Post by iris89 on Apr 16, 2006 16:43:56 GMT -5
Proof That The Quran is Nothing But A Distorted Bible Knockoff As Provided by A Muslim:
INTRODUCTION:
One Muslim [Sunni] said, "Islam in the Bible" trying to wrongly use the Bible to prove a false religious belief which does NOT in reality recognize the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, but in reality worships the old middle eastern celestial Moon god. Let's briefly look at some data that proves this.
CLAIMED BIBLE VERSES FOR ISLAM BEING IN THE BIBLE:
One Muslim claimed that Islam is in the Bible, based on the following,
Without realizing it he just gave proof positive that the Quran is nothing but a distorted knockoff of the Bible.
CONCLUSION:
Any religion that must use a knockoff of the Bible or any other book is obviously barking up the wrong tree, and need NOT be given serious consideration. Why? The simple fact that they use a distorted knockoff of a book divinely inspired by the true God (YHWH) of Abraham clearly shows their book is NOT inspired.
Now let's consider what a divinely inspired book is. First, the Bible is NOT the product of one committee or strongman. It has over 40 individual writers who wrote under divine inspiration/guidance putting the thoughts of God (YHWH) into the words of men much as transcribing secretaries today taking transcription and then later typing it out. In other words one real author, God (YHWH), and many scribes each of whom wrote in his own style over a period of approximately 1,600 years. All of what people call or consider inconsistencies are really not such, but most often just a problem of translation and/or understanding, i.e., lack of understanding of what the original writer writing in his own language and culture meant/said in his original writing. What is remarkable, is the writers over such a period of time all wrote in harmony when even most posters on threads on this forum can not even stay on track or subject over a period of a few days and/or weeks at most with the original subject of the thread. This fact of harmony over a period so great as to almost stagger the imagination shows that it had one guiding force or author who divinely inspired its writers as humans of their own volition can not keep on track over short periods of time.
Second, To wit, the Bible is the ONLY book God (YHWH) ever inspired men to write as his scribes. In other words, God is its author and men only put his thoughts given to them by divine inspiration into their own words, the words of men. Not only that, all the other writers of later so called religious guidance books borrowed from it and made changes in accord with their strong man or so called prophet. Take the example of Joseph Smith who borrowed from it to write the Book of Mormon, but failed to give credit or source to the Bible and twisted some borrowed things into bizarre distortions. Other examples are of course the bizarre writings of David Koresh the Prophet of the Branch Dividians of Waco, Texas; and the Quran, etc.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89
INTRODUCTION:
One Muslim [Sunni] said, "Islam in the Bible" trying to wrongly use the Bible to prove a false religious belief which does NOT in reality recognize the true God (YHWH) of Abraham, but in reality worships the old middle eastern celestial Moon god. Let's briefly look at some data that proves this.
There exist many false gods which are figments of the imagination and some of these such as Molech, Ashtoreth, Baal, Dagon Merodach, Zeus, Hermes, Artemis, etc. are mentioned in the Bible. Let's look at a few instances, Leviticus 18:21, "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD." (AV); Judges 2:13, "And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth." (AV); Judges 16:23, "Then the lords of the Philistines gathered them together for to offer a great sacrifice unto Dagon their god, and to rejoice: for they said, Our god hath delivered Samson our enemy into our hand." (AV); Jeremiah 50:2, "Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces." (AV); Acts 14:12, "And they called Barnabas, Jupiter; and Paul, Mercurius, because he was the chief speaker." (AV). Some of these gods exist until today, usually under new names.
The old middle eastern Moon god who has gone by many names is still well venerated. This is shown by "The Archeology of The Middle East" which states, "The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.
Archaeologists have uncovered temples to the Moon-god throughout the Middle East. From the mountains of Turkey to the banks of the Nile, the most wide-spread religion of the ancient world was the worship of the Moon-god. In the first literate civilization, the Sumerians have left us thousands of clay tablets in which they described their religious beliefs. As demonstrated by Sjoberg and Hall, the ancient Sumerians worshipped a Moon-god who was called many different names. The most popular names were Nanna, Suen and Asimbabbar. His symbol was the crescent moon. Given the amount of artifacts concerning the worship of this Moon-god, it is clear that this was the dominant religion in Sumeria. The cult of the Moon-god was the most popular religion throughout ancient Mesopotamia. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and the Akkadians took the word Suen and transformed it into the word Sin as their favorite name for the Moon-god. As Prof. Potts pointed out, "Sin is a name essentially Sumerian in origin which had been borrowed by the Semites." [source - The Archeology of the Middle East]"[additional references - "South Arabia's stellar religion has always been dominated by the Moon-god in various variations" (Berta Segall, The Iconography of Cosmic Kingship, the Art Bulletin, vol.xxxviii, 1956, p.77).; Isaac Rabinowitz, Aramaic Inscriptions of the Fifth Century, JNES, XV, 1956, pp.1-9; Edward Linski, The Goddess Atirat in Ancient Arabia, in Babylon and in Ugarit: Her Relation to the Moon-god and the Sun-goddess, Orientalia Lovaniensia Periodica, 3:101-9; H.J.Drivers, Iconography and Character of the Arab Goddess Allat, found in Études Preliminaries Aux Religions Orientales Dans L'Empire Roman, ed. Maarten J. Verseren, Leiden, Brill, 1978, pp.331-51); Richard Le Baron Bower Jr. and Frank P. Albright, Archaeological Discoveries in South Arabia, Baltimore, John Hopkins University Press, 1958, p.78ff; Ray Cleveland, An Ancient South Arabian Necropolis, Baltimore, John Hopkins University Press, 1965; Nelson Gleuck, Deities and Dolphins, New York, Farrar, Strauss and Giroux, 1965).; Another Aramaic Record of the North Arabian goddess Han'Llat, JNES, XVIII, 1959, pp.154-55.[source - There Is Only One True God by Iris the Preacher 2006 - entire text can be read on this forum at,
forum.finalummah.com/index.php?showtopic=1185&pid=5473&st=0&#entry5473 ]
The old middle eastern Moon god who has gone by many names is still well venerated. This is shown by "The Archeology of The Middle East" which states, "The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology. We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals. This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah. As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity. In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.
Archaeologists have uncovered temples to the Moon-god throughout the Middle East. From the mountains of Turkey to the banks of the Nile, the most wide-spread religion of the ancient world was the worship of the Moon-god. In the first literate civilization, the Sumerians have left us thousands of clay tablets in which they described their religious beliefs. As demonstrated by Sjoberg and Hall, the ancient Sumerians worshipped a Moon-god who was called many different names. The most popular names were Nanna, Suen and Asimbabbar. His symbol was the crescent moon. Given the amount of artifacts concerning the worship of this Moon-god, it is clear that this was the dominant religion in Sumeria. The cult of the Moon-god was the most popular religion throughout ancient Mesopotamia. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and the Akkadians took the word Suen and transformed it into the word Sin as their favorite name for the Moon-god. As Prof. Potts pointed out, "Sin is a name essentially Sumerian in origin which had been borrowed by the Semites." [source - The Archeology of the Middle East]"[additional references - "South Arabia's stellar religion has always been dominated by the Moon-god in various variations" (Berta Segall, The Iconography of Cosmic Kingship, the Art Bulletin, vol.xxxviii, 1956, p.77).; Isaac Rabinowitz, Aramaic Inscriptions of the Fifth Century, JNES, XV, 1956, pp.1-9; Edward Linski, The Goddess Atirat in Ancient Arabia, in Babylon and in Ugarit: Her Relation to the Moon-god and the Sun-goddess, Orientalia Lovaniensia Periodica, 3:101-9; H.J.Drivers, Iconography and Character of the Arab Goddess Allat, found in Études Preliminaries Aux Religions Orientales Dans L'Empire Roman, ed. Maarten J. Verseren, Leiden, Brill, 1978, pp.331-51); Richard Le Baron Bower Jr. and Frank P. Albright, Archaeological Discoveries in South Arabia, Baltimore, John Hopkins University Press, 1958, p.78ff; Ray Cleveland, An Ancient South Arabian Necropolis, Baltimore, John Hopkins University Press, 1965; Nelson Gleuck, Deities and Dolphins, New York, Farrar, Strauss and Giroux, 1965).; Another Aramaic Record of the North Arabian goddess Han'Llat, JNES, XVIII, 1959, pp.154-55.[source - There Is Only One True God by Iris the Preacher 2006 - entire text can be read on this forum at,
forum.finalummah.com/index.php?showtopic=1185&pid=5473&st=0&#entry5473 ]
CLAIMED BIBLE VERSES FOR ISLAM BEING IN THE BIBLE:
One Muslim claimed that Islam is in the Bible, based on the following,
Prayer: gen 17:3, deut 5:9, 9:25, rev 7:11, matt 26:39, 1 kings 18:42, dan
10:15, num 16:22, 20:6, psalms 95:6, judges 13:20, lamentations 2:10. For a
deeper explanation of these passages see Prayer in the Bible.
Covenant: gen 17:20, 21:17-20(well of Zam-zam), 25:12-16(Kedar), deut
21:15-17, gen 12:2-3 (before Abraham has children), gen 17:11-14
(circumcision), gen 17:23-27 (Ishmael is circumcised), gen 16:3 (Hagar, a
legitimate wife), luke 2:21-22 (Jesus is circumcised)
Covenant taken away from Judah: gen 49:10, matt 21:42-43, jer 31:36, isaiah
11:1-2, matthew 21:19 (fig tree), isaiah 65
Ablution/Wu'du: ex 29:4, 30:18-21, 40:12, 30-32, john 2:6, lev 8:6, psalms
51:2, Qur'an 4:43, 5:6
Prohibition of pork: lev 11:7, deut 14:8, john 15:10(Jesus kept God's
commandments), matt 5:17-18, 7:6, 8:30-32, mark 5:11-15, isaiah 66:3, 17,
proverbs 11:22, luke 8:32-34, isaiah 65:3-4
Qur'an 2:172-173, 5:3, 6:145-146, 16:114-115
Alcohol not holy: num 6:3, judg 13:4-7, ephes 5:15-18, hosea 4:11, 7:5, isaiah
19:14, 28:7-8, proverbs 23:29-35, Qur'an 2:219, 5:90
Christmas trees?!: jer 10:2-5
One God: deut 5:7, 6:4, 4:35, 4:39, matt 23:9, isaiah 43:10-11, 44:6, 45:18,
hosea 13:4, 2 sam 7:22, psalm 86:8, 89:6, 113:5, mark 12:29, zach 14:9, 1
chron 17:20.
Though the Bible affirms and demands the belief in the The Oneness of God, the
Qur'an actually goes more in depth into exactly what One God means. In fact,
it does so in such a manner that you may even begin to question your own
concept of One God.
Original sin: ezek 18:20-21, deut 24:16, jer 31:30, matt 7:1-2, 18:3,
19:14(children w/o sin), 1 corin 3:8, 14:20
Backbiting: lev 19:16, proverbs 11:13, 16:28, 17:9, 20:19, 26:20
CruciFICTION: matt 16:20(Jesus fears for his life), john 11:53-54, 12:36,
18:1-2, mark 13:46(God's will not Jesus'), john 11:42(God always hears Jesus'
prayers), mark 11:24, matt 7:9-10(prayers answered), psalms 22:16, 22:24,
34:19-20, 18:6, 66:18-20, john 19:23, 19:36(psalms applied to Jesus), jer
29:13, job 22:27, john 9:31(prayers of the righteous are heard), hebrews
5:7(saved from death), matt 27:52-53(only place this is mentioned), matt
12:39-40(sign of Jonah),What was the Sign of Jonah?, matt 27:19(Pilate's
wife's dream), matt 2:13(Jesus saved from Herod through a dream)
Qur'an 3:55-58, 4:157-159
Muhammad: deut 18:15-22(like Moses), 33:2(Sinai, Seir, Paran), isaiah
21:13-17(pomp of Kedar), chapter 42, john 1:19-21, 1:24-25(three prophesies),
john 14:15-17, 15:26, 16:7-14(Counselor), gen 21:19 (well of Zam-zam), jer
28:9 (Prophet brings 'peace'....Jesus didn't....see luke 12:51-53 & matt
10:34-36), habakkuk 3:3(Holy One from Mt Paran), john 13:20, luke 7:28, isaiah
60:1-11, 28:9-13, song of solomon 5:10-16
For more detailed expressions of the prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon
him) please go to:
Prophet Muhammad in the Bible
Did Jesus and Isaiah Prophecy the Coming of Muhammad?
Qur'an 46:10 (foretold by Moses), 61:6 (foretold by Jesus), 7:157, 53:3-4
(does not speak on his own)
Jesus sent only to Israel: matt 15:24, 1:21, 5:17-18(not to change law), matt
28:19 (teach nations...tribes of Israel), mark 16:9-20(omitted in later
versions as an addition), matt 10:5-6, luke 15:6, Qur'an 3:49-51
Jesus worshipped wrongfully: matt 15:9, isaiah 43:10-11, Qur'an 5:17, 72
Jesus prayed (Does God need to pray?): matt 26:39, 26:36, luke 5:16, 22:44,
hebrews 5:7
Jesus tempted by Satan: luke 4:1-13.......but James 1:13 says that God cannot
be tempted
Confusion: 1 corin 14:33
Paul admits uniqueness: 2 tim 2:8
Jesus denies Divinity: mark 9:37, 10:18, 15:34, matt 10:40, 15:24, 26:39, john
8:39-40, 14:28, 15:10, Qur'an 19:88-92
Other people's miracles: 2 kings 4:7, 4:44, 1 kings 17:6, [2 kings 5:14 (heals
a leper)], [2 kings 6:17, 6:20, 6:18 (blindness)], [1 kings 17:22, 2 kings
4:34, 13:21 (raising the dead)], Even Jesus' enemies performed
miracles.....matt 12:27, luke 11:19....false prophets in matt 24:24
Other "sons of God": ex 4:22, 2 sam 7:13-14, 1 chron 22:10, deut 14:1, jer
31:9, romans 8:29, psalm 2:7, matt 5:45, 5:48, 2 corin 6:18, hebrews 7:3, luke
3:38, 4:41(Jesus is called 'son of God' by devils and demands to be called the
son of man), 1 corin 3:16, hosea 1:10, Sons of God
Qur'an 9:30
Jesus as teacher, servant, and prophet: john 3:2, 6:14, 7:40, 9:17, matt
12:18, 13:57, 21:11, luke 7:16, 24:19, acts 3:13, 4:27.
Qur'an 4:171, 5:75, 6:85, 43:59, 63-64
Pray in secret: matt 6:5
Zakat/sadaqa: matt 6:4, proverbs 3:27, Qur'an 2:110, 177, 195, 215, 219, 254,
261-274, 3:134, 14:31, 57:7-11, 18, 63:10, 64:16-17
Crucifixion an accursed death: deut 21:23, galatians 3:13
Racism Qur'an 2:213, 10:19, 30:22
Hijab: 1 corin 11:5-6,13, genesis 24:65, isaiah 3:23, ruth 3:15
Asalaamu Alaikum: gen 43:23, judges 6:23, 1 sam 1:17, 25:6, luke 24:36, john
20:19, 20:26, luke 10:5, daniel 10:19
Polygyny: deut 21:15, 2 sam 5:13, 1 kings 11:3, song of sol 6:8-9, gen 4:19,
16:1-3, 25:1, 30:1-4, 36:2-10, dan 5:2, 1 sam 1:2, 1 chron 4:5, 8:8, 2 chron
11:21, Who Practices Polygamy?
Dress: (diff for men and women): deut 22:5
Conflicts with science: 1 kings 7:23, 2 chron 4:2 (the # pi), gen 1:1-4 (order
of creation)...I am not done compiling these verses. If God is the Creator,
then He must have knowledge of creation. Simply put, if something conflicts
with well-established facts, then it is not from God. The Qur'an not only
agrees with well-known scientific fact, it actually describes newly discovered
phenomena.
10:15, num 16:22, 20:6, psalms 95:6, judges 13:20, lamentations 2:10. For a
deeper explanation of these passages see Prayer in the Bible.
Covenant: gen 17:20, 21:17-20(well of Zam-zam), 25:12-16(Kedar), deut
21:15-17, gen 12:2-3 (before Abraham has children), gen 17:11-14
(circumcision), gen 17:23-27 (Ishmael is circumcised), gen 16:3 (Hagar, a
legitimate wife), luke 2:21-22 (Jesus is circumcised)
Covenant taken away from Judah: gen 49:10, matt 21:42-43, jer 31:36, isaiah
11:1-2, matthew 21:19 (fig tree), isaiah 65
Ablution/Wu'du: ex 29:4, 30:18-21, 40:12, 30-32, john 2:6, lev 8:6, psalms
51:2, Qur'an 4:43, 5:6
Prohibition of pork: lev 11:7, deut 14:8, john 15:10(Jesus kept God's
commandments), matt 5:17-18, 7:6, 8:30-32, mark 5:11-15, isaiah 66:3, 17,
proverbs 11:22, luke 8:32-34, isaiah 65:3-4
Qur'an 2:172-173, 5:3, 6:145-146, 16:114-115
Alcohol not holy: num 6:3, judg 13:4-7, ephes 5:15-18, hosea 4:11, 7:5, isaiah
19:14, 28:7-8, proverbs 23:29-35, Qur'an 2:219, 5:90
Christmas trees?!: jer 10:2-5
One God: deut 5:7, 6:4, 4:35, 4:39, matt 23:9, isaiah 43:10-11, 44:6, 45:18,
hosea 13:4, 2 sam 7:22, psalm 86:8, 89:6, 113:5, mark 12:29, zach 14:9, 1
chron 17:20.
Though the Bible affirms and demands the belief in the The Oneness of God, the
Qur'an actually goes more in depth into exactly what One God means. In fact,
it does so in such a manner that you may even begin to question your own
concept of One God.
Original sin: ezek 18:20-21, deut 24:16, jer 31:30, matt 7:1-2, 18:3,
19:14(children w/o sin), 1 corin 3:8, 14:20
Backbiting: lev 19:16, proverbs 11:13, 16:28, 17:9, 20:19, 26:20
CruciFICTION: matt 16:20(Jesus fears for his life), john 11:53-54, 12:36,
18:1-2, mark 13:46(God's will not Jesus'), john 11:42(God always hears Jesus'
prayers), mark 11:24, matt 7:9-10(prayers answered), psalms 22:16, 22:24,
34:19-20, 18:6, 66:18-20, john 19:23, 19:36(psalms applied to Jesus), jer
29:13, job 22:27, john 9:31(prayers of the righteous are heard), hebrews
5:7(saved from death), matt 27:52-53(only place this is mentioned), matt
12:39-40(sign of Jonah),What was the Sign of Jonah?, matt 27:19(Pilate's
wife's dream), matt 2:13(Jesus saved from Herod through a dream)
Qur'an 3:55-58, 4:157-159
Muhammad: deut 18:15-22(like Moses), 33:2(Sinai, Seir, Paran), isaiah
21:13-17(pomp of Kedar), chapter 42, john 1:19-21, 1:24-25(three prophesies),
john 14:15-17, 15:26, 16:7-14(Counselor), gen 21:19 (well of Zam-zam), jer
28:9 (Prophet brings 'peace'....Jesus didn't....see luke 12:51-53 & matt
10:34-36), habakkuk 3:3(Holy One from Mt Paran), john 13:20, luke 7:28, isaiah
60:1-11, 28:9-13, song of solomon 5:10-16
For more detailed expressions of the prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon
him) please go to:
Prophet Muhammad in the Bible
Did Jesus and Isaiah Prophecy the Coming of Muhammad?
Qur'an 46:10 (foretold by Moses), 61:6 (foretold by Jesus), 7:157, 53:3-4
(does not speak on his own)
Jesus sent only to Israel: matt 15:24, 1:21, 5:17-18(not to change law), matt
28:19 (teach nations...tribes of Israel), mark 16:9-20(omitted in later
versions as an addition), matt 10:5-6, luke 15:6, Qur'an 3:49-51
Jesus worshipped wrongfully: matt 15:9, isaiah 43:10-11, Qur'an 5:17, 72
Jesus prayed (Does God need to pray?): matt 26:39, 26:36, luke 5:16, 22:44,
hebrews 5:7
Jesus tempted by Satan: luke 4:1-13.......but James 1:13 says that God cannot
be tempted
Confusion: 1 corin 14:33
Paul admits uniqueness: 2 tim 2:8
Jesus denies Divinity: mark 9:37, 10:18, 15:34, matt 10:40, 15:24, 26:39, john
8:39-40, 14:28, 15:10, Qur'an 19:88-92
Other people's miracles: 2 kings 4:7, 4:44, 1 kings 17:6, [2 kings 5:14 (heals
a leper)], [2 kings 6:17, 6:20, 6:18 (blindness)], [1 kings 17:22, 2 kings
4:34, 13:21 (raising the dead)], Even Jesus' enemies performed
miracles.....matt 12:27, luke 11:19....false prophets in matt 24:24
Other "sons of God": ex 4:22, 2 sam 7:13-14, 1 chron 22:10, deut 14:1, jer
31:9, romans 8:29, psalm 2:7, matt 5:45, 5:48, 2 corin 6:18, hebrews 7:3, luke
3:38, 4:41(Jesus is called 'son of God' by devils and demands to be called the
son of man), 1 corin 3:16, hosea 1:10, Sons of God
Qur'an 9:30
Jesus as teacher, servant, and prophet: john 3:2, 6:14, 7:40, 9:17, matt
12:18, 13:57, 21:11, luke 7:16, 24:19, acts 3:13, 4:27.
Qur'an 4:171, 5:75, 6:85, 43:59, 63-64
Pray in secret: matt 6:5
Zakat/sadaqa: matt 6:4, proverbs 3:27, Qur'an 2:110, 177, 195, 215, 219, 254,
261-274, 3:134, 14:31, 57:7-11, 18, 63:10, 64:16-17
Crucifixion an accursed death: deut 21:23, galatians 3:13
Racism Qur'an 2:213, 10:19, 30:22
Hijab: 1 corin 11:5-6,13, genesis 24:65, isaiah 3:23, ruth 3:15
Asalaamu Alaikum: gen 43:23, judges 6:23, 1 sam 1:17, 25:6, luke 24:36, john
20:19, 20:26, luke 10:5, daniel 10:19
Polygyny: deut 21:15, 2 sam 5:13, 1 kings 11:3, song of sol 6:8-9, gen 4:19,
16:1-3, 25:1, 30:1-4, 36:2-10, dan 5:2, 1 sam 1:2, 1 chron 4:5, 8:8, 2 chron
11:21, Who Practices Polygamy?
Dress: (diff for men and women): deut 22:5
Conflicts with science: 1 kings 7:23, 2 chron 4:2 (the # pi), gen 1:1-4 (order
of creation)...I am not done compiling these verses. If God is the Creator,
then He must have knowledge of creation. Simply put, if something conflicts
with well-established facts, then it is not from God. The Qur'an not only
agrees with well-known scientific fact, it actually describes newly discovered
phenomena.
Without realizing it he just gave proof positive that the Quran is nothing but a distorted knockoff of the Bible.
CONCLUSION:
Any religion that must use a knockoff of the Bible or any other book is obviously barking up the wrong tree, and need NOT be given serious consideration. Why? The simple fact that they use a distorted knockoff of a book divinely inspired by the true God (YHWH) of Abraham clearly shows their book is NOT inspired.
Now let's consider what a divinely inspired book is. First, the Bible is NOT the product of one committee or strongman. It has over 40 individual writers who wrote under divine inspiration/guidance putting the thoughts of God (YHWH) into the words of men much as transcribing secretaries today taking transcription and then later typing it out. In other words one real author, God (YHWH), and many scribes each of whom wrote in his own style over a period of approximately 1,600 years. All of what people call or consider inconsistencies are really not such, but most often just a problem of translation and/or understanding, i.e., lack of understanding of what the original writer writing in his own language and culture meant/said in his original writing. What is remarkable, is the writers over such a period of time all wrote in harmony when even most posters on threads on this forum can not even stay on track or subject over a period of a few days and/or weeks at most with the original subject of the thread. This fact of harmony over a period so great as to almost stagger the imagination shows that it had one guiding force or author who divinely inspired its writers as humans of their own volition can not keep on track over short periods of time.
Second, To wit, the Bible is the ONLY book God (YHWH) ever inspired men to write as his scribes. In other words, God is its author and men only put his thoughts given to them by divine inspiration into their own words, the words of men. Not only that, all the other writers of later so called religious guidance books borrowed from it and made changes in accord with their strong man or so called prophet. Take the example of Joseph Smith who borrowed from it to write the Book of Mormon, but failed to give credit or source to the Bible and twisted some borrowed things into bizarre distortions. Other examples are of course the bizarre writings of David Koresh the Prophet of the Branch Dividians of Waco, Texas; and the Quran, etc.
Your Friend in Christ Iris89