded the Islamist militiamen, accused of links to Al-Qaeda and Syrian intelligence, with tanks and heavy artillery earlier on Monday, the second day of the bloodiest internal fighting since the 1975-1990 civil war. "The army is not only opening fire on us. It is shelling blindly. If this continues, we will carry the battle outside the (nearby port) city of Tripoli," spokesman Abu Salim Taha told AFP. After the threat to expand the confrontation from around their camp in north Lebanon, 10 people were wounded in the second unclaimed bomb blast to target Beirut in as many nights, hospital sources said. Police said the bomb in the upmarket residential district of Verdun in mainly Muslim west Beirut was placed under a car, setting ablaze several vehicles and damaging buildings. A 63-year-old woman was killed and 10 people were wounded in an explosion in a Christian district of the Lebanese capital on Sunday night. Verdun is home to Information Minister Ghazi al-Aridi, who at the time was giving a press briefing at the premier's office on an emergency cabinet meeting to discuss the deadly clashes around Nahr al-Bared...>>>. 6) A never ending lust for violence that only dissolution can stop: On the 26 of November 2008 a major shedding of blood by members of Islam occurred in Mumbai, India. Let’s look at just this latest shedding of blood by some members of Islam to appease their bad religious leaders such as Sheik Osama bin Ladin and others of his ilk. <<<”The Moscow Times » Issue 4041 » Frontpage Top 104 Killed In Terror Attack on Mumbai 28 November 2008MUMBAI, India -- Black-clad Indian commandoes raided two luxury hotels to try to free hostages Thursday evening, and explosions and gunshots shook India's financial capital a day after suspected Muslim militants killed 104 people. Rescue efforts continued throughout the day amid sporadic gunfire, with some hostages escaping and others rescued by police. Several bodies were carried out of the five-star Taj Mahal Palace and Tower Hotel, one of 10 sites seized by gunmen on Wednesday night. More than 300 were also injured in the highly coordinated attacks by bands of gunmen armed with assault rifles, hand grenades and explosives. Flames burst from the hotel's top floors and dome shortly after the attacks began Wednesday night and erupted again after commandoes raided the building Thursday. After dusk Thursday, the soldiers ushered several dozen captives out of the Oberoi Hotel, another Mumbai landmark. The Russian Consulate in Mumbai had received no reports of Russians being killed or injured in the attacks, Consul General Alexei Redkin said, Interfax reported Thursday evening. … "A counterterrorism operation is still under way, so we have asked the flight attendants to remain in their rooms, and we are in contact with them," Redkin said. "The women are not and have not at any point been hostage to the terrorists, and for their own safety, at the request of the Indian authorities, they are not trying to leave the hotel." The consulate had evacuated nine Russian specialists from state arms export agency Rosoboronexport who had been staying at the hotels that were attacked, Redkin said, Interfax reported. Eight Aeroflot employees staying at another hotel in the area had also been moved, he said. One of the freed hostages, who did not give his name, told reporters that he had seen many bodies inside the hotel. He refused to give more details, saying he had promised police not to discuss the rescue while it was ongoing. The Maharashtra State Home Ministry said 45 captives had been freed from the Oberoi and 35 were still trapped inside. Police said they were going slowly to protect the captives. "The safety of the people trapped is very important," said A. N. Roy, a senior police officer. "It will take time, but it will be completed successfully," he said. Among the dead were at least one Australian, a Japanese and a British national, said Pradeep Indulkar, a senior government official of Maharashtra state, whose capital is Mumbai. An Italian and a German were also killed, according to their foreign ministries. Police said 104 people were killed and 314 injured. Officials said eight militants were also killed. The most high-profile target was the Taj, a favorite watering hole of the city's elite. Soldiers outside the hotel said the operation would take a long time, as forces were moving slowly from room to room looking for gunmen and traps. In the afternoon, bodies and hostages slowly emerged from the building. At least three bodies, covered in white cloth, were wheeled out. The attackers, dressed in black shirts and jeans, had stormed into the hotel at about 9:45 p.m. Wednesday and opened fire indiscriminately. The shooting was followed by a series of explosions that set fire to parts of the century-old edifice on Mumbai's waterfront. Screams were heard, and black smoke and flames billowed, continuing to burn until dawn. The gunmen also seized the Mumbai headquarters of the ultra-orthodox Jewish outreach group Chabad Lubavitch. About 10:30 a.m., a woman, a child and an Indian cook were seen being led out of the building by police, a witness said. Among those foreigners still held captive in all three buildings were Americans, British, Canadians, Israelis, Italians, New Zealanders, a Singaporian, Spaniards, Swedes, Turks and Yemenis. At least three top Indian police officers -- including the chief of the anti-terror squad -- were among those killed, said Roy. Russia, the United States and Pakistan were among the countries that condemned the attacks. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, in Venezuela on Thursday for talks with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, said the suffering is being widely felt. He expressed dismay at the attacks during a visit to Venezuela Wednesday night, saying, "What these terrorist acts do is harm all of humanity." In Washington, U.S. President George W. Bush offered Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh "support and assistance" as he works to restore order in the growing Southwest Asian nation, according to White House Press Secretary Dana Perino. The motive for the onslaught was not immediately clear, but Mumbai has frequently been targeted in terrorist attacks blamed on Islamic extremists, including a series of bombings in July 2006 that killed 187 people. An Indian media report said a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility for the attacks in e-mails to several media outlets. There was no way to verify that claim.” AP, MT [source – 104 Killed In Terror Attack on Mumbai by The Moscow Times, Issue 4041, retrieved at www.themoscowtimes.com/article/600/42/372706.htm on 11/27/2008]>>> See Part 4
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See Part 4 Part 4 And the highly reliable UK Economist said, <<<” THE sheer scale and audacity of the assault were staggering. Gangs of well-armed youths attacked two luxury hotels, a restaurant, a railway station and at least one hospital. Gunfire and explosions rang through Mumbai overnight on November 26th-27th and through the next morning. As The Economist went to press, more than 100 people were reported to have been killed, and the toll seemed likely to rise. Several foreigners, including some from America, Japan and Britain, were among the dead. So were over a dozen policemen, including Mumbai’s chief counter-terrorism officer. Up to 100 hostages, including selected American and British guests, were alleged to be held hostage inside a hotel. Even in a city—and country—with a grim record of terrorist violence, these were extraordinary scenes. The attacks started at around 10.30pm on November 27th, when gunmen started shooting and throwing grenades at Mumbai’s main Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus railway station. Television footage showed two men shooting at random as they drove through nearby streets in a stolen police jeep. Around the same time, a bomb was reported to have exploded in a taxi parked near the city’s main airport. More or less simultaneously, gunmen speaking Hindi and Urdu, the language of many north-Indian Muslims and of neighbouring Pakistan, stormed two hotels—the Taj Mahal and the Trident Oberoi—and Café Leopold, a restaurant popular with tourists. Police outside the Taj Mahal, India’s most famous hotel, lapped by the Arabian Sea, said gunmen arrived there by inflatable dinghy. In the early hours, a gunfight erupted on Marine Drive, the scenic coastal road seen in so many Bollywood films, in which another Mumbai police chief was killed. As dawn broke, flames were rising from the domed roof of the Taj Mahal. Navy and army commandos, who had retaken the hotel’s lower floors and killed two terrorists, reported bodies in many rooms and perhaps half a dozen terrorists still living. A trickle of terrified employees and guests, some with gunshot wounds, continued to flee the building. One fugitive, Amit, a hotel-restaurant manager, said his chef had been hit by three bullets and many colleagues remained inside. A few badly injured survivors were wheeled from the hotel on brass luggage-trolleys. By midday on November 28th most of the hostages were reported to have been released from the hotel, although there were reports of further shooting. … Around the same time, a bomb was reported to have exploded in a taxi parked near the city’s main airport. More or less simultaneously, gunmen speaking Hindi and Urdu, the language of many north-Indian Muslims and of neighbouring Pakistan, stormed two hotels—the Taj Mahal and the Trident Oberoi—and Café Leopold, a restaurant popular with tourists. Police outside the Taj Mahal, India’s most famous hotel, lapped by the Arabian Sea, said gunmen arrived there by inflatable dinghy. In the early hours, a gunfight erupted on Marine Drive, the scenic coastal road seen in so many Bollywood films, in which another Mumbai police chief was killed. As dawn broke, flames were rising from the domed roof of the Taj Mahal. Navy and army commandos, who had retaken the hotel’s lower floors and killed two terrorists, reported bodies in many rooms and perhaps half a dozen terrorists still living. A trickle of terrified employees and guests, some with gunshot wounds, continued to flee the building. One fugitive, Amit, a hotel-restaurant manager, said his chef had been hit by three bullets and many colleagues remained inside. A few badly injured survivors were wheeled from the hotel on brass luggage-trolleys. By midday on November 28th most of the hostages were reported to have been released from the hotel, although there were reports of further shooting. ... There seemed little doubt that the attackers were Muslim militants of some description, but their exact provenance was unclear. Responsibility was claimed by a previously little-known group called the Deccan Mujahideen. Speaking to Indian television by telephone, a gunman holding hostages in the Trident Oberoi demanded that Muslim prisoners, including those captured in Kashmir, should be released from Indian jails. “Release all the mujahideens, and Muslims living in India should not be troubled,” he said. In the past five months India has suffered from a spate of Islamist militancy, with bomb-blasts in half a dozen cities, including Delhi, Bangalore and Jaipur. A home-grown Muslim terrorist group, the Indian Mujahideen, has been blamed for the spree, in which over 150 people were killed. In a chilling, 14-page admission of responsibility for the Delhi bombings in September, the Indian Mujahideen castigated the counter-terrorism efforts of Mumbai’s police, and promised Mumbaikars future “deadly attacks”. ... Al-Qaeda has often threatened to launch strikes in India. In 2006 Arab terrorists belonging to the organisation were foiled in an attempt to set off bombs in Goa, India’s main destination for foreign tourists. Among the targets of the latest attacks was a Jewish religious centre in southern Mumbai which was reported to have been fired on by the gunmen. Police said that an Israeli rabbi and his family were among a group being held as hostages in a nearby apartment block. Despite these worrying signs, Indian officials have so far resisted suggestions that Indian Muslims are being radicalised and joining a global jihad. Many refer approvingly to the observation of George Bush that Muslims from India have not in general turned up to fight the infidels on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan. But security analysts have meanwhile despaired at the unpreparedness of India’s security agencies to counter a domestic Islamist threat. Whether or not al-Qaeda was behind the latest attack, that happy complacency must now have ended. [source - India under attack, Nov 27th 2008 | MUMBAI, From The Economist print edition, retrieved from www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12708194 on 11/27/2008]>>>. And, highly reliable FOX News said, <<<” FOXNEWS.COM HOME > WORLD, retrieved from www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,458270,00.html on 11/27/2008 URGENT: Indian Official Declares Seige Ended at Mumbai Hotel; Hostages Released at Three Sites; Indian Officials Probe Possible Pakistan Connection Thursday, November 27, 2008 Nov. 27: Rescue and security personnel carry a body from the Taj Hotel in Mumbai, India. UPDATED @ 2:50 p.m. EST — A high-ranking Indian state official says the siege has ended at Mumbai's Taj Mahal hotel. An official with the Maharashtra state home department, speaking on customary condition of anonymity, said there were no further details. Sources tell FOX News that two of the last three gunmen were killed, but that there is one wounded militant still inside the hotel. There are reports that the National Security Guard are trying to convince the remaining gunmen to surrendering. The Times of India, meanwhile, is reporting that 70 hostages have been rescued at the nearby Trident Hotel, but that a fire continued to burn there and in the adjacent Oberoi hotel. A state official also said eight hostages have been freed from the Mumbai headquarters of the ultra-orthodox Jewish outreach group Lubavitch Chabad, which is based in New York City. Israeli Ambassador Sallai Meridor told FOX News that he was briefed by officials in Mumbai, and cannot confirm that all eight hostages at the center have been released. RelatedStories Official: 8 Hostages Released From Jewish Center in Mumbai Wave of Terror Attacks Strikes India's Mumbai, Killing at Least 82 Raw Data: Recent Attacks on Americans or American Interests in India Video 'Commercial Ally' 'Chaotic Period' Mumbai Terror Attack 40 Held Hostage in Mumbai Photo Essays India Terror Attacks There also were conflicting reports about whether there were any gunmen still inside the center. … Local media reports one of the captured gunmen was identified as Abu Ismail, from Faridkot, Pakistan. Police reportedly intercepted communications between the terrorists, and that one of the gunmen instructed the others to say they were from Hyderabad, a major city in central India. The communication reportedly was in Punjab, which is not spoken in Hyderabad, but is spoken in Pakistan. The Daily Mail reported the suspect may have been trained by Lashkar-e-Toiba, a militant group that operates training camps inside Pakistan-administered Kashmir. … — Indian Coast Guard officials say they boarded the MV Alpha, a Vietnamese-registered ship that is suspected to have transported the terrorists who carried out the attacks. The ship was boarded about 70 miles off the east coast of India. Officials say the decapitated body of the ship's captain was found onboard, and that the vessel probably carried the gunmen from a port in Gujarat, a peninsula in northwest India bordering Pakistan. While state officials said the hostages held at the Jewish center were released, the nearby Israeli Embassy continued to express concern for its citizens. There were unconfirmed reports that some of the hostages at the Oberoi hotel were Israeli nationals. — Reuters reports a militant at the Lubavitch Chabad Center phoned an Indian TV station with an offer to talk with government officials about the release of hostages. … Chabad spokesman Moni Ender in Israel said there were eight Israelis inside the house, including Rabbi Gavriel Noach Holtzberg and his wife. The motive for the onslaught was not immediately clear, but Mumbai has frequently been targeted in terrorist attacks blamed on Islamic extremists, including a series of bombings in July 2006 that killed 187 people. An Indian media report said a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility for the attacks in e-mails to several media outlets. There was no way to verify that claim. A previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen claimed responsibility for the attacks in e-mails to several media outlets. While there was no way to verify that claim, security experts in India and U.S. speculated the group either is an Al Qaeda faction, or has the backing the Muslim terrorist group. Magnus Ranstorp, a terrorism specialist with the Swedish National Defense College said the fact that Britons and Americans were singled out is one indicator of an Al Qaeda connection, along with the coordinated style of the attacks. … At least three top Indian police officers — including the chief of the anti-terror squad — were among those killed, said and A.N. Roy, a top police official. The attackers specifically targeted Britons, Americans and Israelis at the hotels and restaurant, witnesses said. Alex Chamberlain, a British citizen who was dining at the Oberoi, told Sky News television that a gunman ushered 30 to 40 people from the restaurant into a stairway and, speaking in Hindi or Urdu, ordered everyone to put up their hands. Click to view photos from the attack sites "They were talking about British and Americans specifically. There was an Italian guy, who, you know, they said: 'Where are you from?" and he said he's from Italy and they said 'fine' and they left him alone. And I thought: 'Fine, they're going to shoot me if they ask me anything — and thank God they didn't," he said. Chamberlain said he managed to slip away as the patrons were forced to walk up stairs, but he thought much of the group was being held hostage. The White House, meanwhile, said President Bush expressed condolences to Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for the attacks. … Perino said that Bush offered Singh "support and assistance" as he works to restore order in the populous and growing Southwest Asian nation. The president also wished Singh success as Indian officials investigate "these despicable acts" in Mumbai. The motive for the onslaught was not immediately clear, but Mumbai has frequently been targeted in terrorist attacks blamed on Islamic extremists, including a series of bombings in July 2006 that killed 187 people. … A spokesman for the Lubavitch movement in New York, Rabbi Zalman Shmotkin, said attackers "stormed the Chabad house" in Mumbai. "It seems that the terrorists commandeered a police vehicle which allowed them easy access to the area of the Chabad house and threw a grenade at a gas pump nearby," he said. State Home Minister R.R. Patil vowed to catch the terrorists, "dead or alive." Patil told reporters. "An attack on Mumbai is an attack on the rest of the country." Indian authorities ordered schools and colleges and the Bombay Stock Exchange closed Thursday. Blood smeared the grounds of the 19th century Chhatrapati Shivaji railroad station — a beautiful example of Victorian Gothic architecture — where attackers sprayed bullets into the crowded terminal. Photos in the Mumbai Mirror newspaper showed a young gunman — dressed like a college student in cargo pants and a black T-shirt — walking casually through the station, an assault rifle hanging from one hand and two knapsacks slung over a shoulder. Nasim Inam, a witness said four of the attackers gunned down scores of commuters. "They just fired randomly at people and then ran away. In seconds, people fell to the ground." Other gunmen attacked Leopold's restaurant, a landmark popular with foreigners, and the police headquarters in southern Mumbai, the area where most of the attacks took place. The restaurant was riddled with bullet holes and there was blood on the floor and shoes left by fleeing customers. Gunmen also attacked Cama and Albless Hospital and G.T. Hospital, though it was not immediately clear if anyone was killed. Relations between Hindus, who make up more than 80 percent of India's 1 billion population, and Muslims, who make up about 14 percent, have sporadically erupted into bouts of sectarian violence since British-ruled India was split into independent India and Pakistan in 1947. The Associated Press, Times of London, Times of India, NDTV and FOXNews.com Correspondent Judd Berger contributed to this report. FOX FORUM: MUMBAI TERROR ATTACKS: A ‘Planned’ Operation Designed to Create Chaos” [source - FOXNEWS.COM HOME > WORLD, retrieved from www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,458270,00.html on 11/27/2008]>>>. So there you have the facts on the latest outrage and lust for violence by members of Islam operating under the obvious directions of their evil religious leaders that the good ones are failing to rein in. SOME MEMBERS OF ISLAM ARE TRYING TO COVER UP FOR THE WRONG DOING IN MUMBAI: As usual Muslim conspiracy weavers are busy trying to put the blame on others for the evil and wicked acts that occurred in Mumbai just as they did with the evil and wicked acts of Muslims on 9/11/2001. It gets sickening having to deal with this false and lying conspiracy weaving falsehoods by members of Islam who should be reining in the evil and wicked religious leaders among them. This failure to do so when it is their responsibility to do so is a definite indication that this religion needs to be dissolved. Now let’s consider what a Google search brought up on 11/27/2008 with respect early conspiracy weaving attempts by members of Islam to cover-up the wrong doing of members that are committing wicked and evil acts instead of reining them in as they should: <<<” Mossad behind the mass terror attack in Mumbai, India? | Wake Up ... Nov 27, 2008 ... Why Mossad chose to attack Mumbai is not a mystery. .... Every terror attack spreads further hatred for Muslims and Islam and weakens the ... www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/9310 - 19 hours ago - Similar pages” [source - www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/9310 on 11/27/2008 - note, site would not open]>>>. Of course people in India and from India are NOT buying this conspiracy weaving ‘crappola,’ but are highly infuriated by the events caused by members of Islam. Let’s look at what one posted on a site on the Internet: <<<” Please, let's stop calling Islam a religion... it its a totalitarian, political ideology draped in religious garb, whose goal is world domination. There are the minions (peaceful, ignorant, moderate?), the religious 'leaders' (pious, moderate, radical, leaders or underlings or others), stealth jihadists/jihadis, violent jihadis, and governments (who may promote, accommodate or fear jihadis). This is a world-wide cancer. To excise the cancer, some nearby flesh may be damaged or destroyed. Either that or we build a big wall with the jihadis on one side and everyone else on the other. We can still trade on a heavily regulated basis, but little else. A whole lotta history and economic unrest relates to Islam. Western leaders are willfully blind or frozen with fear. Speak to them, let them know you want the problem solved before D.C. or New York looks like Mumbai! Is this India's 9-11? The World's 9-11? If one thinks Islam to be first a political movement and only second a religion, then could mosques be shut down as centers of organization for the enemy or a segment of the enemy? Militaries, state departments, homeland security, immigration officials, tourism markets all need a new mindset. This CANNOT continue to happen. We cannot continue to avoid seeing what is going on, a concerted effort to bring down sovereign states and economies around the world. But how do we respond? Does the world have the vocabulary, hardware and human resources to respond? What kind of Crucible are we now in? Posted by: Civilus Defendus at www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023662.php on November 26, 2008 6:56 PM Attempt by members of Islam to blame others for their evil acts.” [source - Civilus Defendus at www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023662.php on November 26, 2008 6:56 PM]>>>. And another said on the Internet: <<<”Of course i been saying this for years.... we had a chance in 1947 to get rid of all the Robed B*ast***s Dogs to BONGladedsh and Porkisatn.. But the Congress headed by that F*cker Neru.... didi'nt because her Daughter (Indra) was married a Saracen Dog... We would have been a nation of Sanskirt Religions Only... Yet Congress still feels attached to the Dogs... Opening up buses to Kashmir.. they only number 13.4% of the population of India... so we still have a chance, as there numbers will increase it will become difficult tell them all to leave India..to PAK or BANG..if they don't then kill them all in Kashmir and India BJP ZindaBad !! BJP ZindaBad!! the truch voice for Hindus and Sikhs!!!” [source - by JaTT of Lincoln, UK, as posted on "Should Muslims be kicked out of India? Posted in the Sikh Forum", retrieved from www.topix.com/forum/religion/sikh/T6G6LHIT1E1L53GG9 on 11/27/2008]>>>. Of course this poster is a little too radical, but what he does say, makes a good case why this so called religion needs to be dissolved. CONCLUSION: [1] Islam has never changed its SOP and is continuing to spill innocent blood just as it did in its beginning back in 628 CE. Yet this religion that has the distinction of spilling more blood, blood, blood, than any other entity has the nerve to claim it is a peaceful religion. They must define peaceful quite different than anyone else including the dictionary. [2] Whereas, the founder of Christianity, the Son of the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, and Jacob, creator of all there is, Jesus (Yeshua), was the "Prince of Peace" and never committed violence against anyone, but preached per Matthew 22:37-40, "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. " (Authorized King James Bible; AV). Quite a contrast between the blood letting SOP of Islam, as preached by Muhammad (pbuh), compared to genuine (true) Christianity preached by Jesus (Yeshua) Christ. Really shows which group is truly peaceful. Footnote, Much blood shed was committed by apostate (counterfeit) so called Christians who to some degree emulated Islam, but of this group, Jesus (Yeshua) said at Matthew 7:23, "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. " (Authorized King James Bible; AV). Swami Vivekananda said which is as true today as when he said it in 1893. <<<"Sectarianism, bigotry, and its horrible descendant, fanaticism, have long possessed this beautiful earth. They have filled the earth with violence, drenched it often and often with human blood, destroyed civilization, and sent whole nations to despair. Had it not been for these horrible demons, human society would be far more advanced than it is now." [source - Swami Vivekananda (1893)]>>>. Swami Vivekananda clearly saw the damage being done by false religion and stated it in a few well used words. This is clear when you examine the saying by one well known Muslim of the present day, <<<"'God knows, if we did possess (a chemical bomb), we wouldn't hesitate one second to use it'---Abu Musab al-Zarqawi">>>. But as Isaac Asimov noted, <<<"'Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent'---Isaac Asimov (1920-1992)">>>, which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Islam is a sham religion of violence and incompetence. [3] Of course so called Christianity has its dysfunctions also. The so called Christian religion consist of over 33,000+ sects and/or groups all believing and propagating different things which is the promoting of many false religions under the broad umbrella of the taxonomy of being Christian. However, it should be obvious to any thinking individual that 33,000+ different ways can NOT all be correct, so what we in effect have is a very large maze that one must transverse to get to the real truth since all but one would only be dead ends. Of course, in order to do this, one can NOT examine each in detail, but must therefore seek to learn what the Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), Creator of all that exist, the Bible, really teaches. But this is no easy task. But let's consider the two taxonomies or distinct classifications of what is commonly referred to as Christianity. Realizing that some view gaining salvation as and easy task and feel that belonging to any old religion is acceptable to Almighty God (YHWH), but is it? Let's look at some facts, realities in keeping with John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (Authorized King James Bible; AV). Now let's look at the two different taxonomies and carefully note what sets them apart from each other: Group 1 - the genuine (true) followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ do NOT involve themselves with war and violence or meddle in politics, and try to follow to the 'letter' the words and commandments of Christ. Also, they have NO creedal doctrines and/or traditions. Group 2 - the false claimants of being followers of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ involve themselves with war and violence and meddle in politics while falsely claiming to be followers of Christ, the Prince of Peace. The give 'lip' service with respect following to the 'letter' the words and commandments of Christ - the term Sunday Christian aptly fits them. They have their creedal doctrines and/or traditions and assign more importance to these than the Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), the Bible. All need to learn what the Bible really says and a good book to assist in this endeavor is, “What Does the Bible Really Teach,” by Watch Tower Bible and tract Society of Pennsylvania. As can readily be seen, Group 1 does not involve itself with nationalism and racism but readily recognizes the Biblical reality of no partiality as shown at Romans 2:11 and elsewhere, "for there is no respect of persons with God." (American Standard Version: ASV). Also, this group strives to follow the 'letter' of the commandments of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ and Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), Creator of all that exist, the Bible; and NOT the creeds and creedal doctrines of men who give themselves high sounding titles. Whereas, Group 2 only gives 'lip service' to commandments of Jesus (Yeshua) Christ and Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), Creator of all that exist, the Bible. The self evident truth being: That it matters not what their holy book says be they Group 2 so called Christians and/or some none so called Christian group such as Islam, Hinduism, etc. It is not what either the Bible or the Bible takeoff the Qur'an actually say, but how religious leaders be they priest and/or imams or muftis or what ever teach the people is the interpretation of what is written either in the Bible or the bible takeoff the Qur'an that matters and governs actions. It matters not what the Bible and/or the Bible takeoff really say. People go by what they are taught by their religious leaders. Take the genocide committed by the Roman Catholic Church at the direction of their supreme religious leader, the pope, what mattered was not that the Bible clearly said at Exodus 20:13, "Thou shalt not kill." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), but what their religious leaders told them. Therefore, it is the religion at fault, irregardless of what their particular holy book, be it the Bible or the Bible takeoff the Qur'an may say. Neither in so called Christianity or in Islam are most individuals actions really governed in any way by what their particular holy book really says, but they are governed by the interpretation of their religious leaders. Thus, knowing this reality, one would be either just plain stupid and/or dumb to even bother looking at a particular religion's holy book and expect the members would conform to it. Take the Rig Vede and find me for example a Hindu actually conforming to it instead of the interpretation given to it by his religious leaders, like looking for a needle in the haystack per K.S. Lal, India's greatest historian. So, clearly, it is NOT my taxonomy but reality that sets the two groups clearly apart as separate classifications. Also, it is not my opinion that sets the two separate groups that are called "Christians" apart, but clearly the diametrically opposed actions of the two groups. In fact, the Inspired Word of Almighty God (YHWH), the Bible, clearly demonstrates how difficult it really is not to be mislead by the Devil and the religious leaders of evil false religions under control of the god of this system of things. This was clearly shown by Almighty God's (YHWH's) Son, Jesus (Yeshua), in answering a question asked of him at Luke 13:23-30, "And one said unto him, Lord, are they few that are saved? And he said unto them, 24 Strive to enter in by the narrow door: for many, I say unto you, shall seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, open to us; and he shall answer and say to you, I know you not whence ye are; 26 then shall ye begin to say, We did eat and drink in thy presence, and thou didst teach in our streets; 27 and he shall say, I tell you, I know not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and yourselves cast forth without. 29 And they shall come from the east and west, and from the north and south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. 30 And behold, there are last who shall be first, and there are first who shall be last." (ASV). See Part 5
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Post by iris89 on Apr 2, 2011 15:21:21 GMT -5
Part 5 Also, Jesus (Yeshua) clearly showed his genuine (true) followers would be few in number compared to the total number of mankind. Let's consider both Luke 13:24 and Matthew 7:13-14, it is in both of these that the road followed by true believers would be narrow and cramped, Luke 13:24, "Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." (Authorized King James Bible: AV); And Matthew 7:13-14, "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, abroad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." (AV); thereby, clearly showing few would be entering the narrow gate "which leadeth unto life." In reality, it will be difficult for even true Christians to enter as testified to at 1 Peter 4:18, "And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear." (AV). In order to enter, we must have the right sort of guide, Luke 1:79, "To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace." (AV). Now, if one picks the wrong group, just because it is popular or the so called 'one to belong to in a community' and not because of Bible Truths, there is an important warning given at Matthew 15:14, "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." (AV). In fact, being with the wrong group can mean you are NOT having fellowship with the Son of God, Jesus (Yeshua) as testified to at 1 John 1:6, "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not [have] the truth." (AV). This danger is made abundantly clear at Luke 12:32 when Jesus (Yeshua) spoke of his true followers as a little flock and not a large one, "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom." (AV). Simply stated, his true followers will be relatively few in number which should cause all sincere individuals to question whether mainstream religion with its vast membership is heading for the narrow gate! Now being this is the case, it behooves all genuine (true) followers of Jesus (Yeshua) to show neighbor love and warn their neighbors of the need to seek genuine salvation and to get OUT OF EVIL FALSE RELIGION regardless of what it is called or how long their families and friends have been members of it. This would be required by what Jesus (Yeshua) said at Matthew 22:37-40, "And he said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second like unto it is this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 40 On these two commandments the whole law hangeth, and the prophets." (ASV). We will consider how this love of neighbor requires all genuine (true) followers to warn their neighbors of evil false religion by exposing it for what it is. To learn more, check out the following: [1] religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum [2] www.network54.com/Forum/403209 A Forum Devoted to Exposing The False Religion of Islam [3] jude3.proboards92.com/ A Free-Speech Forum For All [4] www.freewebs.com/iris_the_preacher My web site. Your Friend in Christ Iris89
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Post by iris89 on Apr 2, 2011 20:30:23 GMT -5
Sequel #6 To Islam Does Not Believe In Freedom of Religion or The Rights Of The True Owners of Land To Reoccupy Their Own Property: INTRODUCTION: Now of course it is important to recognize that not all Muslims are terrorist and jihadists nor refuse to recognize the property rights of others, it is likewise equally important to recognize that all jihadists are members of Islam. Islam is totally responsible for their actions as they tacitly approve of their evil wrong doing and have never cleaned house of these wicked ones. To wit, by not doing so, they have taken on the responsibility for their wrongful actions. Yes, of course they are not the only religion that has failed to clean house; thus taking on the guilt of these wrong doers. Any religion, no exception, which fails to clean house is nothing but an evil false religion. As Congressman Peter King of New York put it, “there is no equivalency of threat between al-Qaeda and neo-Nazis, environmental extremists or other isolated madmen. Only al-Qaeda and its Islamist affiliates in this country are part of an international threat to our nation. Indeed, by the Justice Department's own record, not one terror-related case in the last two years involved neo-Nazis, environmental extremists, militias or anti-war groups.” [source - retrieved from www.meforum.org/2851/weeping-and-other-hysterics-have-muslim on 3/14/2011] Let’s face it, there is a method behind their outrageous acts; It is a desire for world domination by an Islamic entity. Let’s look at their plans to set up an evil empire out to remove freedom and to control others through a short history from the Seventh Century to the present: RECENT HIGHLIGHTS: As highlighted recently by 9/11 and the attack in Mumbai the evil empire of Islam is out to satisfy its lust for violence, greed, and hate. As one poster on the Internet, Civilus Defendus (his pseudonym) said, <<<"Please, let's stop calling Islam a religion... it its a totalitarian, political ideology draped in religious garb, whose goal is world domination. There are the minions (peaceful, ignorant, moderate?), the religious 'leaders' (pious, moderate, radical, leaders or underlings or others), stealth jihadists/jihadis, violent jihadis, and governments (who may promote, accommodate or fear jihadis). This is a world-wide cancer. To excise the cancer, some nearby flesh may be damaged or destroyed. Either that or we build a big wall with the jihadis on one side and everyone else on the other. We can still trade on a heavily regulated basis, but little else. A whole lotta history and economic unrest relates to Islam. Western leaders are willfully blind or frozen with fear. Speak to them, let them know you want the problem solved before D.C. or New York looks like Mumbai! Is this India's 9-11? The World's 9-11? If one thinks Islam to be first a political movement and only second a religion, then could mosques be shut down as centers of organization for the enemy or a segment of the enemy? Militaries, state departments, homeland security, immigration officials, tourism markets all need a new mindset. This CANNOT continue to happen. We cannot continue to avoid seeing what is going on, a concerted effort to bring down sovereign states and economies around the world. But how do we respond? Does the world have the vocabulary, hardware and human resources to respond? What kind of Crucible are we now in? Posted by: Civilus Defendus at www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023662.php on November 26, 2008 6:56 PM Attempt by members of Islam to blame others for their evil acts." [source - Civilus Defendus at www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023662.php on November 26, 2008 6:56 PM]>>>. This writer highlights the danger and now let's look at it using Spain as an example, so as to grasp their evil goal – world domination. SPAIN'S PAST HISTORY A WINDOW TO THE EVILS OF ISLAM: Age of Sadistic Murder and Plunder Called 'Golden Age' by Islam: Members of Islam like to say that Muslims created a Golden Age in Spain where peace reigned and Jews had freedom, but their propagandist apologist forget to mention that this so called 'Golden Age' was based on murder and stealing of what belonged to others. This fact, reality per John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (Authorized King James Bible; AV) was even duly recorded by one of their own, Ibn Abd-el-Hakem, in his historical account of the Islamic conquest of Spain. He wrote, <<<" When the Moslems settled in the island, they found no other inhabitants there, than vinedressers. They made them prisoners. After that they took one of the vinedressers, slaughtered him, cut him in pieces, and boiled him, while the rest of his companions looked on.">>>. So as can be seen from this, the so called "Golden Age" was really an age of land stealing and sadistic murder by members of Islam that they have never payed reparation for until today. Now let's look at the historic account of their land stealing and sadistic murders as told by one of their own: The Islamic Conquest of Spain Medieval Sourcebook: Ibn Abd-el-Hakem: <<<"The Islamic Conquest of Spain The Muslim expansion continued throughout the sixth and into the seventh century. In 711 the Berber Tarik invaded and rapidly conquered Visigothic Spain. Famously by 733 the Muslims reached Poitiers in France. There a battle, more significant to westerners than Muslims, halted the Muslim advance. In truth by that stage Islam was at its limits of military expansion. Tarik gave his name to "Jabal (mount of) Tarik" or, as we say, Gibraltar. In 712 Tarik's lord, Musa ibn-Mosseyr, joined the attack. Within seven years the conquest of the peninsula was complete. It became one of the centers of Moslem civilization, and the Umayyad caliphate of Cordova reached a peak of glory in the tenth century. Spain, called "al-Andulus" by Muslims remained was at least partially under Muslim control until 1492 when Granada was conquered by [King] Ferdinand and [Queen] Isabella. Musa Ibn Nosseyr sent his son Merwan to Tangiers, to wage a holy war upon her coast. Having, then, exerted himself together with his friends, he returned, leaving to Tarik Ibn Amru the command of his army which amounted to 1,700. Others say that 12,000 Berbers besides 16 Arabs were with Tarik: but that is false. It is also said that Musa Ibn Nosseyr marched out of Ifrikiya [Africa] upon an expedition into Tangiers, and that he was the first governor who entered Tangiers, where parts of the Berber tribes Botr and Beranes resided. These bad not vet submitted themselves. When he approached Tangiers, be scattered his light troops. On the arrival of his cavalry in the nearest province of Sus, he subdued its inhabitants, and made them prisoners, they yielding him obedience. And he gave them a governor whose conduct was agreeable to them. He sent Ibn Beshr Ibn Abi Artah to a citadel, three days' journey from the town of Cairwan. Having taken the former, he made prisoners of the children, and plundered the treasury. The citadel was called Beshr, by which name it is known to this day. Afterwards Musa deposed the viceroy whom be bad placed over Tangiers, and appointed Tarik Ibn Zeiyad governor. He, then, returned to Cairwan, Tarik with his female slave of the name Umm-Hakim setting out for Tangiers. Tarik remained some time in this district, waging a holy war.. The governor of the straits between this district and Andalus was a foreigner called Ilyan, Lord of Septa. He was also the governor of a town called Alchadra, situated on the same side of the straits of Andalus as Tangiers. Ilyan was a subject of Roderic, the Lord of Andalus [i.e. king of Spain], who used to reside in Toledo. Tarik put himself in communication with Ilyan, and treated him kindly, until they made peace with each other. Ilyan had sent one of his daughters to Roderic, the Lord of Andalus, for her improvement and education; but she became pregnant by him. Ilyan having heard of this, said, I see for him no other punishment or recompense, than that I should bring the Arabs against him. He sent to Tarik, saying, I will bring thee to Andalus; Tarik being at that time in Tlemsen, and Musa Ibn Nossevr in Cairwan. But Tarik said I cannot trust thee until thou send me a hostage. So be sent his two daughters, having no other children. Tarik allowed them to remain in Tlemsen, guarding them closely. After that Tarik went to Ilyan who - was in Septa on the straits. The latter rejoicing at his coming, said, I will bring thee to Andalus. But there was a mountain called the mountain of Tarik between the two landing places, that is, between Septa and Andalus. When the evening came, Ilyan brought him the vessels, in which he made him embark for that landing-place, where he concealed himself during the day, and in the evening sent back the vessels to bring over the rest of his companions. So they embarked for the landing-place, none of them being left behind: whereas the people of Andalus did not observe them, thinking that the vessels crossing and recrossing were similar to the trading vessels which for their benefit plied backwards and forwards. Tarik was in the last division which went across. He proceeded to his companions, Ilyan together with the merchants that were with him being left behind in Alchadra, in order that be might the better encourage his companions and countrymen. The news of Tarik and of those who were with him, as well as of the place where they were, reached the people of Andalus. Tarik, going along with his companions, marched over a bridge of mountains to a town called Cartagena. He went in the direction of Cordova. Having passed by an island in the sea, he left behind his female slave of the name of Umm-Hakim, and with her a division of his troops. That island was then called Umm-Hakim. When the Moslems settled in the island, they found no other inhabitants there, than vinedressers. They made them prisoners. After that they took one of the vinedressers, slaughtered him, cut him in pieces, and boiled him, while the rest of his companions looked on. They had also boiled meat in other cauldrons. When the meat was cooked, they threw away the flesh of that man which they had boiled; no one knowing that it was thrown away: and they ate the meat which theh had boiled, while the rest of the vinedressers were spectators. These did not doubt but that the Moslems ate the flesh of their companion; the rest being afterwards sent away informed the people of Andalus that the Moslems feed on human flesh, acquainting them with what had been done to the vinedresser. As Abd-Errahman has related to us on the authority of his father Abd-Allah lbn Abd-El-Hakem, and of Hisham Ibn Ishaak: There was a house in Andalus, the door of which was secured with padlocks, and on which every new king of the country placed a padlock of his own, until the accession to power of the king against whom the Moslems marched. They therefore begged him to place a padlock on it, as the kings before him were wont to do. But he refused saying, I will place nothing on it, until I shall have known what is inside; he then ordered it to be opened; but behold inside were portraits of the Arabs, and a letter in which it was written: "When this door shall be opened, these people will invade this country." When Tarik landed, soldiers from Cordova came to meet him; and seeing the small number of his companions they despised him on that account. They then fought. The battle with Tarik was severe. They were routed, and he did not cease from the slaughter of them till they reached the town of Cordova. When Roderic heard of this, he came to their rescue from Toledo. They then fought in a place of the name of Shedunia, in a valley which is called this day the valley of Umm-Hakim [on July 11, 711, at the mouth of the Barbate river]. They fought a severe battle; but God, mighty and great, killed Roderic and his companions. Mugheyth Errumi, a slave of Welid, was then the commander of Tarik's cavalry. Mugheyth Errumi went in the direction of Cordova, Tarik passing over to Toledo. He, then, entered it, and asked for the table, having nothing else to occupy himself. This, as the men of the Bible relate, was the table of Suleyman Ibn Dawid, may the blessing of God be upon him. As Abd Errahman has related to us on the authority of Yahva Ibn Bukeir, and the latter on the authority of Leyth Ibn Sad: Andalus having been conquered for Musa Ibn Nosseyr, he took from it the table of Suleyman Ibn Dawid, and the crown. Tarik was told that the table - was in a citadel called Faras, two days' journey from Toledo, and the governor of this citadel was a nephew of Roderic. Tarik, then, wrote to him, promising safetv both for himself and family. The nephew descended from the citadel, and Tarik fulfilled his promise with reference to his safety. Tarik said to him, deliver the table, and he delivered it to him. On this table were gold and silver, the like of which one bad not seen. Tarik, then, took off one of its legs together with the pearls and the gold it contained, and fixed to it a similar leg. The table was valued at two hundred thousand dinars, on account of the pearls that were on it. He took up the pearls, the armour, the gold, the silver, and the vases which he had with him, and found that quantity of spoils, the like of which one had not seen. He collected all that. Afterwards he returned to Cordova, and having stopped there, he wrote to Musa Ibn Nossevr informing him of the conquest of Andalus, and of the spoils which he had found. Musa then wrote to Welid Abd Ed-Malik' informing him of that, and throwing himself upon his mercy. Musa wrote to Tarik ordering him not to leave Cordova until he should come to him. And he reprimanded him very severely. Afterwards Musa Ibn Nosseyr set out for Andalus, in Rajab of the year 93, taking with him the chiefs of the Arabs, the commanders, and the leaders of the Berbers to Andalus. He set out being angry with Tarik, and took with him Habib Ibn Abi Ubeida Elfihri, and left the government of Cairwan to his son Abd Allah who was his eldest son. He then passed through Alchadra, and afterwards went over to Cordova. Tarik then met him, and tried to satisfv him, saving: "I am merely thy slave, this conquest is thine." Musa collected of the monev a sum, which exceeded all description. Tarik delivered to him all that he had plundered. note: The selection above is from the History of the Conquest of Spain by the Egyptian Ibn Abd-el-Hakem (d. 870 or 871 ), who also wrote a history of Egypt. He mixes myths and fact in his account, which was written a century and a half after the events it describes. [source - Ibn Abd-el-Hakem, History of the Conqziest of Spain, trans. by John Harris Jones (Gottingen, W. Fr. Kaestner, 1858), pp. 18-22]>>>. As can be seen, many Muslims as always are hateful, greedy, and lust for violence and this is clearly shown by their sadistic murders of owners of land they are stealing, their lustful plunder, their attacking of others that have done them no wrong, etc. They never voluntarily give up what the have stolen, but call their horrible wrongs "Golden Ages." But they forget to mention the so called 'Golden Age' is one of sadistic murder, plunder and stealing what rightfully belongs to others. SPAIN DID NOT LEARN ITS LESSON: Spain should have learned from their first centuries long brush with Islam, but apparently did not as shown by their permitting on July 10, 2003 in the Spanish town of Granada the opening of the Great Mosque of Granada. To add insult to injury, it was even built on a site once occupied by a church. The spokesman for the Mosque, Abdel Haqq Salaberria even revealed their evil intent to BBC News when he said the Mosque was "a symbol of a return to Islam among the Spanish people." He, Salaberria went on to express his hope that the mosque would "act as a focal point for the Islamic revival in Europe." But as usual Europe slept on just as they did when Adolph Hitler was getting more powerful and Europe almost came under the totalitarian rule of the Third Reich. It is hard to understand why Europe never learns, but they did not. <<<"For more than 700 years - from the early eighth century AD to nearly the end of the fifteenth - Muslim rulers had governed Spain, and Islam had been a thriving force on the Iberian Peninsula. In 732 AD, a Muslim army under Emir Abd al-Rahman almost reached Paris before being stopped near Tours, France. Islam's spread across Europe reached its zenith in the eighth century. Then, over hundreds of years, non-Muslim forces gradually chipped away at Islamic rule. Finally, in 1492, the armies of King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella conquered Spain's last Muslim stronghold, Granada. For the first time in centuries, no part of Spain was under Muslim rule.... Five hundred years later, with new Spanish converts joining Muslim immigrants to celebrate the opening of Granada's new Great Mosque, many Europeans wondered, "Could it all happen again?" In the years ahead, Europe's history of violent conflict with Islam will have a growing influence on current events. We need to be aware of history - and of where the Bible tells us the conflict will inexorably lead." [source - Tomorrow's World, May-June 2006, p. 12 TWM]>>>. But Europe has not learned from the past. In fact in London, UK, there have even been demonstrations where Muslims carried placards that read, "freedom, no way, Islam, yes," but the politicians of that country are 'sleeping' just as they did with regard the danger posed by Adolph Hitler until he launched an attack against the UK. However, one Dutch politician is not ignorant of the danger and is now doing his part to alert Europeans. DUTCH POLITICIAN'S EXPOSURE OF THE EVIL EMPIRE: Geert Wilders, chairman of Party for Freedom, in the Netherlands is one of the few that recognize the danger and does NOT have his head 'buried in the sand." He delivered an important speech which was sponsored by the Hudson Institute on September 25, 2008 at the Four Seasons, New York, introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem. that all should seriously contemplate. It is as follows: <<<"Dear Friends, Thank you very much for inviting me. Great to be at the Four Seasons. I come from a country that has one season only: a rainy season that starts January 1st and ends December 31st. When we have three sunny days in a row, the government declares a national emergency. So Four Seasons, that's new to me. It's great to be in New York. When I see the skyscrapers and office buildings, I think of what Ayn Rand said: 'The sky over New York and the will of man made visible.' Of course. Without the Dutch you would have been nowhere, still figuring out how to buy this island from the Indians. But we are glad we did it for you. And, frankly, you did a far better job than we possibly could have done. I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The danger I see looming is the scenario of America as the last man standing. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe. In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: who lost Europe? Patriots from around Europe risk their lives every day to prevent precisely this scenario form becoming a reality. My short lecture consists of 4 parts. First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam. Thirdly, if you are still here, I will talk a little bit about the movie you just saw. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem. The Europe you know is changing. You have probably seen the landmarks. The Eiffel Tower and Trafalgar Square and Rome's ancient buildings and maybe the canals of Amsterdam. They are still there. And they still look very much the same as they did a hundred years ago. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world, a world very few visitors see - and one that does not appear in your tourist guidebook. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration. All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corner. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighbourhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighbourhood by neighbourhood, city by city. There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule. Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities. In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims. Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'sleeper, sleeper'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin. In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the locusts can in many cases no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity. In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan. Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization. A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century. Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favour of a worldwide caliphate. A Dutch study reported that half of Dutch Muslims admit they 'understand' the 9/11 attacks. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. Our elites are willing to give in. To give up. In my own country we have gone from calls by one cabinet member to turn Muslim holidays into official state holidays, to statements by another cabinet member, that Islam is part of Dutch culture, to an affirmation by the Christian-Democratic attorney general that he is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey. Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. Some prefer to see these as isolated incidents, but I call it a Muslim intifada. I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies, they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers. Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Politicians shy away from taking a stand against this creeping sharia. They believe in the equality of all cultures. Moreover, on a mundane level, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored. Our many problems with Islam cannot be explained by poverty, repression or the European colonial past, as the Left claims. Nor does it have anything to do with Palestinians or American troops in Iraq. The problem is Islam itself. Allow me to give you a brief Islam 101. The first thing you need to know about Islam is the importance of the book of the Quran. The Quran is Allah's personal word, revealed by an angel to Mohammed, the prophet. This is where the trouble starts. Every word in the Quran is Allah's word and therefore not open to discussion or interpretation. It is valid for every Muslim and for all times. Therefore, there is no such a thing as moderate Islam. Sure, there are a lot of moderate Muslims. But a moderate Islam is non-existent. The Quran calls for hatred, violence, submission, murder, and terrorism. The Quran calls for Muslims to kill non-Muslims, to terrorize non-Muslims and to fulfil their duty to wage war: violent jihad. Jihad is a duty for every Muslim, Islam is to rule the world - by the sword. The Quran is clearly anti-Semitic, describing Jews as monkeys and pigs. The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. He advised on matters of slavery, but never advised to liberate slaves. Islam has no other morality than the advancement of Islam. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad. There is no gray area or other side. Quran as Allah's own word and Mohammed as the perfect man are the two most important facets of Islam. Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies. This is what you need to know about Islam, in order to understand what is going on in Europe. For millions of Muslims the Quran and the life of Mohammed are not 14 centuries old, but are an everyday reality, an ideal, that guide every aspect of their lives. Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. Which brings me to my movie, Fitna. I am a lawmaker, and not a movie maker. But I felt I had the moral duty to educate about Islam. The duty to make clear that the Quran stands at the heart of what some people call terrorism but is in reality jihad. I wanted to show that the problems of Islam are at the core of Islam, and do not belong to its fringes. Now, from the day the plan for my movie was made public, it caused quite a stir, in the Netherlands and throughout Europe. First, there was a political storm, with government leaders, across the continent in sheer panic. The Netherlands was put under a heightened terror alert, because of possible attacks or a revolt by our Muslim population. The Dutch branch of the Islamic organisation Hizb ut-Tahrir declared that the Netherlands was due for an attack. Internationally, there was a series of incidents. The Taliban threatened to organize additional attacks against Dutch troops in Afghanistan, and a website linked to Al Qaeda published the message that I ought to be killed, while various muftis in the Middle East stated that I would be responsible for all the bloodshed after the screening of the movie. In Afghanistan and Pakistan the Dutch flag was burned on several occasions. Dolls representing me were also burned. The Indonesian President announced that I will never be admitted into Indonesia again, while the UN Secretary General and the European Union issued cowardly statements in the same vein as those made by the Dutch Government. I could go on and on. It was an absolute disgrace, a sell-out. A plethora of legal troubles also followed, and have not ended yet. Currently the state of Jordan is litigating against me. Only last week there were renewed security agency reports about a heightened terror alert for the Netherlands because of Fitna. Now, I would like to say a few things about Israel. Because, very soon, we will get together in its capital. The best way for a politician in Europe to lose votes is to say something positive about Israel. The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I, however, will continue to speak up for Israel. I see defending Israel as a matter of principle. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz. Second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense. Samuel Huntington writes it so aptly: 'Islam has bloody borders'. Israel is located precisely on that border. This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia. Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War. The war against Israel is not a war against Israel. It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel, Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lie awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming. Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West. It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel, they can get everything. Therefore, it is not that the West has a stake in Israel. It is Israel. It is very difficult to be an optimist in the face of the growing Islamization of Europe. All the tides are against us. On all fronts we are losing. Demographically the momentum is with Islam. Muslim immigration is even a source of pride within ruling liberal parties. Academia, the arts, the media, trade unions, the churches, the business world, the entire political establishment have all converted to the suicidal theory of multiculturalism. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'. The entire establishment has sided with our enemy. Leftists, liberals and Christian-Democrats are now all in bed with Islam. This is the most painful thing to see: the betrayal by our elites. At this moment in Europe's history, our elites are supposed to lead us. To stand up for centuries of civilization. To defend our heritage. To honour our eternal Judeo-Christian values that made Europe what it is today. But there are very few signs of hope to be seen at the governmental level. Sarkozy, Merkel, Brown, Berlusconi; in private, they probably know how grave the situation is. But when the little red light goes on, they stare into the camera and tell us that Islam is a religion of peace, and we should all try to get along nicely and sing Kumbaya. They willingly participate in, what President Reagan so aptly called: 'the betrayal of our past, the squandering of our freedom.' If there is hope in Europe, it comes from the people, not from the elites. Change can only come from a grass-roots level. It has to come from the citizens themselves. Yet these patriots will have to take on the entire political, legal and media establishment. Over the past years there have been some small, but encouraging, signs of a rebirth of the original European spirit. Maybe the elites turn their backs on freedom, the public does not. In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat to our national identity. I don't think the public opinion in Holland is very different from other European countries. Patriotic parties that oppose jihad are growing, against all odds. My own party debuted two years ago, with five percent of the vote. Now it stands at ten percent in the polls. The same is true of all similarly-minded parties in Europe. They are fighting the liberal establishment, and are gaining footholds on the political arena, one voter at the time. Now, for the first time, these patriotic parties will come together and exchange experiences. It may be the start of something big. Something that might change the map of Europe for decades to come. It might also be Europe's last chance. See Page 2
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Page 2 This December a conference will take place in Jerusalem. Thanks to Professor Aryeh Eldad, a member of Knesset, we will be able to watch Fitna in the Knesset building and discuss the jihad. We are organizing this event in Israel to emphasize the fact that we are all in the same boat together, and that Israel is part of our common heritage. Those attending will be a select audience. No racist organizations will be allowed. And we will only admit parties that are solidly democratic. This conference will be the start of an Alliance of European patriots. This Alliance will serve as the backbone for all organizations and political parties that oppose jihad and Islamization. For this Alliance I seek your support. This endeavor may be crucial to America and to the West. America may hold fast to the dream that, thanks to its location, it is safe from jihad and shaira. But seven years ago to the day, there was still smoke rising from ground zero, following the attacks that forever shattered that dream. Yet there is an even greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem. Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply do not have the right to do so. This is not the first time our civilization is under threat. We have seen dangers before. We have been betrayed by our elites before. They have sided with our enemies before. And yet, then, freedom prevailed. These are not times in which to take lessons from appeasement, capitulation, giving away, giving up or giving in. These are not times in which to draw lessons from Mr. Chamberlain. These are times calling us to draw lessons from Mr. Churchill and the words he spoke in 1942: 'Never give in, never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy'." [source - speech by Geert Wilders, chairman of Party for Freedom, in the Netherlands] ISLAM DOES NOT WANT TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR ITS WRONGS: Before looking at the facts including who was responsible for the Crusades, First a definition of terms to assist the understanding of all. Cause = Something that brings about an effect or result [source - Webster New Collegiate Dictionary]. Effect = 1. To cause to come into being, 2. To bring about often by surmounting obstacles: accomplish, b. to put into effect. [source - Webster New Collegiate Dictionary]. Result = 1. Something that results as a consequence, issue, or conclusion, [from a cause or action] [source - Webster New Collegiate Dictionary]. Therefore a cause is something that gives rise to effects or results as a consequence. For example, if you light the fuse leading to sticks of dynamite the effect or consequence will be an explosion. How big or destructive the explosion depends on the placement of the dynamite. In an open field, the effect or consequences will be minimal, but in a crowded building the, the effect or consequences could be very significant. Now this simple principle of cause and effect - the consequences- is something Islam has never been able to understand since the days of Muhammad (pbuh). They have always assumed they can take actions against others, the cause, and that the effects or consequences should be trivial. Of course throughout history this has NOT proved to be the case. So what does Islam do? They try and blame others for the effects or consequences of their actions since they do NOT want to assume responsibility for them. But he/she who causes something, i.e., lights the fuse is totally responsible for all the effects and/or consequences of his/her actions. They do not understand they are responsible for what they cause, the effect or results, the consequences. We will now look at an early example in history on this. RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSEQUENCES OF MELICIOUSLY DESTROYING A CHURCH - THE CRUSADES: Most of Islam blames the apostate (counterfeit) Christians for the Crusades, but in reality Islam caused the Crusades which were the effect or result or consequences of a malicious wrong act by Fatimid Caliph al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah. How so? Well simple, in 1009 this Caliph sacked the pilgrimage hospice in Jerusalem and destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. It was later rebuilt by the Byzantine emperor, but this event was remembered in Europe and was the spark or cause for the crusades. Now let's look at what an encyclopedia says, <<<" This background in the Christian West must be matched with that in the Muslim East. Muslim presence in the Holy Land goes back to the initial Arab conquest of Palestine [[They stole land that did not belong to them from the Hebrews and others.]]in the 7th century. This did not interfere much with pilgrimage to Christian holy sites or the security of monasteries and Christian communities in the Holy Land of Christendom, and western Europeans were not much concerned with the loss of far-away Jerusalem when, in the ensuing decades and centuries, they were themselves faced with invasions by Muslims and other hostile non-Christians such as the Vikings and Magyars. However, the Muslim armies' successes were putting strong pressure on the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire.A turning point in western attitudes towards the east came in the year 1009, when the Fatimid caliph of Cairo, al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah, had the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem destroyed. His successor permitted the Byzantine Empire to rebuild it under stringent circumstances, and pilgrimage was again permitted, but many stories began to be circulated in the West about the cruelty of Muslims toward Christian pilgrims; these stories then played an important role in the development of the crusades later in the century. The immediate cause of the First Crusade was Alexius I's appeal to Pope Urban II for mercenaries to help him resist Muslim advances into territory of the Byzantine Empire. In 1071, at the Battle of Manzikert, the Byzantine Empire had been defeated, and this defeat led to the loss of all but the coastlands of Asia Minor (modern Turkey)[[Another land theft.]]. Although the East-West Schism was brewing between the Catholic Western church and the Greek Orthodox Eastern church, Alexius I expected some help from a fellow Christian. However, the response was much larger, and less helpful, than Alexius I desired, as the Pope called for a large invasion force to not merely defend the Byzantine Empire but also retake Jerusalem. When the First Crusade was preached in 1095, the Christian princes of northern Iberia had been fighting their way out of the mountains of Galicia and Asturias, the Basque Country and Navarre, with increasing success, for about a hundred years. The fall of Moorish Toledo to the Kingdom of León in 1085 was a major victory, but the turning points of the Reconquista still lay in the future. The disunity of the Muslim emirs was an essential factor, and the Christians, whose wives remained safely behind, were hard to beat: they knew nothing except fighting, they had no gardens or libraries to defend, and they worked their way forward through alien territory populated by infidels, where the Christian fighters felt they could afford to wreak havoc. All these factors were soon to be replayed in the fighting grounds of the East. Spanish historians have traditionally seen the Reconquista [[Retaking of lands that belonged to them.]] as the molding force in the Castilian character, with its sense that the highest good was to die fighting for the Christian cause of one's country. While the Reconquista was the most prominent example of Christian war against Muslim conquests, it is not the only such example. The Norman adventurer Robert Guiscard had conquered the "toe of Italy," Calabria, in 1057 and was holding what had traditionally been Byzantine territory against the Muslims of Sicily. The maritime states of Pisa, Genoa and Catalonia were all actively fighting Islamic strongholds in Majorca and Sardinia, freeing the coasts of Italy and Catalonia from Muslim raids. Much earlier, of course, the Christian homelands of Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt, and so on had been conquered by Muslim armies [[More land grabs by Islam that should be returned]]. This long history of losing territories to a religious enemy, as well as a powerful pincer movement on all of Western Europe, created a powerful motive to respond to Byzantine emperor Alexius I's call for holy war to defend Christendom, and to recapture the lost lands, starting at the most important one of all, Jerusalem itself.">> [source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]
So as can readily be seen, the actual cause of the Crusades was the land grabbing [[Stealing.]] by Islam from both the Hebrews and the apostate (counterfeit) Christians, and the final straw was the malicious sacking of the pilgrimage hospice in Jerusalem and the destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.
Interesting side note, the Hebrews when they retook some of their lands, the whole of Palestine really rightly being theirs, permitted the Al-Aqsa Mosque to remain on their former temple site showing a compassion very different than that exhibited by the land grabbing [[Stealing.]] members of Islam such as Fatimid Caliph al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah. Of course, as we all know, the land grabbers [[Stealers.]] hated the Hebrews for rightly wanting their land back that had been stolen from them centuries earlier by Islam. But of course they do NOT LIKE the effect or consequence of having to pay for their wrong act, the cause, land grabbing of others land, most notably that of the Hebrews.
THE ATTROCITY OF 9/11 SHOWS THEY DO NOT WANT TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITIES, THE CONSEQUENCES, FOR THEIR ACT, THE CAUSE:
Let's first look at the cause, a lighting of the proverbial fuse so to speak. <<" The September 11, 2001 attacks (often referred to as 9/11) consisted of a series of coordinated terrorist attacks upon the United States, predominantly targeting civilians, carried out on Tuesday, September 11, 2001.
That morning, 19 men affiliated with al-Qaeda[1] hijacked four commercial passenger jet airliners. Each team of hijackers included a trained pilot. Two planes crashed into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, one plane into each tower. Both towers collapsed within two hours. The pilot of the third team crashed a plane into the Pentagon in Arlington County, Virginia. Passengers and members of the flight crew on the fourth hijacked aircraft attempted to retake control of their plane from the hijackers; that plane crashed into a field in rural Somerset County, Pennsylvania. 2,976 people died in these attacks.
The attacks began with the hijacking of four commercial airliners departing from East Coast airports, fueled for flights to California. With jet fuel capacities of nearly 24,000 U.S. gallons (91,000 liters) or 144,000 pounds (65,455 kilograms),[2] each aircraft effectively became an incendiary guided missile (the same order applies for take-off, for hijacking, and for subsequent crash): * American Airlines Flight 11 crashed into the north side of the North Tower of the World Trade Center (WTC) at 8:46:30 a.m. local time (which was Eastern Daylight Time, or 12:46:30 UTC). * United Airlines Flight 175 crashed into the South Tower at 9:02:59 a.m. local time (13:02:59 UTC), an event covered live by television broadcasters from around the world who had their cameras trained on the buildings after the earlier crash. * American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon at 9:37:46 a.m. local time (13:37:46 UTC). * United Airlines Flight 93 crashed in a field in southwest Pennsylvania just outside of Shanksville, about 150 miles (240 km) northwest of Washington, D.C., at 10:03:11 a.m. local time (14:03:11 UTC), with parts and debris found up to eight miles away. The crash in Pennsylvania is believed to have resulted from the hijackers either deliberately crashing the aircraft or losing control of it as they fought with the passengers. [source - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia]
But as usual, much of Islam did NOT want to accept the responsibility for the effect or consequence. In fact, many Muslims came up with absurd conspiracy theories of one kind or another and tried to pin the blame for the cause on the Hebrews, how absurd, which of course amounts to untruth and false accusation. Many Muslims always try to pin the blame on others for what other Muslims cause, but not all. One group of honest Muslims admitted that evil Muslims were the cause and issued an apology, <<"We are so Sorry for 9-11, By Kamal Nawash in 2004, This September 11 marks the third unforgettable anniversary of the worst mass murder in American history.
After September 11, many in the Muslim world chose denial and hallucination rather than face up to the sad fact that Muslims perpetrated the 9-11 terrorist acts and that we have an enormous problem with extremism and support for terrorism. Many Muslims, including religious leaders, and ?intellectuals? blamed 9-11 on a Jewish conspiracy and went as far as fabricating a tale that 4000 Jews did not show up for work in the World Trade Center on 9-11. Yet others blamed 9-11 on an American right wing conspiracy or the U.S. Government which allegedly wanted an excuse to invade Iraq and ?steal? Iraqi oil.
After numerous admissions of guilt by Bin Laden and numerous corroborating admissions by captured top level Al-Qaida operatives, we wonder, does the Muslim leadership have the dignity and courage to apologize for 9-11? If not 9-11, will we apologize for the murder of school children in Russia? If not Russia, will we apologize for the train bombings in Madrid, Spain? If not Spain, will we apologize for suicide bombings in buses, restaurants and other public places? If not suicide bombings, will we apologize for the barbaric beheadings of human beings? If not beheadings, will we apologize for the rape and murder of thousands of innocent people in Darfour? If not Darfour, will we apologize for the blowing up of two Russian planes by Muslim women? What will we apologize for? What will it take for Muslims to realize that those who commit mass murder in the name of Islam are not just a few fringe elements? What will it take for Muslims to realize that we are facing a crisis that is more deadly than the Aids epidemic? What will it take for Muslims to realize that there is a large evil movement that is turning what was a peaceful religion into a cult?
Will Muslims wake up before it is too late? Or will we continue blaming the Jews and an imaginary Jewish conspiracy? The blaming of all Muslim problems on Jews is a cancer that is destroying Muslim society from within and it must stop.
Muslims must look inward and put a stop to many of our religious leaders who spend most of their sermons teaching hatred, intolerance and violent jihad. We should not be afraid to admit that as Muslims we have a problem with violent extremism. We should not be afraid to admit that so many of our religious leaders belong behind bars and not behind a pulpit. Only moderate Muslims can challenge and defeat extremist Muslims. We can no longer afford to be silent. If we remain silent to the extremism within our community then we should not expect anyone to listen to us when we complain of stereotyping and discrimination by non-Muslims; we should not be surprised when the world treats all of us as terrorists; we should not be surprised when we are profiled at airports. Simply put, not only do Muslims need to join the war against terror, we need to take the lead in this war.
As to apologizing, we will no longer wait for our religious leaders and ?intellectuals? to do the right thing. Instead, we will start by apologizing for 9-11. We are so sorry that 3000 people were murdered in our name. We will never forget the sight of people jumping from two of the highest buildings in the world hoping against hope that if they moved their arms fast enough that they may fly and survive a certain death from burning. We are sorry for blaming 9-11 on a Jewish or right wing conspiracy. We are so sorry for the murder of more than three hundred school children and adults in Russia. We are so sorry for the murder of train passengers in Spain. We are so sorry for all the victims of suicide bombings. We are so sorry for the beheadings, abductions, rapes, violent Jihad and all the atrocities committed by Muslims around the world. We are so sorry for a religious education that raised killers rather than train people to do good in the world. We are sorry that we did not take the time to teach our children tolerance and respect for other people. We are so sorry for not rising up against the dictators who have ruled the Muslim world for decades. We are so sorry for allowing corruption to spread so fast and so deep in the Muslim world that many of our youth lost hope. We are so sorry for allowing our religious leaders to relegate women to the status of forth class citizens at best and sub-humans at worse.
We are so sorry."[source - Free Muslim Coalition, www.freemuslims.org/news/article.php?article=148] >>. Truly says it all.
However, when the United States went after the terrorist, most of whom were hiding in Afghanistan, the government through their lot in with the evil group that caused the atrocious outrageous attack without any provocation. That act made them accessories after-the-fact and co-conspirators; therefore the United States along with many other governments had every right to go after Afghanistan which had by any definition become an outlaw state. They defeated the wicked regime, and now are attempting to set-up a democratic government there. This was the FIRST effect or consequence of the wicked cause or proverbial fuse, but it was NOT to be the last.
At about this same time, the government of Iraq, who had previously attacked their neighbors and was defeated in a war known as 'Desert Storm' reneged on letting inspectors continue to look for banned chemical, biological, and other weapons of mass destruction which was quite a reasonable thing given their earlier poison gassing of thousands of Kurds. This was the most inopportune time for their leader to take such a stance as the United States was in no mood, due to 9/11, to play such games, and had also received intelligence reports of questionable reliability that they were once more into such weapons of terror. Very reasonable to believe given their past actions. So the next effect and/or consequence of the proverbial fuse lit by 9/11 was an invasion of this rogue state by the United States and allies. It is to be noted, this would have been TOTALLY unnecessary if Islam collectively had stepped up to the plate and brought this rogue state in line as it should have, but as we all know, they failed to assume their responsibility to keep their 'brother' in line.
This failure by Islam forced the United States to play global policeman. Unfortunately when any nation and/or group of nations is forced in to the position of playing world policeman they are put into a position of darn if you do, darn if you do not; a real no win position. For their effort, Islam calls whatever they do a provocation; yet Islam fails to assume its own responsibility to do anything about the problems in its own backyard, but wants others to handle the thankless task. Why? They went others to spend their money to handle things they should handle, and so they have a "fall guy" to blame or point fingers at for anything that does not go to their liking and so they can falsely accuse the one playing world policeman at the moment.
Having to assume the unwelcome role of world policeman in this incident put the United States is a darn if you do, darn if you don't position, and of course false charges were hurled at them such as the following:
[1] False charge - supplying Saddam with chemical weapons - Which never occurred, but blame was put on the US. The truth is that Saddam Hussein procured the ingredients clandestinely and likewise procured the equipment necessary clandestinely also, and when Europe and the US learned of it they took action against the suppliers, most of which had been duped without knowledge by the Muslim Saddam Hussein. As can be seen, Islam called this a provocation by the US and others when in reality it was a provocation by one of their own which they failed to take action against, yet some of Islam use this as justification to attack others, absolutely absurd!
Even more absurd is that all the nations that are predominately Islamic full well knew that Saddam Hussein had chemical weapons and was using them on Muslim Kurds and sat inactive like three blind monkeys, know no evil, see no evil, hear no evil. To wit, they took no action when they should have as it was in their court, but wanted others to play world cop so they incurred no expense and so they had someone to blame for anything they did not like. How absurd!
[2] Blame of others for taking action due to their failure to do so - Iraqi Sanctions. Europe and the US took up the role of world policeman, since Islam had failed to accept their responsibility and step up to the plate, and imposed sanctions do to Islam's failure to accept its responsibility and put an end to wrong doing by Saddam Hussein. What was Islam's response, they blamed those who stepped up to the plate due to Islam's failure to assume its responsibility; SOP for most Islamic nations. They even had the nerve to call sanctions a provocation so once more darn if you do, darn if you do not.
[3] Blame for assisting a friend trying to modernize his country - Shah of Iran. Yes, the Us and Europe tried to assist the Shaw of Iran, and why not? He was trying to modernize his nation and bestow greater freedom on its citizens, but their efforts failed and a radical regime came into power that stopped the modernization process and removed almost all freedoms and any concept of real justice. Let's look at an actual case taken from the Internet,
Speaks for itself with respect lack of freedom.
THE ISRAEL-LEBONESE UNFORTUNATE SITUATION - THE CAUSE:
FIRST, The CAUSE or proverbial fuse was lit by the criminal organization of Hezbollah, without provocation, they committed an attack on Israel. The fact has been clearly shown in the world news as follows, <<"
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